Zeno
06-01-08, 02:17 AM
We have the following situation:
(60 mph-->)---------------------------------------------(60mph--->)----------------(stationary)
(*)A1<------1275.030800821355 light-years--------->A2<----------1 light-hour----->B2
---B1
---(stationary)
We are viewing the situation from the B1-B2 frame of reference.
Observers A1 and A2 are in one frame of reference.
Observers B1 and B2 are in another frame of reference.
The frame with A1 and A2 is moving 60 mph relative to the frame containing B1 and B2.
A bright flash of light is emitted, when this occurs:
A2 is 1275.030800821355 light-years from the flash.
B2 is 1275.030914898471 light-years from the flash.
A2 is 1 light-hour from B2.
A1 and B1 are right next to each other and 10 ft. from the flash.
using 186,282 mps we get 670,615,200 mph.
gamma is 1/(1-(v^2/c^2))^0.5
so gamma is 1/(1-(60/670615200)^2)^0.5 = 0.99999999999999599755180446599128.
When A2 finally arrives at B2 after 1275.030800821355 years,
A2 witnesses the flash but B2 doesn't even though A2 and B2 are at the same spot.
B2 will witness the flash an hour later.
We have a paradox involving observers A2 and B2.
Maybe we can apply time dilation and B2's clock will slow down by an hour while A2
is travelling towards B2?
1275.030800821355*0.999999999999995997551804465991 28 = 1275.0308008213498968.
so the difference is
1275.030800821355-1275.0308008213498968 = 0.0000000000051032 years.
One second is 0.00000003168808781 years.
So the difference in time between the clock at A2 and the clock at B2 when A2 reaches
B2 will be much less than one second. Time dilation doesn't resolve the paradox.
Maybe the flash in B2's frame occurred an hour earlier than the flash in A2's frame so that
they will see the flash at the same time when A2 arrives at B2?
But if we do that we now have a paradox involving observers A1 and B1. B1 will witness the flash of light but A1 won't even though they are at the same spot. A1 will see the flash an hour after B1 does. Stuck once again.
A1 and A2 are in the same reference frame and B1 and B2 are in the same reference frame.
Therefore: time@A1 = time@A2 and time@B1 = time@B2
If the flash in the B1-B2 frame occurs an hour earlier than the A1-A2 frame we get a paradox involving observers A1 and B1.
if the flash in the B1-B2 frame occurs at the same time as in the A1-A2 frame we get a paradox involving observers A2 and B2.
The flash of light represents an event and all observers within the same inertial frame will agree as to the location and time of the event.
(60 mph-->)---------------------------------------------(60mph--->)----------------(stationary)
(*)A1<------1275.030800821355 light-years--------->A2<----------1 light-hour----->B2
---B1
---(stationary)
We are viewing the situation from the B1-B2 frame of reference.
Observers A1 and A2 are in one frame of reference.
Observers B1 and B2 are in another frame of reference.
The frame with A1 and A2 is moving 60 mph relative to the frame containing B1 and B2.
A bright flash of light is emitted, when this occurs:
A2 is 1275.030800821355 light-years from the flash.
B2 is 1275.030914898471 light-years from the flash.
A2 is 1 light-hour from B2.
A1 and B1 are right next to each other and 10 ft. from the flash.
using 186,282 mps we get 670,615,200 mph.
gamma is 1/(1-(v^2/c^2))^0.5
so gamma is 1/(1-(60/670615200)^2)^0.5 = 0.99999999999999599755180446599128.
When A2 finally arrives at B2 after 1275.030800821355 years,
A2 witnesses the flash but B2 doesn't even though A2 and B2 are at the same spot.
B2 will witness the flash an hour later.
We have a paradox involving observers A2 and B2.
Maybe we can apply time dilation and B2's clock will slow down by an hour while A2
is travelling towards B2?
1275.030800821355*0.999999999999995997551804465991 28 = 1275.0308008213498968.
so the difference is
1275.030800821355-1275.0308008213498968 = 0.0000000000051032 years.
One second is 0.00000003168808781 years.
So the difference in time between the clock at A2 and the clock at B2 when A2 reaches
B2 will be much less than one second. Time dilation doesn't resolve the paradox.
Maybe the flash in B2's frame occurred an hour earlier than the flash in A2's frame so that
they will see the flash at the same time when A2 arrives at B2?
But if we do that we now have a paradox involving observers A1 and B1. B1 will witness the flash of light but A1 won't even though they are at the same spot. A1 will see the flash an hour after B1 does. Stuck once again.
A1 and A2 are in the same reference frame and B1 and B2 are in the same reference frame.
Therefore: time@A1 = time@A2 and time@B1 = time@B2
If the flash in the B1-B2 frame occurs an hour earlier than the A1-A2 frame we get a paradox involving observers A1 and B1.
if the flash in the B1-B2 frame occurs at the same time as in the A1-A2 frame we get a paradox involving observers A2 and B2.
The flash of light represents an event and all observers within the same inertial frame will agree as to the location and time of the event.