One thing about Africa... that I think is centuries away from being dealt with effectivly... is corruption. Africa has to be the most notorious continent in the world for this.

The ANC (ruling party in South Africa) has recently held its internal elections (kinda like what Obama and Hillary are doing at the moment). Zuma beat out Mbeki, and all Zuma`s supporters got the National Executive Committee positions.

I thought I would give you a quick list of who made the NEC and their criminal records since the END of Apartheid.

1. Winnie Madikizela-Mandela
(Number 1 on the NEC: fraud and kidnapping)

2. Tony Yengeni
(Number 21: fraud)

3. Bathabile Dlamini
(Number 29: fraud)

4. Enoch Godongwana
(Number 34: drunk driving)

5. Ruth Bhengu
(Number 39: fraud)

6. Jackson Mthembu
(Number 58: contempt of court)

7. Ndleleni Duma
(Number 72: fraud)

8. Jacob Zuma
(ANC president: racketeering, corruption, money laundering and fraud)

9. Blade Nzimande
(Number 11: fraud)

10. Ngoako Ramatlhodi
(Number 20: corruption)

11. Billy Masetlha
(Number 28: fraud)

12. Nyami Booi
(Number 41: fraud)

13. Thaba Mufamadi
(Number 66: corruption)

14. Playfair Morule
(Number 71: culpable homicide)

Moved, resigned or disciplined

15. Jessie Duarte
(Number 6: resigned)

16. Angie Motshekga
(Number 32: disciplined)

17. Sibongile Manana
(Number 64: moved)

Under a cloud

18. Baleka Mbete
(Chairperson of the ANC: dodgy driver’s licence)

19. Malusi Gigaba
(Number 13: under departmental investigation)

20. Siphiwe Nyanda
(Number 22: arms deal discount)

21. Ncumisa Kondlo
(Number 50: corruption allegations)

22. Mathole Motshekga
(Number 53: corruption, fraud and nepotism)

23. David Mabuza
(Number 60: corruption allegations)

24. Joyce Mashamba
(Number 63: nepotism)

25. Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula
(Number 68: Travelgate repayments)

26. Sankie Mthembi-Mahanyele
(Number 8: investigation into housing tender)

27. Ayanda Dlodlo
(Number 47: fraud and theft)

28. Sicelo Shiceka
(Number 61: corruption)

The full list and details can be found here: http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=329910&area=/insight/insight__national/

So we will be a country completely run by criminals.

Isn't there also a saying about just wait till mandela dies?

Isn't there also a saying about just wait till mandela dies?

Uraban myth started by white wing conservatives trying to cause instability.

One thing about Africa... that I think is centuries away from being dealt with effectivly... is corruption. Africa has to be the most notorious continent in the world for this.

The ANC (ruling party in South Africa) has recently held its internal elections (kinda like what Obama and Hillary are doing at the moment). Zuma beat out Mbeki, and all Zuma`s supporters got the National Executive Committee positions.

I thought I would give you a quick list of who made the NEC and their criminal records since the END of Apartheid.



The full list and details can be found here: http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=329910&area=/insight/insight__national/

So we will be a country completely run by criminals.

REP. MARIO BIAGGI (D-NY): In 1988 he was convicted of obstructing justice, tax evasion, conspiracy, extortion, and accepting bribes.

CORRINNE BROWN (D-FL): Failed to pay unemployment taxes to the state of Florida; sued by several airlines for unpaid bills and falsified travel reports; failed to report sale of her Tallahassee travel agency; improperly reported the sale of her Gainesville travel agency; sued by Whirlpool Corp. for unpaid bills; pursued by the IRS for $14,228 in unpaid taxes; investigations by the House Ethics Committee for possible acceptance of bribes; refused to file reports in the House about potential conflicts of interest while overseeing airlines she dealt with through her travel agencies; charged with money laundering.

REP. ALBERT BUSTAMANTE (D-TX): Convicted in 1993 of racketeering and accepting an illegal gratuity.

TONY COELHO (D-CA): Currently under investigation for fraud while serving as U.S. Commissioner General of Expo '98 in Lisbon, Portugal.* He was Al Gore's primary presidential campaign manager until he resigned citing health reasons.

REP. WES COOLEY (R-OR): Convicted of falsifying VA loan applications. Paid $7,000 in fines plus court costs, and placed on probation. Subsequently tried to gather support to get re-elected to Congress.*

REP. JERRY COSTELLO (D-IL):

REP. BOB DORNAN (R-CA): In 1983 attempted to leave Grenada with a stolen AK-47. It was confiscated by the Army and destroyed.

REP. WALTER FAUNTROY (D-DC): Financial disclosure misdemeanor (1995).

REP. BARNEY FRANK (D-MA): Accessory to a male prostitute who ran a whorehouse in their Washington townhouse.

REP. NEWT GINGRICH (R-GA):

STATE REP. ALCEE L. HASTINGS (D-FL): From the 1998 Almanac of American Politics: "He was impeached by the House of Representatives by a vote of 426-3 in 1988 and convicted and removed from office by the Senate by a vote of 69-26. The impeachment arose from allegations that Hastings conspired with a friend to accept $150,000 for giving two convicted swindlers a break in sentencing. Hastings was acquitted in a criminal trial in 1983, but the friend was convicted. In the House, the case for impeachment was made by John Conyers, senior member of the Congressional Black Caucus. Removed from the bench, Hastings was unapologetic."

SEN. JESSE HELMS (R-NC): In 1990, the Helms campaign sent out 125,000 postcards primarily to black North Carolina voters claiming that they might not be able to vote, and would be prosecuted for vote fraud if they tried. His campaign, the North Carolina Republican party, and four consulting and marketing firms were charged with violations of the Voting Rights Act. The Helms campaign signed an admission of guilt (claiming later that they didn't have the money to fight it in court), but Helms and his staff were never prosecuted.

REP. CARROL HUBBARD (D-KY): Convicted in 1994 of misappropriation of funds.

JAY KIM (R-CA): Convicted of accepting illegal campaign contributions from foreign sources.

REP. GERALD KLECZKA (D-WI): Convicted of DUI in 1987; arrested for DUI in 1990 and 1995.

REP. JOE KOLTER (D-PA): Fraud and conspiracy (1996).

REP. NORMAN LENT (R-NY): In 1982 tried to have fifty counterfeit Rolex watches mailed to him from Taiwan.

REP. DONALD E. "BUZ" LUKENS (R-OH): In 1989 was convicted of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

REP. NICK MAVROULES (D-MA): In 1991 pleaded guilty to charges of bribery and tax evasion.

REP. EDWARD MEZVINSKY (D-IA): Indicted in March of 2001 on federal fraud charges. Claimed that he developed mental problems after using a malaria drug called Lariam. "Clearly, the responsibility lies with the manufacturers," claimed Mezvinsky's lawyer, Michael Barrett.*

REP. JAMES MORAN (D-VA): Charged with spousal abuse, and assault and battery. A regular instigator of bar fights while mayor of Alexandria, VA, his position made him immune to arrest. Once said he thought about becoming a boxer because "I like to hit people."

REP. AUSTIN J. MURPHY (D-PA): Vote fraud, including forgery, conspiracy, and tampering with federal records (1999).*

REP. MARY ROSE OAKAR (D-OH): Charged with seven federal felonies related to financial-disclosure irregularities (1998).

SEN. BOB PACKWOOD (R-OR): Charged with sexual harassment. Oddly enough, many of the women named as harassees defended Senator Packwood.

REP. CARL PERKINS (D-KY): In 1994 pleaded guilty to filing a false financial-disclosure statement, conspiracy to file false statements with the Federal Election Commission, and bank fraud. Sentenced in March of 1995.

REP. MEL REYNOLDS (D-IL): In 1995 was convicted of having sex with a minor and obstructing justice.

CHARLIE ROSE (D-NC): Financial disclosure irregularities (1994).

REP. DAN ROSTENKOWSKI (D-IL): Illegally converted official funds to his personal use and mail fraud; accused in 1996 of embezzling $700,000 from the federal government, he was charged with 13 of the original 17 counts against him. Went to prison after serving in Congress; now back in Washington working as a lobbyist.


REP. LARRY SMITH (D-FL): In 1993 was convicted of income tax evasion and campaign-reporting violations.

REP. PAT SWINDALL (R-GA): In 1988 was convicted of perjury.

REP. JIM TRAFICANT (D-OH): Indicted on 5/4/01 by a Cleveland, OH federal grand jury for bribery, tax evasion, racketeering, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice. Found guilty of all charges in April 2002.

REP. WALTER TUCKER (D-CA): Federal extortion charges; convicted of accepting $30,000 worth of bribes while a Congressman, and sentenced to 27 months in the federal penitentiary.


REP. J.C. WATTS (R-OK):

CHARLES WILSON (D-TX): In 1995 was forced to pay a $90,000 fine to the Federal Election Commission.

Number of members of Congress who escaped tickets and/or arrest from a variety of driving offenses ranging from speeding to DUI in 1999 due to Congressional immunity: 217

Number of members of Congress who were released after being pulled over for drunken driving in 1998 by claiming Congressional immunity: 84

http://www.wwco.com/~dda/criminals.php


Don't worry, South Africa isn't alone.

United States...... has been run by criminals for the past 7+ years.

more like past 7+ decades...

Wasnt it founded by criminals?

more like past 7+ decades...

I completely agree.

But this Admin doesn't even try to hide it anymore. Yet the public STILL doesn't seem to care.

"But this Admin doesn't even try to hide it anymore. Yet the public STILL doesn't seem to care."


What criminal activities is the present administration guilty of?

Don't go telling me they started an illegal war for oil because that is simply opinion.

Enumerate the thefts, frauds, perjuries, etc., you know the actual criminal acts and not just the areas in which you disagree with them.

[QUOTE=Till Eulenspiegel;1716834What criminal activities is the present administration guilty of?[/QUOTE]

This has to be a rhetorical question... ? :confused: