How long does this farce in iraq go on for, the sunnis are blowing up the shiaas every day, and the iraqi government which is largley made up of shiaas, the shiaa militia is targeting The US & UK troops, on a daily basis.

So if the sunnis & shiaas dont want us there, who does that leave the kurds, are we there to save the kurds, if thats the case, why did we not stop saddam wiping them out with chemical weapons a decade ago.

How stupid are the US & UK leaders, to not take a broad hint here, that we are not wanted either by the sunnis or the shiaas, its time to say we made a balls up, and goodbye.

I know the shiaa leaders in charge of the iraqi government, want us there, but they are western puppets who know that once we leave, the religous leaders of the shiaas, will be looking to control iraq, like they do in Iran.

If we are there to keep a handfull of men in power, we will be there for decades.

I feel if john kerry had won the presedency, he would have already planned a withdrawal by now, but this sap bush, who never admits he is wrong, is going to keep us all there, until his government is thrown out at the next election, and a new democrat president can come in, and say this was not my dumb ass idea, lets get the troops back now.

did you at any time, support the war?

did you at any time, support the war?
Yes i did, but i can admit to my mistakes, unlike bush & blair, even a monkey could see now, that what is going on in iraq, is a absolute farce, we need to get out now before this farce, becomes as big as the vietnam farce.

Too bad for you that Kerry actually supported the war.

Yes i did, but i can admit to my mistakes, unlike bush & blair, even a monkey could see now, that what is going on in iraq, is a absolute farce, we need to get out now before this farce, becomes as big as the vietnam farce.

thoughts on accountability and penalties?

Too bad for you that Kerry actually supported the war.

this is probably is directed at me
it is a mistake to think that american foreign policy depends solely on which political party is in power

it is common knowledge that the 2nd iraq invasion was hatched during clinton's watch. the policy merely came to fruition with the next president

Too bad for you that Kerry actually supported the war.
Kerry also supported vietnam, he came back from vietnam with a silverstar, and a anti-war vietnam message, which shows the man, is capable of holding his hand up & saying he is wrong, bush thinks he is perfect, and will admit no wrong.

Kerry has expierence of long wars, he knows they achieve jackshit, bushes only army expierence, is being AWOL.

John kerry like clinton, has a brain, bush does not, so we are going to have to wait for americans, to vote for a president with a brain, until then allied troops are stuck in iraq.

Australia & the UK are tied to the USA, through written & unwritten, war pacts, that we will come to eachothers aid, during wartimes, the australians have been in every american war bar grenada, they even followed them in to vietnam. Thank god the UK prime minister kept us out of that, commie bashing joke of a war.

this is probably is directed at me
it is a mistake to think that american foreign policy depends solely on which political party is in power

it is common knowledge that the 2nd iraq invasion was hatched during clinton's watch. the policy merely came to fruition with the next president
These damn republicans, are too stubborn, to admit they made a mistake with iraq, or to get out of iraq, the decision to get out of iraq, could be alot easier to make under a democratic government, any political analyst could tell you that.

sorry
none in the democratic leadership currently advocate a withdrawal
why assume that it will be different under actual governance?

again
thoughts on accountability and penalties?
perhaps adoption of rumsfeld's line..."stuff happens" ?

...the decision to get out of iraq, could be alot easier to make under a democratic government, any political analyst could tell you that.

Yeah, because they wouldn't give a damn about how many Iraqis would be murdered in a violent, religious civil war! ...nor would the media, just like they did with Vietnam! Millions of South Vietnamese were killed and "re-educated" after we left ....but no one ever talks about that.

Baron Max

bend over baroness
i'll make it quick

Yeah, because they wouldn't give a damn about how many Iraqis would be murdered in a violent, religious civil war! ...nor would the media, just like they did with Vietnam! Millions of South Vietnamese were killed and "re-educated" after we left ....but no one ever talks about that.

Baron Max

Baron it is not the job of foreign governments, to stop civil wars breaking out in other countries, america had a big civil war, do you think the british should have stuck there nose, into the civil war in america, would the confiderates, or the yankees, appreciate the british getting involved.
The answer is no, they would have joined forces to kick us out.

It is the job of foreign governments, to stop countries invading other countries, or to stop dangerous countries getting nukes.

The civil war going on iraq, will rage for decades, saddam was sitting on a powder keg of hate, between the ruling sunnis, and the shiaas, now the keg has blown up, only a ruthless dictator can put an end to the madness in iraq now.

When you have a large crazy element in your country, you need a crazy leeder to keep his jackboot on there throats, democracy is not what iraqies want.

The entire middle east is controlled, by dictators, if you bring democracy to all these middle eastern countries,you will bring absolute carnage, and religous fanatics controlling these countries.

Arabs are incapable of living in peace under, democratic leaders, why do you think the middle east is one big dictatorship.

It is the job of foreign governments, to stop countries invading other countries, or to stop dangerous countries getting nukes. .... it is not the job of foreign governments, to stop civil wars breaking out in other countries,...

Why the first two, but not the last?? Who said so? And where is that written? And do all nations of the world accept that as "law"? If not, ...?

The remainder of your post is nothing but idle supposition and speculation and guesses and views into your crystal ball? ;=)

Baron Max

Yes i did, but i can admit to my mistakes.

ok
you do not respond
it is thus safe to say that you just want to wash your hands and walk away
there is the blood of innocent people on your hands (unwashable) and you want to say...."i made a mistake"

filthy warpig. rot in goddamn hell

supposition and speculation and guesses and views

holy smokes!
the retard has discovered a thesaurus
you go boy!

ok
you do not respond
it is thus safe to say that you just want to wash your hands and walk away
there is the blood of innocent people on your hands (unwashable) and you want to say...."i made a mistake"

filthy warpig. rot in goddamn hell
So your advice, is dont admit your mistakes, but continue making them, like bush is.
My you are the intelligent one. >LOL

If religion were banned the world would be a better place

If religion were banned the world would be a better place

Without a doubt, it would be, but i dont think muslims, would stand, for it.
I am willing to give up my religon, are they, no not one would, they would fight to the death first, such are there religous beliefs, which are a compulsive disorder, brought on by brainwashing, very few catholics pray every day, muslims pray 3 or 5 times a day. it is a obsession to them.

So your advice, is dont admit your mistakes, but continue making them, like bush is.
My you are the intelligent one. >LOL

i got it! since your judgement is suspect....
you should never vote again

what say you?

i got it! since your judgement is suspect....
you should never vote again

what say you?
Gustav sounds like a german name to me, do i smell a nazi here, no wonder your anti- america, and anti-british empire stance, a empire that once covered 3 quarters of our planet, a empire that tamed the world, a empire chosen by god to lead the way, a empire whose children, america, australia, new zealand, canada, light up the milky way, aliens point from a distant planet, and say there lies the british empire, and her children shining brightly for the universe to see, they look on in awe, hoping that one day, they can emulate the empires achievements, i wish you luck my alien friends.

vincent

ahh yes, the refuge of the weak
resting on other's laurels
how have you "tamed the world"?

besides my good fellow, i believe the operative phrase here is..

"a empire that once covered "

you acknowledge the past "achievements" yet go on to say..

"there lies the british empire, and her children"

that i believe is the truest indication of an addled and delusional mind. a rather tenuous and fragile grip on reality. a twisted sense of morality where the whole scale slaughter, subjugation and genocide of the indigineous peoples of this world are lauded as...

"the empires achievements"

this babaric warmongering is held to the highest standard. it should emulated by...

"they can emulate the empires achievements"

...by aliens

saddam is a real pussy compared to you fucks eh?

oh
thanks tho, for your honesty

*gustav was a real give away, ja?

vincent

ahh yes, the refuge of the weak
resting on other's laurels
how have you "tamed the world"?

besides my good fellow, i believe the operative phrase here is..

"a empire that once covered "

you acknowledge the past "achievements" yet go on to say..

"there lies the british empire, and her children"

that i believe is the truest indication of an addled and delusional mind. a rather tenuous and fragile grip on reality. a twisted sense of morality where the whole scale slaughter, subjugation and genocide of the indigineous peoples of this world are lauded as...

"the empires achievements"

this babaric warmongering is held to the highest standard. it should emulated by...

"they can emulate the empires achievements"

...by aliens

saddam is a real pussy compared to you fucks eh?
Jealousy is a compliment, in its self, i accept it on behalf of the british empire.

not too shabby :D