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plakhapate
08-21-07, 01:29 AM
Mathematics is the queen of science.

In Mathematics "Zero" is assumed to be present.

Physical existance of " zero" can not be proved.

Thus MATHEMATICS is based on assumption.

Thus most of the SCIENCE is based on assumption.

If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.

PLS COMMENT

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

juju
08-21-07, 04:04 AM
No. Not assumption. Theory, imagination...
Well, OK, a little bit of assuming, but we all assume to start from scratch sometimes...

Supernatural power? I can sit down and assume whatever I want for as long as I like.
If there is no harm, then I'll assume pigs really can fly.

bsemak
08-21-07, 05:55 AM
Mathematics is the queen of science.

In Mathematics "Zero" is assumed to be present.

Physical existance of " zero" can not be proved.

Thus MATHEMATICS is based on assumption.

Thus most of the SCIENCE is based on assumption.

If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.

PLS COMMENT

P.J.LAKHAPATE
plakhapate@rediffmail.com

Science based on assumptions: Yes, where the validity can be tested and proved (or disproved) experimentally.

Assume that a supernatural power exists: Do that, but that is not science.

Assume it, present a hypothesis, make some predictions and go and test if it is valid. That is science.

Vern
08-21-07, 06:15 AM
If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.
There is no harm in it until you try to use it to produce infrastructure for human existance. I would use science to build the next Jumbo Jet, fill it with people and be confident it will reach its destination. Not so the supernatural.

Oli
08-21-07, 06:52 AM
In Mathematics "Zero" is assumed to be present.
An absence is assumed to be present?

Physical existance of " zero" can not be proved.
Physical existence of any number cannot be proven.

Thus MATHEMATICS is based on assumption.
Thus most of the SCIENCE is based on assumption.
Assumption would be the wrong word.
Science (and mathematics) works - that's all science asks.

If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.
Does not follow.

Nasor
08-21-07, 08:28 AM
Physical existance of " zero" can not be proved.

"Zero" is simply the symbol for "none." It doesn't have any deep philosophical ramifications. How many flying pink elephants do you own? Would it be safe to say...zero? Oh, look, an example of zero in the natural world!

Thus MATHEMATICS is based on assumption.

Thus most of the SCIENCE is based on assumption.

The only "assumption" is that you can not have any of something. Ie., a person with no money has zero dollars.

If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.
This does not follow.

andbna
08-21-07, 10:36 AM
Mathematics is a theory, and has no assumptions, only axioms (which due to the nature of the theory, are correct unless someone shows they are contradictory)
Science, and most prominatly physics, seeks to understand how the universe works, consequently also describes it mathematicaly since it is much more usefull.

Zero not existing is a fairly mute point too, considering there is an entire set of imaginary numbers (which are equaly valid.)

And indeed, 0 is very present, as Nasor mentioned, I can have 0 dollars. Ultimatly, no number can actualy be 'prooven.' I like the wikipedias definition of number, as it very well describes it:
"A number is an abstract idea used in counting and measuring."

If this is so ,there is no harm in assuming that there exist supernatural power that control the entire universe.
Physics has mounds of proof, wheras the supernatural doesnt.

-Andrew