***SPOILERS***

Good things come in threes! Lucky Number Three. Third time's the charm!

...except Spider-Man 3.

I know that I am a fan of superlatives ("FANTASTIC!", "EXPONENTIAL", "OUTSTANDING", "HORRIFIC", DESPICABLE"), but I am plum outta' words for how.... well... HORRIBLE this movie was.

First off, let's talk about "redemption movies"-- you know, the movies where a decent guy does a bad thing, but then finds his way-- you know, like the "Dark Spiderman" or "Harry Osborne" or "The Sandman"-- all of whom are generally forgivable dudes who just wandered down the wrong path because of "circumstances" outside their control. I could write a plot better than this one, faster than you can say, "liberal agenda".

Yawn.

So-- Mary Jane is growing ever tired of Peter's ever growing fame as "Spidey". New York loves him... but hate's her. Her star is falling. She gets sick of him right before he proposes to her and runs out for god-knows-where. Along the way Peter (through unimaginably infinitesimal circumstances) just HAPPENS to be in a park when a meteorite filled with sinister goo softly plummets to the Earth**. Later, the goo clings to his motor scooter and makes it to his bedroom without much ado.

After a contrived fight with Osborne/Goblin Jr. where Harry gets amnesia and then finds his memories again, Pete gets dumped by MJ who's in the service of the Goblin Jr. but really wants him back... but doesn't... but does... OH FUCKIT... just bear with me.

Somewhere along the way Peter makes an enemy of total-asshole Eddy Brock who really, REALLY hates him (so much, that he asks the "lord" to intervene). Peter, donning the new "dark suit" becomes so powerful that he kicks Harry's "Goblin Ass" so badly that he almost kills him a second time. Peter runs around New York as a new "darker" pimp-assed dude. Gets made fun of. Sings at a nightclub (YES, I am NOT making this stuff up). Makes Mary Jane Cry. Realizes that he doesn't like who he as after Aunt May talks with him and reminds him of "who he is"... yawn.

So Peter goes to contemplate his life wile clinging to the side of a church tower. Then decides to rip off the suit, and after banging his head against a bell a couple times to "make some noise", Peter gets the suit off, which then promptly drips down the tower and COINCIDENTIALLY drops on the Peter-hating Eddy Brock standing serendipitously below. Somewhere in there a guy (who really is just a nice guy) becomes The Sandman because police manage to chase him into some thermonuclear experiment being conducted JUST OUTSIDE NEW YORK????? (Yeah) So the experiment goes on. He bonds with the sand and BAM!!! Well, he escapes and runs around New York causing havoc.... YAWWWWWWWN.

Ho-hum... Sandman and Venom unite against Spidey. Peter asks Harry for help and TELLS him again that he didn't kill his father. Harry says no. Harry has a meeting with his butler who tells him that Peter didn't kill his father. Peter goes to rescue Mary Jane from Venom and Sand Man. Harry arrives just in time to help. They beat Venom but right before beating the Sand Man, he morphs back into the "real man" and redeems himself too.

Sure, this is the abridged version. But you get the picture. THIS MOVIE SUCKED so bad that the entire audience BOO'ed at the end! I'm happy the franchise is over.


~String

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**meteorites NEVER plummet so softly. Any the size of a basketball, would explode a crater about a hundred feet across, make a deafening noise like a small nuke and would ABSOLUTELY obliterate any organic and/or quasi-organic substance contained therein.

Well, String, I loved the first two films, but was afraid Hollywood's knack for ruining a good thing was going to catch up with the franchise this time around. Based on your review, and what little I've read on the internet, my fears are coming true.

I can excuse some of the obvious plot devices you've mentioned (this is a comic book put to film remember), but not them all. And frankly, like yourself, I'm sick and tired of all the Spider-man villains being people who just can't help being criminals for one reason or another. That's unrealistic, defies logic and smacks of overt politics. The Sandman I remember from the comics was a bank robber, nothing more. And Venom? Venom was envy incarnate. A sort of modern-day take on the whole ancient morality play motif, where human vices were displayed through characters built around them.

Counte... there you are. And with 35 posts. I'm gonna have to visit more often. Nice to see you, btw.

~String

when spiderman goes bad he actually turns into an emo kid from the 70's.i cant believe they made a joke out of his whole dark side,i thought there was going to be a good 30 min portion of spider-evil.but no,he dresses like a pussy and does "gun-fingers" at everyone.

When i read your revieuws and knowing it's the most expensive movie ever I must money well spend lol.

Aren't there any good writers left?

What's Spidey 4 gonna be. Mj and Peter having Babies? Allthough the bed scenes might be intresting though. Maybe he has a kinky side lol.

It's not only Spiderman. I like a good superhero movie but it is getting to much for the moment. Just like slasher-movies. It's time there where a couple of good sci-fi movies. It's been from 'Serenity' there was a good sci-fi movie;

Or maybe some Stephen King or Dean Koontz books turn to the screen.

What pissed me off, was the image of spidey here swinging with the american flag in full breeze and illuminated at night. Dude, I though Superheroes were something international, but that just ruined the entire thing for me.

I saw it yesterday and I was bored. To be honest I'm not a fan of the first two films so I wasn't expecting too much, but even so it sucked big time.
Roll on F4 Rise of The Silver Surfer!

This movie was deficient in every plot device it produced. Much of it goes on unexplained...They put the most minimum effort into this movie and it showed.

Are you all mad?! WTF are you talking about the movie makes perfect sense, infact it's even better than the other 2 before it!

Let me expand on this...

Venom wasn't placed in the same character as the comics, the original Venom came down with that Astronaut that wanted to marry MJ in #2. They opted out for that because it would've made the storyline to large for 1 movie alone, thus they made up the story of Venom coming down on an asteroid, which in theory isn't impossible since they found him on one to begin with. So fuck off dorks you know this is still freaking cool as hell!

Next is your ranting about the things left open, ummm what things? They closed every damn plot they started, every one! Are you kidding?

Also it's important to realize, Peter even in the original comics wasn't some bad ass with the Venom suit, he was still goofy and stuff but just darker.. the movie almost exactly paralleled what the comics feel is, he wasn't a killer but not actually the same either.

The movie is amazing, it's worth paying anything to go see, I'm confused what you are smoking?

Broc was a mean gerk and deserved to suffer, I hope he is dead forever!

Now the thing I was pissed with is MJ, she's a little bitch for leaving Peter and making him suffer, so he kissed a girl who cares?

You see what happens here men, when a girls doing well she'll be nice and bang you, then if things don't go her way she'll go after your best friend and try him! Beware!

From superstring's review (I haven't watched the movie yet) it seems to me that Venom's development was fairly close to comic and tv-cartoon 'canon'. Sandman however wasn't...ah well.

I have only seen the first one, and that was OK, but seriously, This one the acting seemed a bit off......
Also It was so Goddamned Cliched, more so than any other movie i've seen, even shooter.

I wouldn't bother closely analysing the plot for a comic book movie that involves a kid with super powers from radioactive spider bite and a man completely made of sand.

You have to bear in mind that they have tried to put in a couple of decades of comic book storylines into one movie. I thought they brought it all together quite well.

Yes there are a few very cheesy scenes. Spidey in front of the US flag was a bit sickening.

Overall though it is a pretty good movie. If you liked the first two you will like this.

Saw Spidey 3 and I don't really see what the beef is about. I understand limitations of porting from comics (virtually limitless time to develop origins and plots) to movies (maximum of 2.5 hours to do the same).

That being said, comic fans would appreciate that Venom is an outerspace symbiont. The fact that the Venom entity didn't go thru the whole space shuttle trip etc is immaterial in terms of the movie. Outside of this, the Brock-Venom origin kinda follows, since it WAS Brock who becomes Venom anyways...again the producers shorten the origin storyline for the silver screen - understandable.

Sandman in my opinion was developed much better than in the cartoon. I never really took Sandman seriously in the Spidey cartoon, but the movie showed how powerful Sandman could really be. Didn't like the 'continuity' with Uncle Ben, but it works for tying in the movies. His movie origin is somewhat contrived, however it's not a thermonuclear experiment. That machine was basically a souped up centrifuge, probably an experimental machine to break down raw materials.

As for the emotion...well, humanizing these heroes seems to be a trend, and the Spidey 3 writers/producers did it well. Tobey Macguire however looks odd when he cries. Makes it a little more difficult to empathize with the character.

I thought the movie was well executed, with understandable shortening of the comics, and a few "cheesy" scenes (like the Spidey in front the US flag shot, I think half the audience in the cinema I was in grumbled - I think those guys did it on purpose just to cause a stir; after the Superman Returns - "American Way" brouhaha).

Final word: go see it. I always say ignore the naysayers and watch the movie yourself if you're a fan. Spidey 3 is worth it, even if you go just to see some gratuitous superhero-supervillian fighting.

Those of you who mentioned "the American flag thing" were right. It was so cheesy. PLEASE tell me they cut that for international audiences? (perhaps substituting the Union Jack for in front of their UN embassy for the Brits, the Tricolor for the French, etc)

~String

Are you all mad?! WTF are you talking about the movie makes perfect sense, infact it's even better than the other 2 before it!
Not by a long shot. This movie was filled with happenstance and ill thought plot devices.

Let me expand on this...
this should be good...

Venom wasn't placed in the same character as the comics, the original Venom came down with that Astronaut that wanted to marry MJ in #2. They opted out for that because it would've made the storyline to large for 1 movie alone, thus they made up the story of Venom coming down on an asteroid, which in theory isn't impossible since they found him on one to begin with. So fuck off dorks you know this is still freaking cool as hell!

I don't care about the divergence from the comic.
This is the first happenstance plot device. What's wrong with that. well when you string alot of happenstance plot devices together the story becomes unbelieveable.

Next is your ranting about the things left open, ummm what things? They closed every damn plot they started, every one! Are you kidding?

I'm guessing you were okay with the open plot devices...and lack of explanation.

Also it's important to realize, Peter even in the original comics wasn't some bad ass with the Venom suit, he was still goofy and stuff but just darker.. the movie almost exactly paralleled what the comics feel is, he wasn't a killer but not actually the same either.

actually he was bad @ss...or as bad as the Peter Parker character gets.

It was about as lame as superhero movies get... except for maybe Spiderman 2.

I was thinking as "lame" AS sUPERman Returns.

I was thinking as "lame" AS sUPERman Returns.

I wouldn't know.
I didn't bother with that one.

Batman Begins was good.

Oh yeah. Can't wait for the next Bats film

Batman Begins was good.

One of the best superhero/comic movies yet.

Speaking of superhero/comic movies, is there any new news about the Transmetropolitan movie rumors?

Batman Begins was good.

It was good but not great...I was bit weird to portray a guy wearing a bat suit and swinging around a real city...

Yeah, I agree. They f**ked up this movie, big time.

In my opinion, they should've left Harry Osbourne alone. Why kill the guy? I loved him as a bad guy who wanted to avenge his father's death. Stupid stupid.

And Venom was defeated so easily? Give me a break. I would've loved to have seen Spiderman get pummelled a few times (in clear losses to Venom), before finally overcoming Venom in a historic fight.

And Sandman? Well...cool character. Too bad they portrayed him as a big pussy.

Too many characters, not enough character development. Just like X-Men 3.

Too many characters, not enough character development.
Absolutely - with 2 1/2 hours, you'd think there would be some decent character development.

They developed the characters very well, what are you yapping about?

As for the Venom battle, it wasn't easy, he almost got killed :L

Osbourne, they shouldn't have killed him... it was sad :(

It was a pathetically bad movie on all fronts.
The story was not believable.
The dialogue was contrived.
The characters were underdeveloped.
The action sequences were simply not believable. (taking chunks out of the brick building with Osbourne's head???)
I haven't bought Peter's "relationship" with Mary Jane since the first one. (what do they even like about each other?)

This was the worst movie I have seen in a long time.

Oh boy............Spider-Man 3.

((Do not read if you have not seen the movie, everyone must judge it for themselves))

-With great power....oh who cares its not my fault anymore?-

Something I noticed from the previews, and seeing it again in the movie, was how Uncle Ben was killed. Spider-Man's motto, the motto passed down to him from his Uncle Ben, is "With great power.....comes great responsibility". Now I'm sure we all remember why he became Spider-Man in Movie 1. He let the thief run right by him, and in the process, the same man killed his Uncle. This is what teaches him the importance of the motto, and why people with gifts must use them for good. Oh but wait!.....now we find out that it wasn't really that guy who killed Uncle Ben anyway? Doesn't that seem to contradict the reason he became Spider-Man? I hated that. It didn't make any sense.

-Lets see how much we can shove into 2.5 hours and call it a day-

Its easy to understand that they had to put so much in one movie, much of the movie itself was overwhelming. However, it seems as though they would have done better making two movies within a close range of release dates. This would be similar to how the Matrix trilogy was ended.

-Villain(s)?-

The new green goblin, venom, and the sand man. Harry seems to just be retarded, how many times must someone say "I didn't kill your father" before they understand. And suddenly this butler, Bernard, knows what's going on the entire time? The Sandman gets some sappy "I forgive you" speech from Spidey at the end, and he simply turns into dust and flies off to rob another bank for his sick daughter, bravo spidey. Harry dies, and then Venom does? Okay so who cares if Harry's dead, big deal. But Venom? What the fuck? Venom, a long time rival of Spider-Man, dies this quickly. Well shit at this rate Spider-Man is going to kill every villain in the marvel universe within the next few years, everyone give three cheers for peace on earth.

-Mary Jane, what's hot, she's not?-

In the second movie she had her face up all over the place, she was popular, well loved, she even LOOKED better in the second movie. She's much more homely in this movie, more dressed down. She did nothing but complain at Peter for his fame and her failure. Its understood that stars rise and fall, sometimes rapidly, but it just didn't seem necessary to make her such a black hole in this movie. And the singing, I mean good God.

-Black Spider-Man Costume, the musical-

Maybe in the comics parker under the symbiote's influence was still somewhat goofy, but in the 90's cartoon he sure didn't seem to be. Also, the previews lead you to believe that he's going to turn evil, not become competition for John Travolta's talents in Saturday Night Fever. And since when can Parker play the piano? Also, the black costume was suppose to morph into whatever shape he wished, it would become a suit, or street clothes, or the spider-man costume. What happened to that? why was it only black goo on one of his normal costumes?


-All talk no terror-

Most of the movie was dialogue, and that's fine for some movies. But Spider-Man takes a viewer on a rollercoaster of thrills, adventure, blah blah blah. People......people were crying at the end of this movie......CRYING. It was just one depressing scene after another. The entire feeling provoked by this movie was far different than the other two. We didn't get any real action, excitement, and not ONCE did he use his spider-sense, what the hell is up with that? The train scene from movie 2? Awesome. The fight with Flash in Movie 1? Bad ass. This time we got parker staring at the floor while his mentally challenged friend was being worked on by Doctor's, how invigorating!


So in conclusion, honestly, despite my ranting, I did enjoy the movie. I'm a huge fan of Spider-Man, he's always been my favorite super hero. But this movie's tone is far different than the other two. Every few moments someone is dead or sad. Its just not up to the standard the other two set.

So in conclusion, honestly, despite my ranting, I did enjoy the movie. I'm a huge fan of Spider-Man, he's always been my favorite super hero. But this movie's tone is far different than the other two. Every few moments someone is dead or sad. Its just not up to the standard the other two set.

I don't understand how you could like it if what you said above is what you really thought of it.

Yeah, I agree. They f**ked up this movie, big time.

In my opinion, they should've left Harry Osbourne alone. Why kill the guy? I loved him as a bad guy who wanted to avenge his father's death. Stupid stupid.

And Venom was defeated so easily? Give me a break. I would've loved to have seen Spiderman get pummelled a few times (in clear losses to Venom), before finally overcoming Venom in a historic fight.

And Sandman? Well...cool character. Too bad they portrayed him as a big pussy.

Too many characters, not enough character development. Just like X-Men 3.


I concur...too much in as much time...it did a better job that X 3 but not by a whole lot.

Are you all mad?! WTF are you talking about the movie makes perfect sense, infact it's even better than the other 2 before it!

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Oddly enough, I gotta agree with darksidZz here.

As an original fan of the books, the flick was pretty decent.

I'm not sure what it is the po'd people (perhaps cartoon series fans??) here are so upset with.

I'm not pissed off, and I just barely remember the comics (I haven't read a Soiderman comic since the late 70's/early 80's).
I am not comparung to any Spidey this or Spidey than and upset about it's authenticity or any thing else.
I just think the movie sucked.

I don't understand how you could like it if what you said above is what you really thought of it.

As I said, Spider-Man has always been my favorite super hero. So while I didn't like many parts of it, its still a Spider-Man movie. And in my opinion, the worst parts of it still makes it awesome in comparison to some of the other crap I've seen in some other marvel movies. But that's just me.

Oddly enough, I gotta agree with darksidZz here.

As an original fan of the books, the flick was pretty decent.

I'm not sure what it is the po'd people (perhaps cartoon series fans??) here are so upset with.

Good :L you see, I'm normal :p Now listen to me... Venom wasn't able to appear in the 2nd movie because to introduce him on MJ's fiance would've been a disaster to the ongoing storyline, so instead they opted to make him arrive in a meteroite, which in theory is fine since he was mined out of an asteroid anyway.

MJ is still young, she's learning what being with spiderman is going to entail, she won't get all the attention she wants, and the loss of it from her theatrical career is what puts a strain on their relationship, it's reasonable. That's when she realized who Peter really is, not 2 seperate people but 1 in the same.

Mj wasn't dressed sexy and stuff because she was to focused on other stuff to worry about her looks :p

The changing around of the killer of Ben was of little importance, what it did do was setup the possibility of Peter going nuts cuz he accidently killed the wrong fellow.. it also lets Venom come into the picture by attaching to peter... So yea that's a great idea... sandman was funny to me, he was a dope and not very bright, why didn't he just go into a vault, then leave when nobody was around?

Anyways... sandman is stupid, as usual :p

Venom wasn't weak, he almost killed everybody but Peter got lucky, that's what it comes down to, luck.

As for Harry, well... the butler was around all the damn time, why wouldn't he know his father was killed that way? Now there are a few things to ask... even though his fathers glider killed him why does it immediately mean Spidey did not? Also why would the butler clean his wounds, why not call the hospital.. besides that wasn't his father dead already?

So yea... confusing things but reasonable...

I was somewhat annoyed, MJ thought she would break things off with Peter to save him, wtf? She knew he was spidey, he's stronger than Harry!

spidermna 3 was so crappy that i will not merit it more than 1 lines worth of insults.


peace.

It wasn't as unwatcheable as you lot seem to think. What I disliked most was the death of Venom and Harry Osborne.

They killed off Doctor Octopus in the previous Spiderman film, and Norman Osborne in the first;
Scarecrow & Ra's al Gul in Batman Begins;
Joker, Penguin and Two-Face in the earlier Batman movies;
Toad, Sabretooth, Spike, Psylocke, Callista, Phoenix and all those others in the X-Men films...

Why do superheros on the big screen inevitably eliminate most of their principle foes? Characters who should last as long as the heroes do? :(

This is because they aren't as dumb as they were before, now they kill those bas'terds and make them pay for thier insults and war crimes!!!

I would've liked to see them freeze venom, that would be funny lol Send him off world like the BLOB

I would've liked to see them freeze venom, that would be funny lol Send him off world like the BLOB

That would have been better, yes. I stayed in the auditorium until the end of the credits, hoping there would be a coda sequence - in which some scrap of the Venom symbiote had survived and found a new host:cool: . Alas, t'was not to be...

Silver screen supervillians are necessarily mortal because the movies won't be as continuous as a cartoon series.

Besides, Batman hasn't killed off everyone yet (Toyman would make for an excellent special effects Batman movie)...F4 left Doom locked in his own metallic body...Magneto is still alive...Apocalypse hasn't been played yet...there's a new Superman...JLA or members thereof are due, possibilities abound.

JLA or members thereof are due, possibilities abound.

I'd like to see the Martian Manhunter in a movie - I know he's featured in Smallville, but only as a shadowy telepathic mystery figure.

["Batman Begins" was] One of the best superhero/comic movies yet.

Agreed. "The Punnisher" was also top notch. So was "X-Men II". I was also a big fan of "Superman Returns" but I normally get heckled when I say that.

~String

Superman Returns was not appreciated for what the producers aimed for. Rather than copying the likes of Smallville or JLA/JLU, they followed classic Reeves Superman and Hackman Luthor. I think they did that to revive the genre and introduce this new actor. Now that he's introduced, I imagine we can expect further development a la JLA.

Starthane: I think Manhunter would be an excellent character in a superhero movie but not by himself. He'd make an excellent team up with Batman or Superman.

A Green Lantern/Sinestro movie would be wonderful :) I imagine the special effects might look a little odd as all the projections need to be translucent green or yellow.

I want a Transmetropolitan movie!
It's Spider Jerusalem's day for the big screen.

Now that he's introduced, I imagine we can expect further development a la JLA.

...I think Manhunter would be an excellent character in a superhero movie but not by himself. He'd make an excellent team up with Batman or Superman..

A JLA movie would be the perfect counterpoint to the X-Men films! :cool:

Martian Manhunter's variety of powers would have to be reduced a little, like in the JLA cartoon - or moviegoers would see him as the 1-man Justice League (making his teammates seem redundant). Best to remove his super-speed, vision powers and Superman-level strength; emphasise the shapeshifting, phasing, invisibility and telepathy, which distinguish him from Superman.

A Green Lantern/Sinestro movie would be wonderful :)

[giddy with excitement] It's only a matter of time!!!

~String

i was hoping for a "maximum carnage" tie in for the 2nd trilogy (which i believe they will make) at the end of the film....have cletus cassady being arrested at the scene, and have a bit of the alien drip onto him from on high....

wishful thinking, i suppose....its disappointing that they didnt make more of spiderman's greatest adversary (venom).

i was hoping for a "maximum carnage" tie in for the 2nd trilogy

Sorry, they've got to keep the kiddies' viewing tame. Filmmakers don't want litigation from concerned parents.

its disappointing that they didnt make more of spiderman's greatest adversary (venom).

I agree.

Sorry, they've got to keep the kiddies' viewing tame. Filmmakers don't want litigation from concerned parents.




its a shame, really. maximum carnage was one of the all time great storylines of spidey.

its a shame, really. maximum carnage was one of the all time great storylines of spidey.

Do you have a link to some synopsis of the storyline?

Slightly off topic, but I am giddy too :)

Kyle Raynor Green Lantern - suggested actor Rider Strong (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0835045/) (might need some training for the silver screen, but boy doesn't he have the look).

Michael Shanks (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0788218/) has the look as well, and a little more mature than Rider.

Maybe Johnny Depp for star power, not quite exactly the look, but way more experience to make up for it.

Jon Steward Green Lantern - very hard to pick :O
Noel Clarke (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0164929/) has the right look but the wrong accent :) - any suggestions?

I figure the purists would want a Hal Jordan Green Lantern though...which Johnny Depp can pull off as well.

Any suggestions for Sinestro??

Any suggestions for Sinestro??

Raul Julia. (Oh, that's right - he's DEAD.)

Andreas Katsulas. (B*gger, he's dead too!)

Dustin Hoffman, back in Hook style. Naah...

DJ Qualls? He's got the right ears and nose!

In an attempt to fix this derailing thread...Harry's unfortunate demise was due to his exhausted usage. As soon as he made that pact he was a dead man, what good is a bad guy that is teamed up with Spiderman? He can't stay with Spiderman as that would cause the viewers to demand more Goblin (No Double entendre for you!) and there would be less focus on Spiderman. If Harry turned evil again what would it be? A mutual agreement to perform criminal acts and then get predictably taken down by Spiderman only to end up in jail, escape and do it all over again? That old rinse and repeat has been used already with Superman and Lex Luthor. They did only what they could...Although if Harry had just left Spiderman to die...Besides I really want Harry's sky board, it's a gadgeteer's heaven! (adds word to dictionary)

LOL derailing thread :)

Well, this is the problem faced when TV series transitions to the silver screen...continuity. The Batman producers have known this, that's why movies don't have Ra's, Joker, Ivy or Two Face anymore. The only rinse and repeat they can do is Riddler really.

With Goblin though, having teamed up with Spidey, that indeed removes star power from "Spiderman". They either had to make Goblin leave the country for some reason or die. Killing him off in a heroic effort is much better.

Dear all,

i saw spidey 3 at the cinema on Sunday and i really enjoyed it.

To be honest with these types of films i dont expect to much charcter development, i just want a no brainer action film, and thats what i got.

the effects were cool, the villians were cool, ok so it was a bit thrown together but who cares, i enjoyed it.

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take it ez
zak

The problem with Peter Parker is not that he did not love MJ or cared about her, but because his altered ego controlled his life and seeped into his personal life. Peter Parker was very creative in designing a spidey-suit for himself and giving a brandname to Spiderman, but he let his creation control him. This was evident when the Venom took over. After Peter Parker learned to control his emotions, everything returned to normal again. Instead of letting created things control us, we should go to the source and place the created things in its place - my two cents from this movie. Any comments? :)

Instead of letting created things control us, we should go to the source and place the created things in its place

It wasn't the suit controlling him though. It was an alien symbiote which had bonded with him, merely imitating the suit.

One could adjust your axiom and say "Instead of letting external influences control us, we should go to the source and place the external influence in its place..."