Well we will let the scifi community decide!

Well it looks like im your first voter.

STARWARS WITHOUT A DOUBT

Star Trek is ok but no where near as good as starwars

I vote for star wars but understand it took me a very long time to do so!!!

Yeah I'm gonna have to go for Star Wars as well. Star Trek doesn't feel like it has any consistency or substance left now that they keep hammering out new Star Trek series every couple of years

I'd go for starwars - no question

Kirk is a classic. Star Trek has a lot of goo dstuff about it.

Star Wars rocks. Nuff said. :p

I like both. Star Wars is better for movies, but would royally suck if they tried to make a series of it. So that niche is filled by Trek.

BTW Inka, groovy avatar.

"Equally me thinks" - Yoda Voice

"Totaly Logical" - Spock

"Away put your weapon, I mean you no harm!"

-Yoda, on Dagobah

"Rest rest, must rest" - Yoda

"Logic is a little tweeting bird in a meadow" - Spock, I MUDD

Well, as long as we're on with the yoda quotes, "do or do not. There is no try." As this kind of limits it to one or the other (as opposed to trying to choose between them) I vote Star Wars. Besides, who other than George Lucas could get away with something as unrealistic as lightsabres? You just gotta respect that.

oh, and by the way...

For those of you who didn't know (shame shame) the person who did yoda's voice also did the voice of grover on sesame street :D

Of course I knew that. Frank Oz is my hero :D

wow...

alas, Im the only one who voted for Star Trek.

I think im about to commit blasphemy here but I really don't like Star Wars. (Thats all of them not just the new one)

I like Star Trek original and Next Generation but not DS9 and Voyager. I have not seen Enterprize.

othres may vote, given time.....

I am surprised Star Trek is losing,i love every part of it.
it has a class that star wars lack.It also lacks Partick...



bye!

Originally posted by zion
I am surprised Star Trek is losing,i love every part of it.
it has a class that star wars lack.It also lacks Partick...


erm, what class would that be then? Patrick Stewart is good though, but Star Wars is faster, trendier, more stylish I think too. I used to love Star Trek but its generally hogwash nowadays. Same old situations time and time again with lots of disconnected stories vaguely strung together. Star Wars however is a single tale with a rich mythology surrounding it.

Not the spin-offs ... The original! Who can resist the Three Stooges
of the future?

Although a brief flash of Princess Leia as Jobba the Hutt's prisoner
almost swayed me.

Take care ;)

Finally some people defend star trek I was getting worried for a minuite.

I don't understand why people think star wars is so great. I agree it has some pretty coool fight scenes but the plot line are no where near as interesting as Star Trek (I do agree that star trek has been bit overdone)

And of course Phantom Menace totaly sucked the rest were ok.


Same old situations time and time again with lots of disconnected stories vaguely strung together

Im not sure but I think that's the definition of a TV show

I love the origional portions of both, but i hate all the othr stuff that is put into the media

I vote Star Wars. The Phantom Menace sucks, but in total it is a great epic somewhat comparable to the Arthurian legend.
StarTrek is just a soap series in space ;) A very interesting soap series though!

BTW I am saving money to get myself a Borg homing device. Who else is interested?

the plot of Star Wars is almost 100% copied from the first four Hawkmoon books by Michael Morcok which is actually much better.

Star Wars was partly inspired by Akira Kurosowa's samurai flick 'Hidden Fortress', as well as Joseph Campbells essay's like "The Hero with a thousand faces"




Same old situations time and time again with lots of disconnected stories vaguely strung together

Im not sure but I think that's the definition of a TV show


Yes, a very poor TV show. A good series would throw up something new or exciting. I know 24 isnt sci fi, but its one of the most interesting and exhilirating programmes I've seen in ages.

The best Star Trek has to be TNG, and the movies. The original Star Trek was an over-glorified flash gordon. 2001:A Space Odyssey was released in the late 60's at around the same time as the original Star Trek, yet when you look at a film like 2001, it still looks new, it still looks realistic. The shot of Dave Bowman jogging round the interior of the Discovery looks like it could have been filmed yesterday by NASA on some new project they're working on, yet when you look at an episode of the original Star Trek where Captain Kirk is accidently beamed into a paralell universe where his alter ego is part of a galactic empire storming around conquering other worlds, or where some marauding hippies come on board and steal the ship, the term 'sci fi' pretty much flies out the window, and 'sci fantasy' comes into play. Some of the original episodes were good fun, but Star Wars is a much more thrilling sci-fantasy, which hasn't dated as badly as The Orginal Star Trek has with its day-glo uniforms and polystyrene sets. The atmospheric lightsaber battle in 'The Empire Strikes Back' pretty much blows away all of the pretentious techno-guff that Star Trek has been relying on for the past few years.

The Phantom Menace sucked, and I dont hold much hope for Attack Of the Clones, but Star Trek lost the plot ages ago. If you asked me which was better about 7 or 8 years ago, I would have struggled to have decided between the 2, but the way things are at the moment, its Star Wars all the way

I agree Star Trek has been on too long but TV show that has run for a long time runs out of ideas and should be stopped (Us brilliant americans however have yet to figure that simple fact out) You mentioned 24 as a good series but its only been on for 1 season, wait a few years it will get old to. (of course it has the advantage of having only one story per season which may help it stay good for longer) Between all the shows star trek has been on for 25 seasons (i think) definitely time to end.

I think that original series (special effects aside, the show had no budget) and next generation were great shows. And I still say that Star Wars has a very weak very overdone plot.

And I still say that Star Wars has a very weak very overdone plot.

but to the extent of the star trek over cooked noodles

I agree that the new star treks suck (DS9, Voyager, and Enterprize) but thats because the idea is old and shold stop. Next Generation and Original were both very interesting and inavative series.

Star Wars on the other hand has very little plot and there was almost nothing new about it.

I keep saying they should bring TNG back. I think it still has a solid story (the last few movies have been mediocre but pure genius compared to everything else that's trek out there). I don't think UPN should be able to run it though, ABC was where Next Generation was at when I saw it in the afternoons (as a wee little child), so I guess I have faith in em.

Originally posted by Pollux V
I keep saying they should bring TNG back. I think it still has a solid story (the last few movies have been mediocre but pure genius compared to everything else that's trek out there). I don't think UPN should be able to run it though, ABC was where Next Generation was at when I saw it in the afternoons (as a wee little child), so I guess I have faith in em.

Great idea, TNG was the best trek series and everything on UPN sucks so badly that they don't deserve to show it.

Plus they'd have the Enterprise E!! How cool is that beast?

star trek.

star wars is a very shallow plot with no depth of character and the new movies have drained the plot to nothing. they have managed to do with three movies what star trek did in 3 seasons. drain the plot

wars is newer so duh its trendier. compare what star wars is now to what TNG would have been to someone who watched it 2 yrs after it started

you dont have to compare everything in the present

I think TNG ended at the right time. If it went on they would be repeating ideas over again.

I love how people claim that Star Wars had a shallow plot and no depth of character. It makes me wonder what they think character is? Some idiot shouting technobable in a fight between ships that can't move without their shields on?

Star Trek had no central plot, a completely unrealistic society, ships that while cool loking made no sense (until the Defiant or Voyager), lame plots involving esoteric scientific hypotheses, and it wasn't even strung together well. And that is all the serie. FOr all that TOS, TNG, and DS9 were entertaining and worth watching.

Star Wars had a central plot, rich character development (for a pair of trilogies) Epic story line, realistic ships, captivating villians, humor, and realistic aliens. They even showed how a democracy left too long stagnate eats itself. I admit Jar Jar Binks is the biggest mistake in movies next to Ishtar, but as a character they did not do anyworse than Neelix.

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Necromancy!!!
Thus Sayeth The Prince!!!!!!!!!

Hey, chill out it was near the top when I posted to it.

Thou shalt not crap on other people's fun, thus sayeth the Assassin's Guild.

I voted starwars-, but just the old ones. The new ones loose :)

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Fuck Off.

Nickelodeon:

Suck my balls.

My money is on Star Wars.
Return of the Jedi has always been my fave, then empire, then the original. The new ones aren't in the same league so I don't include them.

Neither. :mad:

Nickelodeon:

Suck my balls.

Oh can I?

Hooray!! Star Wars winning!

Wars has really crappy acting....
especially 1,2,3
Trek at least has some good bits.

Oh, what the hell? it spawned a third!

Wars has really crappy acting....
especially 1,2,3
Trek at least has some good bits.
Harrison Ford
Leam neesan
Natalie Portman
Ewan McGregor

An incongruity, this is... :-)
Neh... It's really hard to say... On one hand, you have the gallace fight sceens in stars wars - plus it makes a good double trilogy, with the classical ad hoc between good versus evil... and then again, you have the supposidly good scientifical side of Star Trek, with the cold logic from both Data and Spock... makes a good tv series too, something which star wars would fail. I the end though, i would have to decalair star wars.
:D:m:

Yeah I'm gonna have to go for Star Wars as well. Star Trek doesn't feel like it has any consistency or substance left now that they keep hammering out new Star Trek series every couple of years

Not really.

Harrison Ford
Leam neesan
Natalie Portman
Ewan McGregor

Not the actors, the scripts. Dammit the writers created a whole shitload of one-dimensional characters...