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View Full Version : TFH-Sudan
Ghassan Kanafani 12-27-03, 10:48 AM Wo ho te sen :D
For the last 10 years an ethnic onslought has taken place against the original Black people of Sudan (Dinka, Nuer etc) , millions have been massacred and enslaved by the supremacist Arab government in Khartoum, Colin Powell rightfully calls this disasterous war the worst human rights nightmare on the planet .
The supremacist Arab government militia's and it's allies storm into villages murder all men gang rape all woman and distribute the children amongst them as a bonus.
In addition to the monstrous ethnic slaughtering comitted by the Arabs and the actual enslavement of Black people tens of thousands have been ethnically cleansed and over a hundred thousand forcibly starved.
And while arguments exchange about oil-wars in the middle east, nobody notices the oil-wealth of South-Sudan that the Northern Arabs murder for, as if Arabs have no enough oil as it is allready.
It is obvious that the original people of Sudan have suffered from this supremacist culture with its barbaric strive for material enrichment long enough, not only should the South become an independant nation of the Christians and original religions, entire Sudan should be liberated from Arabic imperialism and it's supremacist imposing on the Black people of Sudan. Sudan should do to them what Mugabe does to the Whites.
Me da wo ase :D
Undecided 12-27-03, 01:07 PM Just a reference:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/images/sudan.gif
Where the oil is located:
http://energy.er.usgs.gov/products/papers/World_oil/maps/oil/africa/africa_oil_basin_map_05.GIF
*the brown, I know the map sucks because it doesn't show all of Sudan, brown means btwn 1-10 billion barrels*
Oil production
(Thousand Barrels per Day)
1980: 0
1996: 2
2001:209
Oil - proved reserves:
631.5 million bbl
GDP:
purchasing power parity - $52.9 billion (2002 est.)
GDP - real growth rate:
5.1% (2002 est.)
GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $1,400 (2002 est.)
FDI Inward Stock (millions of dollars):
1980:28
1985:76
1990:54
1995:164
2002:2,651
(notice the increase once the discovery of oil in the south).
Where does Sudanese oil go?
2002 (Sudanese imports, millions of dollars)
European Union: 176
United States and Canada: 2
Japan:168
East Asia:1,096
China is a large investor in Sudan.
Exports:
$1.8 billion f.o.b. (2002 est.)
Exports - partners:
China 55.7%, Japan 14%, Saudi Arabia 4.9% (2002)
Total debt service(as % of exports of
goods and services) :3.2%
HDI trends:
1975:0.351
1980:0.378
1985:0.399
1990:0.431
1995:0.465
2001:0.503
Sudan #138 (I know value judgement)
Children under weight for age(% under age 5):17%
Undernourished people(as % of total population): 21% (down from 31% in 1990)
Youth literacy rate(% age 15-24):78.1%
Public expenditure on health(as % of GDP):1.0%
Military expenditure(as % of GDP):3.0%
Total debt service(as % of GDP):0.4%
Refugees :
By country of asylum(thousands)2001:349
By country of origin(thousands) 2001:490
Total armed forces:
Thousands 2001:117
Index (1985 = 100)2001: 207 (whoa)
Military spending: $600 million (2001)
http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/northafrica/mahdiyya.gif
Historical map pre-western imperialism.
Population of Sudan ((000 at mid-year):
1950:8,051 (Empire)
1956:9,490 (Independance)
1970:13,788
1980:19,064
1985:23,454
1990:26,627
1995:30,567
2003:38,114
2015:41.400
Ethnic groups:
black 52%, Arab 39%, Beja 6%, foreigners 2%, other 1%
Religions:
Sunni Muslim 70% (in north), indigenous beliefs 25%, Christian 5% (mostly in south and Khartoum)
thefountainhed 12-28-03, 01:55 PM As should be expected, the opposing viewpoint.
Ghassan:
For the last 10 years an ethnic onslought has taken place against the original Black people of Sudan (Dinka, Nuer etc) ,
References please…
millions have been massacred and enslaved by the supremacist Arab government in Khartoum, Colin Powell rightfully calls this disasterous war the worst human rights nightmare on the planet .
References please...
The supremacist Arab government militia's and it's allies storm into villages murder all men gang rape all woman and distribute the children amongst them as a bonus.
References please...
In addition to the monstrous ethnic slaughtering comitted by the Arabs and the actual enslavement of Black people tens of thousands have been ethnically cleansed and over a hundred thousand forcibly starved.
References please
And while arguments exchange about oil-wars in the middle east, nobody notices the oil-wealth of South-Sudan that the Northern Arabs murder for, as if Arabs have no enough oil as it is allready.
This statement shall be ignored, as it is irrelevant to the argument in the manner that it is phrased.
not only should the South become an independant nation of the Christians and original religions, entire Sudan should be liberated from Arabic imperialism and it's supremacist imposing on the Black people of Sudan.
As it stands, "original" or not, all the current peoples of Sudan are Sudanese. Also, the Muslim element represents the majority of the populace and inhabits the prosperous regions of the country.
Sudan has been embroiled in civil war for it's entire modern history, and both parties have practiced brutality.
In addition, how do you propose the country gets divided? Next, how exactly do you classify these "original" people of Sudan?
While it is true that the cycle of violence needs to stop, it is untrue that the Christians should be given power simply because of the atrocities committed them, or your "original" peoples theory. Also, one must always take into considerations how the modern territory of the Sudan came to being. Taken into effect, your "original" peoples theory is false. Besides, were the Christians in power and minds unchanged, they would seek vengeance against the Muslims.
Sudan should do to them what Mugabe does to the Whites.
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menso, me da wo ase:D
Not what I expected Ghassan.
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