lixluke
02-18-03, 10:08 PM
Can anybody give me a good website explaining the possible places in our soalr system for human colonization?
I know orbiting space stations, the moon, and mars are the greatest possibilities.
What outer planetary moons could humans possibly colonise?
Many people think venus wouldn't be worth colonizing, but I'm talking about far future technology.
Way down the line, using much more advanced technology, I'm sure humans would find venus easy to colonize.
I'm sure www.islandone.org (http://www.islandone.org) would have stuff like that.
Venus is a long term maybe...lots of problems to overcome. Mars is our practice for Venus. :)
Some of the outer moons might become colonies, especially if they are exporting things. Jupiter's moons are probably out though, unless we can develop very good shileding. I don't know about the other giants as far as their radiation.
The asteroid belt would likely be a big population area. Still near to the sun, and plenty of resources to mine, plus the land area would be tremendous...get a small one about a mile across, hollow it out, spin it up for gravity...I'd like it.
ElectricFetus
02-18-03, 11:06 PM
Jaxom you bet me to it!!!
Another good site that's a collection of links to various sources is www.permanent.com/ (http://www.permanent.com/) . I had thought they had disappeared, but I guess they were just redoing the site. It looks much better now than before.
Originally posted by cool skill
Can anybody give me a good website explaining the possible places in our soalr system for human colonization?
I know orbiting space stations, the moon, and mars are the greatest possibilities.
What outer planetary moons could humans possibly colonise?
Many people think venus wouldn't be worth colonizing, but I'm talking about far future technology.
Way down the line, using much more advanced technology, I'm sure humans would find venus easy to colonize.
Space exploitation. Sounds like fun. Jaxom said, "Mars is our practice for Venus." This is crap. Mars and Venus are completely different. Terraforming Mars would be millions of times easier than terraforming Venus, and would require a much different process. Unlike Mars, Venus has little to no H2O. Carl Sagan proposed to terraform Venus with aerial algae. According to Sagan, Venus could be cooled dispersing photosynthetic organisms in the atmosphere that could convert it from greenhousing CO2 tp transparent, and breathable, oxygen. But this would not work. To get rid of a molecule of CO2, suing photosynthesis, you need to use up a molcule of water. You would simply get rid of the small amount of water Venus retains while leaving the large bulk of the CO2 atmosphere basically untouched. Importing water isn't an option. It would require moving 92 million iceteroids, each with a mass of a billion tonnes.
The only way to cool Venus is to block the Sun with a huge Solar sail. If we were to make a sail twice the diameter of Venus out of aluminum .1 micron thick, 124 million tonnes of processed materials would be required, to which we would need to add several billion tonnes of ballast. It would be difficult, but not impossible. It would take 200 years to cool the planet to acceptable temperatres. But the planet would still be incredibly dry.
Titan would be a prime candidate for colonization, since it is a moon of saturn, which will be the first planet to be mined for it's He-3. Titan could quite easily be warmed up using soletta mirrors. However, stability would be a problem. As the ice melts, the water wants to find its way below the ice (there is probably already liquid water at depth). Water percolating through cracks would stress the ice crust, causing it to split and let the rest of the water rush down.
What I think we'd have to do is to bore holes through the ice crust at intervals to the deep ocean then fracture the crust into around twenty plates (perhaps using thermonuclear explosives, but probably by cutting channels, and allowing the meltwater to run off down the boreholes until the stress builds up enough to break the plates apart like a bar of chocolate).
Thereafter, the ice-continents should be stable enough for colonisation, probably using megastructures floating on lakes in the middle of the ice plains, thereby insulating them from further icequakes. There would also be mineral mines on the floor of the deep ocean. The ice continents would then melt from the top down, at a few inches a day, but it would be tens of thousands of years before they would disappear completely into the planetary ocean.
Io, and Europa obviously couldn't be colonized, but I have seen no reason for why Ganymede, and Callisto wouldn't. Afterall, they recieve very little radiation from Jupiter. A similar process to what happened on Titan would happen on these two moons. But I doubt Jupiter would ever be mined for it's He-2. Too much gravity.
I'm sure you all know the process Mars could be terraformed in, so I wont go into it.
Long term colonization without terraformation isn't practical, unless the body you are inhabiting is an asteriod. Asteroids are rich with minerals, and as Jaxom said, will have big populations. Lot's of money to be made...
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