View Full Version : Spirit is actually a product of the mind


Cortex_Colossus
02-06-08, 12:26 PM
Sorry I just realized I had been deluded for years. And I am awakening from a dream.

According to Einstein, "every human being experiences themself in a limited space and time." He was onto the truth but he was not in the actual moment, for there is no time in the actual reality, it is an eternal moment in which we live and in which we die. A single moment in time is what can only be perceived.

According to Walter Russel, "All matter is moving accross "space" to register the electrical potential at the place of its birth where it belongs." I don't think he's talking about a physical place here. Since I cannot imagine why matter would be searching for a physical place, I will therefore reject it, for it has no application to the living world itself. ?**&(

I am no longer living the "truth", I am actually experiencing the actual moment. My words and thinking are clearer, and this is an account of what is called a PCE or pure consciousness experience.

There is no "me", "myself", or "I". This is the only way to effect the peace and harmony with others. It was all a big diversion "me", "Myself", or "I" was living for years.

Apparently the belief in immortality is a hope or a belief, it is therefore not actual fact. The moment is what is actual and eternal.

This is a glimpse of the battle with myself ended. The "I" was an illusion or entity that inhabitted this body.

Jozen-Bo
02-06-08, 12:34 PM
You the first person I have heard on the forum to mention Walter Russell, other then myself. Cool.:cool:

cosmictraveler
02-06-08, 12:38 PM
Walter Russell

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Walter Russell (1871–1963), is an American artist, sculptor, architect, and a controversial figure in physics and cosmogony, credited as the originator of the term 'New Age'. He posited that the universe was founded on the unifying principle of rhythmic balanced interchange. Although a number of his books have been published, few of his claims have been verified by mainstream academics. This is mainly due to the fact that scientists assume the existence of matter and Dr. Russell assumes the existence of mind. Nevertheless, according to Sears and Zemansky, two Physics professors at C.C.N.Y. in New York City, "...Newton himself believed that it was possible to conceive of a reference system in a state of 'absolute rest', anchored in some way to empty space. "Conceive" meaning "to form a notion or idea of; imagine". In other words, it would be impossible to realize it in practice but not in mind.

sandy
02-06-08, 12:51 PM
I disagree with the title of this thread. I believe we are spirits. We live in a body. We have a soul (mind/will/emotion.) :)

Myles
02-06-08, 12:59 PM
I disagree with the title of this thread. I believe we are spirits. We live in a body. We have a soul (mind/will/emotion.) :)

Is the soul material or immaterial ?

spidergoat
02-06-08, 01:08 PM
Sorry I just realized I had been deluded for years. And I am awakening from a dream.

According to Einstein, "every human being experiences themself in a limited space and time." He was onto the truth but he was not in the actual moment, for there is no time in the actual reality, it is an eternal moment in which we live and in which we die. A single moment in time is what can only be perceived.

According to Walter Russel, "All matter is moving accross "space" to register the electrical potential at the place of its birth where it belongs." I don't think he's talking about a physical place here. Since I cannot imagine why matter would be searching for a physical place, I will therefore reject it, for it has no application to the living world itself. ?**&(

I am no longer living the "truth", I am actually experiencing the actual moment. My words and thinking are clearer, and this is an account of what is called a PCE or pure consciousness experience.

There is no "me", "myself", or "I". This is the only way to effect the peace and harmony with others. It was all a big diversion "me", "Myself", or "I" was living for years.

Apparently the belief in immortality is a hope or a belief, it is therefore not actual fact. The moment is what is actual and eternal.

This is a glimpse of the battle with myself ended. The "I" was an illusion or entity that inhabitted this body.

:cheers: Congratulations! The mind creates the illusion of self in order to sustain and provide for the body.

Myles
02-06-08, 01:40 PM
:cheers: Congratulations! The mind creates the illusion of self in order to sustain and provide for the body.

You can take the argument a step further. What is it that creates the illusion of self and what purpose does it serve ?

spidergoat
02-06-08, 01:51 PM
The mind does this, which is an organ of the body. It influences actions like self-preservation, feeding, self-defense, reproduction...

Cortex_Colossus
02-06-08, 02:00 PM
You're right on spidergoat. Apparently "I" was hurting "me" all these years inadvertently i.e. involuntarily and by conditioning. But there is no "I" to hurt "me" for the first time today.

Reprogramming the brain is now possible. I came across this website and had suffered until I woke up after reading through it and suddenly awakening to a heightened awareness. I am the infinite and eternal universe experiencing itself as not "the" but one of many physical bodies.

PEACE AND HARMONY WITH MYSELF AND OTHERS IS NOW AND TRULY ABSOLUTELY HERE AT THIS VERY MOMENT...

http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/

spidergoat
02-06-08, 02:21 PM
A quick look at that site reminds me of this one:
http://www.well.com/user/jct/

Myles
02-06-08, 02:23 PM
The mind does this, which is an organ of the body. It influences actions like self-preservation, feeding, self-defense, reproduction...

Do beetles have a mind ? They and many other lesser creatures seem to get by without one. Can they be said to have a sense of self ?

spidergoat
02-06-08, 02:31 PM
They have a brain, I don't know if they just react or have a sense of self.

Myles
02-06-08, 03:07 PM
They have a brain, I don't know if they just react or have a sense of self.

I was asking tongue in cheek.

Cortex_Colossus
02-06-08, 03:08 PM
From what I remember only the higher order primates can recognize themselves in a mirror. The brains of monkeys and dolphins seem to experience suffering. So it would make sense to think that the animal instincts are sabotaging every large-brained creature's right to live in peace or "love agape" with "themselves" and thus others.

spidergoat
02-06-08, 03:44 PM
I was asking tongue in cheek.

I was serious. Spiders and social insects probably have more sophisticated brains than we give them credit.

Yorda
02-07-08, 09:55 AM
Is the soul material or immaterial ?

everything is both immaterial and material because material and immaterial are the same thing in different states.

Enmos
02-07-08, 11:05 AM
everything is both immaterial and material because material and immaterial are the same thing in different states.

So what state is this soul in then, material or immaterial ? Jeez.. :bugeye:

sowhatifit'sdark
02-08-08, 08:33 AM
:cheers: Congratulations! The mind creates the illusion of self in order to sustain and provide for the body.
Seems rather excessive. Why not just have a machinelike intelligence? Where is the need for a sense of self?

sowhatifit'sdark
02-08-08, 08:38 AM
I am no longer living the "truth", I am actually experiencing the actual moment. My words and thinking are clearer, and this is an account of what is called a PCE or pure consciousness experience.
Then perhaps you should leave the subject out of the sentence. Otherwise it sounds like a non-entity bragging.

There is no "me", "myself", or "I". This is the only way to effect the peace and harmony with others. It was all a big diversion "me", "Myself", or "I" was living for years. How can anything be a diversion? Were phenomena not experienced?

Apparently the belief in immortality is a hope or a belief, it is therefore not actual fact.

This is not a logical necessity. I question that therefore. One can have hopes and beliefs that are also true. The sets overlap.

The moment is what is actual and eternal.what is eternal about it?

This is a glimpse of the battle with myself ended. The "I" was an illusion or entity that inhabitted this body.

It was an illusion
or
an entity?

To me these are not sets that overlap.