View Full Version : Stalin vs. Hitler


Xev
07-18-03, 12:45 AM
Who Shall Triumph? (http://www.comics.aha.ru/rus/stalin/1.html)

Myriad360
07-18-03, 06:25 AM
Hmm, this comic sort of makes Stalin look like a good guy. Even thought he sided with the alies, you know he was in charge of a big genecide himself, right?

Vortexx
07-18-03, 06:53 AM
If Hitler didn't strike first , Stalin probably would have made the attempt to conquer Europe himself, that's what i think....

Stalin weas building an enormous amount of battle tanks in the east of the soviet provences, far away from german intelligence, both the german first strike and encountering this amount of russian tanks were unpleasant surprises for bots Stalin and Hitler and ruined their plans...

airavata
07-18-03, 06:54 AM
Bloody good....really funny. I love the way Hitler's potrayed here. The drawings are pretty good too.

Pollux V
07-18-03, 09:27 AM
Stalin said, I believe, that Hitler was the only man he truly trusted. This is probably coming after they signed the nonaggression pact and before Hitler stabbed Stalin in the back...

Stalin was truly heartbroken when he heard news of the Nazi advance. 80% of the fighting later in the war was done by the Soviet Union, and if Hitler had been a little more patient he would have easily repelled the allied invasion.

DJSupreme23
07-18-03, 01:36 PM
Odd comic. Nicely drawn, quite nicely, but It seems a bit odd to me that two of the worlds biggest mass murderes get fame (whatever :p) in this way... :confused:

Xev
07-18-03, 01:39 PM
Humour. Somehow, someway, find a sense of it.

sargentlard
07-18-03, 02:37 PM
Interesting. The art was quite good.....thank god they kept it in black and white, it really plays well against the humor.

Myriad360
07-19-03, 12:11 AM
Yeah, it was good, but it gave Stalin too much credit. Plus, I think the only thing that really saved the Soviet Union from Hitler was the winter conditions.

Redoubtable
07-19-03, 12:39 AM
I'd say that the Soviet's earnest industriousness was another cause.

The T-34 gave the Germans a nasty shock ! Although it can be considered a development of the BT series, the T-34/76 is actually a major redesign : more armour protection, wide tracks, a powerful engine, and a great gun. With these features, it outclassed all the German tanks in service in 1941.

In response to the German invasion (Operation Barbarossa), a mass of T-34 streamed from the newly built Tankograd production plant : from 1940 to 1945 more than 40,000 T-34s (of all models) were delivered. Hurriedly built and poorly finished by western standards, the T-34/76 was nevertheless a superb fighting machine.

Source (http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/1975/g_tnkurs.htm)

Tankograd was a veritable embroilment of military production, which belched forth a fell and mighty horde to reciprocate German inimicality and right the wrong of Hitler's treaty-impingement.

aghart
07-20-03, 04:45 PM
Hitler was of course really an allied agent otherwise why would he have made such disasterous military decisions.


Yeah, it was good, but it gave Stalin too much credit. Plus, I think the only thing that really saved the Soviet Union from Hitler was the winter conditions.

I agree, if Hitler had attacked when he intended to instead of pissing about in Yugoslavia and Greece first and had not diverted his main thrust away from Moscow at a critical moment then it is likely that Moscow and probobly the whole Soviet Union would have been beaten.

The T-34 gave the Germans a nasty shock ! Although it can be considered a development of the BT series, the T-34/76 is actually a major redesign : more armour protection, wide tracks, a powerful engine, and a great gun. With these features, it outclassed all the German tanks in service in 1941.

I agree with this as well but remember that early german encounters with T34's usually ended in german victorys because of their superior tactics. Improved Soviet tactics combined with the T34 wow what a combination.