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The Flemster
05-05-04, 05:21 AM
Can anyone tell me what was the first commercial film to contain the word 'Shit'?

How about 'Fuck'?

And what about the dreaded 'Cunt'?

The Flemster.
:bugeye:

Closet Philosopher
05-05-04, 01:00 PM
I'll try to find out. You have made me curious now.

Rappaccini
05-05-04, 11:07 PM
South Park commercials are the only ones I've seen to have "shit" and "fuck" in them.

Dr Lou Natic
05-06-04, 12:19 AM
He means commercial film, not commercials. At least I think thats what he means.
They said 'cunt' in out of africa. That guy was teaching merryl streep how to drive and he says 'keep your hands on the wheel, cunt' and then merryl streep says the titular line - 'I just can't wait to get out of africa'
Really powerful moment in the film :D

Oxygen
05-06-04, 01:01 AM
Didn't everybody have shit-fits when Clark Gable said "I don't give a damn" in Gone With the Wind? If my info is correct, then we'll have to start looking some time after that.

Oxygen
05-06-04, 01:07 AM
Hey, look what I found...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck

The films Ulysses and I'll Never Forget What's'isname (both 1967) are contenders for being the first film to use the word. Since the U.S. adoption of the MPAA film rating system, use of the word has been accepted in R-rated movies. (A single, strictly exclamatory use of the word is allowed in PG-13 movies.) Since the 1970s, the use of the word fuck in R-rated movies has become so commonplace in mainstream American movies that it is rarely noticed by most audiences. Nonetheless, a few movies have made exceptional use of the word, to the point where such films as Scarface (1983), Pulp Fiction and Goodfellas are known for its extensive use. In the popular comedy Four Weddings and a Funeral, it is the chief word, repeatedly uttered, during the opening five minutes. In two PG-rated movies, however, the word is used, mainly because at the time there was no PG-13 rating and the MPAA did not want to give the films "R" ratings: All the President's Men (1976), where it is used seven times, and The Right Stuff (1983), where it is used five times.

Oxygen
05-06-04, 01:15 AM
And here...After the first use of 'cunt' on live television in 1970, the word's first cinematic outing came the following year, in Carnal Knowledge, when Jack Nicholson called Ann-Margaret a "ball-busting, castrating, son-of-a-cunt bitch" (Mike Nichols, 1971). Reviewing the film on its initial release, Julian Jebb noted "the explicitness of the dialogue" (1971), and Leslie Halliwell's Film Guide reminds us that the film is "conscious of its own daring in subject and language" (Leslie Halliwell, 1977).

top mosker
05-06-04, 02:41 AM
They're just a combination of letters.

It's what you'd call 'making a mountain out of a mole hill.'

The Flemster
05-06-04, 06:02 AM
'Cunt' is actually one of the oldest swear words in existence (in the English language, at least). It comes from medieval times and stands for Carnal Unclean something something. They would paint it on people's doors if they were disbeleivers, often shortening it to it's four main letters: C.U.N.T.
At least that's what I've been told!

The Flemster.

The Flemster
05-06-04, 06:04 AM
He means commercial film, not commercials. At least I think thats what he means.
They said 'cunt' in out of africa. That guy was teaching merryl streep how to drive and he says 'keep your hands on the wheel, cunt' and then merryl streep says the titular line - 'I just can't wait to get out of africa'
Really powerful moment in the film :D


You are correct, of course, Doc.
And as for Out Of Africa, I can honestly say I have yet to subject myself to the film. I think I have it at home on tape somewhere.
Are you sure 'cunt' is uttered? The film only gets a 'PG' rating in the UK and it's not like the BBFC to let something like that slip through.
Although they did let two 'shits' slip into 'E.T.' in 1981 and that was rated 'U'!

The Flemster.

Dr Lou Natic
05-06-04, 09:45 AM
Oh i just made that all up. Never even seen out of africa. Sorry.

James R
05-06-04, 11:07 AM
Flemster,

Your story about the origins of the "C" word is an urban myth.

The Flemster
05-07-04, 08:40 AM
Flemster,

Your story about the origins of the "C" word is an urban myth.

Really?
Arse.
Whoever told me that is obviously a cu....

The Flemster.
:bugeye:

invert_nexus
05-07-04, 06:10 PM
I thought it meant Cant Understand Normal Thinking. :p

Closet Philosopher
05-07-04, 06:29 PM
People say "fuck" in a lot of PG movies I have seen lately. Titles can't come to mind. When my family wants to see a movie together, we rent a PG-13 movie (because of my younger sister) and there is a lot of swearing all the time.

The Flemster
05-10-04, 08:43 AM
People say "fuck" in a lot of PG movies I have seen lately. Titles can't come to mind. When my family wants to see a movie together, we rent a PG-13 movie (because of my younger sister) and there is a lot of swearing all the time.

Really? Can you name one?
It's not that I don't believe you, I just can't think of a PG rated film with fuck in it.
'Space Cowboys' has Clint Eastwood mouth the word 'motherfucker' as Tommy Lee Jones cut him up on the highway and that is a PG film in the UK, but other than that, I'm drawing a blank.

The Flemster.

Closet Philosopher
05-10-04, 12:55 PM
Erin Brockovich is rated PG in Canada. Ha! I win :)

Tiassa
05-10-04, 02:19 PM
The "c-word" "urban legend" actually derives from the same story about the "f-word", which in this form reflects a charge of rape: For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

In the meantime:

• "Cunt: A cultural history" - http://members.lycos.co.uk/mathunt/dissertation.html
• Wikipedia, "Cunt" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunt
• Wikipdedia, "Fuck" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck
• Dictionary.com, "Fuck" - http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fuck
• "The Origin of the Word 'Fuck'" - http://www.strangecosmos.com/read.adp?joke_id=1802

Don't know the history of the words in film. I haven't managed to figure out how to look it up at Google without drowning in bad (cheap) porn.

buffys
05-10-04, 02:32 PM
this is a bit of a tangent but it always kills me when people that don't swear use words like Fudge! Shoot! Dang!. I mean what matters more, intent or the actual group of letters?

When they SAY fudge they MEAN fuck (unless they're cooking brownies of course), so what's the difference really?.

The Flemster
05-11-04, 06:58 AM
this is a bit of a tangent but it always kills me when people that don't swear use words like Fudge! Shoot! Dang!. I mean what matters more, intent or the actual group of letters?

When they SAY fudge they MEAN fuck (unless they're cooking brownies of course), so what's the difference really?.

In England, the older, politer, generation often refer to someone they know who has commited a clumsy faux pas as a 'berk'.
It's seen as harmless and quaint.
Berk is also another word for cunt.
Bet most of 'em didnt know that!

The Flemster.

eddymrsci
05-11-04, 09:18 PM
I have no problem with profanity, it's just a way of expressing one's emotional feelings that some may find offensive, for some reason...