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BobtheBuilder
07-04-07, 12:28 AM
acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?cat=5

I’ve frequently wondered whether it would be possible for cybernetically enhanced humans to colonize Venus without the use of terraforming, or even take a quick dip into the Sun’s photosphere and live to tell the tale. If we could replace the skin, muscles, and bones in the body with more durable synthetics, it could be possible. The idea that fullerenes could be used for synthetic muscles has been kicking around for some time, and the results of stress tests on carbon nanotubes released this week show great promise.

In the movie, the buckyball starts to get really fussy around 6,000 Kelvin, which, coincidentally, is just slightly hotter than the Sun’s average surface temperature of 5,778 K (9,953° F). The main issue with exploring/colonizing the Sun is that of unstable orbits taking would-be colonists directly to the core - however, between 0.08 and 0.21 AUs from the Sun is a dynamically stable zone, which may even contain Vulcanoid asteroids we have been prevented from observing thus far due to glare. This region may eventually open up for hardy colonists, as long as they can stand the heat and radiation.

Compared to the immediate circumsolar region, Venus is quite hospitable. With a mean surface temperature of 735 K (863° F), and a pressure of 90 atmospheres, living on Venus would be similar to dwelling near a deep-sea hydrothermal vent under about a kilometer of water. Harsh, no doubt, but nothing some forms of Earthly life can’t handle. If life forms made out of gooey proteins can deal with it, then it’s nothing that fullerene biota couldn’t handle. Why bother terraforming Venus when we can Venusform ourselves?

- Accelerating Future.

madanthonywayne
07-04-07, 12:44 AM
I could see humans colonizing Venus, but the Sun? I don't think we'll ever colonize the sun even with shiney new fullerene bodies. If the solar system ever gets so crowded that people start thinking about living on the sun......aren't there plenty of other solar systems out there?

BobtheBuilder
07-04-07, 12:56 AM
Well, I would think that it would be for research purposes. Studying the sun up close, ya know. Anyhow, the implications of such technology are astounding.

madanthonywayne
07-04-07, 01:26 AM
Well, I would think that it would be for research purposes. Studying the sun up close, ya know. Anyhow, the implications of such technology are astounding.
I could see that, or even for military purposes. But the thread title was "Sun Colony", so I wasn't thinking of research.

It would certainly take some incredible technology.

orcot
07-04-07, 12:51 PM
weirder things are possible but unless you have a decend why??? Then there is no reason to live inside a sun.
Anyway I believe it's possible to build a small bubble that can protect a human inside in every spot in this multiverse, altough not with todays technology.

Besides how much gravity wouldn't you experience (I believe it was x27?)

Pandaemoni
07-05-07, 01:06 AM
How would our fullerene bodies even get to the photosphere if temperature is a problem? They'd have to pass through the corona, which has a temperature of more than 1,000,000° K.

Plus, they'd better be deaf bodies. I think the surface of the Sun is a bit loud. (See, e.g., here (http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=000472F3-58DE-1480-98DE83414B7F0000&catID=3&topicID=2) saying "just as the roiling water makes noise, so does the convective overturning of the solar surface fill its atmosphere with intense sound waves. Thus, if you could stand on the solar surface, not only would it be very hot but it would also be incredibly loud. At least some of this sound makes its way upward into the corona, where dissipative processes covert the audio energy into heat. Because the coronal material is so thin and tenuous, only a tiny portion of all the sound energy in the photosphere needs to bleed up into the corona and be absorbed in order to heat it to the observed temperatures.") (With those temperatures being > 1,000,000° K, I assume that means it's pretty loud.)

I'm thinking fullerene-bodied robots may be in order for solar research.