Here's what republicans said about Kosovo "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." --Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) Here's what Republicans said about Clinton and Kosovo Why did they second-guess our commitment to freedom from genocide and demand that we cut and run? "President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation's armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy." -Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) "No goal, no objective, not until we have those things and a compelling case is made, then I say, back out of it, because innocent people are going to die for nothing. That's why I'm against it." -Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/5/99 "American foreign policy is now one huge big mystery. Simply put, the administration is trying to lead the world with a feel-good foreign policy." -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) "If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." -Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush Why did they demoralize our brave men and women in uniform? "I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning...I didn't think we had done enough in the diplomatic area." -Senator Trent Lott (R-MS) "You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo." -Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99 "Well, I just think it's a bad idea. What's going to happen is they're going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years" -Joe Scarborough (R-FL) "I'm on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we're running out of cruise missles. I can't tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we're almost out of cruise missles." -Senator Inhofe (R-OK ) "I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarifiedrules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today" -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) "I don't know that Milosevic will ever raise a white flag" -Senator Don Nickles (R-OK) "Explain to the mothers and fathers of American servicemen that may come home in body bags why their son or daughter have to give up their life?" -Sean Hannity, Fox News, 4/6/99 Why didn't they support our president in a time of war? "Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) "This is President Clinton's war, and when he falls flat on his face, that's his problem." -Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN) "The two powers that have ICBMs that can reach the United States are Russia and China. Here we go in. We're taking on not just Milosevic. We can't just say, 'that little guy, we can whip him.' We have these two other powers that have missiles that can reach us, and we have zero defense thanks to this president." -Senator James Inhofe (R-OK) "You can support the troops but not the president" -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) "My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they're made ... not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do." -Senator Trent Lott (R-MS) For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce" -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) Why did they blame America first? Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly." -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) "Once the bombing commenced, I think then Milosevic unleashed his forces, and then that's when the slaughtering and the massive ethnic cleansing really started" -Senator Don Nickles (R-OK) " Clinton's bombing campaign has caused all of these problems to explode" -Representative Tom Delay (R-TX) "America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country" -Pat Buchanan (R) "These international war criminals were led by Gen. Wesley Clark ...who clicked his shiny heels for the commander-in-grief, Bill Clinton." -Michael Savage "This has been an unmitigated disaster ... Ask the Chinese embassy. Ask all the people in Belgrade that we've killed. Ask the refugees that we've killed. Ask the people in nursing homes. Ask the people in hospitals." -Representative Joe Scarborough (R-FL) "It is a remarkable spectacle to see the Clinton Administration and NATO taking over from the Soviet Union the role of sponsoring "wars of national liberation." -Representative Helen Chenoweth (R-ID) "America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of their own country" -Pat Buchanan (R ) "By the order to launch air strikes against Serbia, NATO and President Clinton have entered uncharted territory in mankind's history. Not even Hitler's grab of the Sudetenland in the 1930s, which eventually led to WW II, ranks as a comparable travesty. For, there are no American interests whatsoever that the NATO bombing will either help, or protect; only needless risks to which it exposes the American soldiers and assets, not to mention the victims on the ground in Serbia." -Bob Djurdjevic, founder of Truth in Media
So, I'm curious .....what was our exit strategy for World War II in Europe? And when was it publicized to the public? In fact, when was it ever even mentioned in history. Baron Max
Once again Baron Max you have taken two things that are nearly the exact opposite of each other and compared them together. While not addressing at least one part of my post GENIUS!
Hah, great quotes mikasa11. Very very ironic isnt it? If you saw those quotes by themselves, without any reference to who said it and what it was alluding to, you would certainly assume they were talking about the war in Iraq. Hypocrisy is aboud in Washington, and even I needed a reminder.
Just exactly how are these two things " nearly the exact opposte" of each other? Well gee,,, I guess they are not.
The axis started the war. We were then attacked then entered the war. The world needed our help to survive and without it there may not be a world today. World War II was a war that if the United States was in things would have been a lot worse in the world. In the Iraq war if the United States did not invade the world would be a safer place.
do u honestly thin it would be safer? do you? do you honestly think that saddams and uday's hatred for their own people would be safe? if u think im a puppet of bush, what do you think of the Hussein's and their people? you no what you said was a very stupid remark. ok, you have a bone to pick with good ol georgie... yet how does that effect the Hussein's reign? you want me to tell you? probably not, but o well The Hussein's "dictatorship" i think im giving them credit by just calling it that, but they slaughtered more people than Hitler. and in case you didnt know, Hitlers SS killed 6 million people in the holocaust alone. And heres another fact, they killed more people than Hitler AND Gengis Khan put together. still sold on the "safer" issue? well now that Uday, Qusay, and soon-to-be Saddam are exucted, you want to say that it is now safer? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! probably not because your sold on stubborness, yet all i am here to do is offer facts and opinions.
Could you even try to post something relevent? Or useful? Or intelligent? Or hell, just anything that's not slack-jawed stupid?
And the terrorists started this one. The whole world still needs our help and without it what do you think the world would become? Terrorists bombing with no fear of reprisal? world anarchy? yeah, you've got it all figured out Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Funny how Baron and Mr.Jack seem to be dodging the hypocrisy of those quotes. And yes, I know the democrats do it too, and in equal amount. But I don't see how you can defend those quotes at all. If they can be, please tell me how, and quit dodging it.
what? i havnt been "quote dodging" and plus baron hates bush Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Ah does he now? Still, can anyone please show how these people like Santorum and Lott can hold the opinions they have now and have said the exact opposite just a few years earlier? It just baffles me that they slam Clinton for not having an exist strategy, yet here were are today bogged down in Iraq!
I'm curious. How many people DID Genghis Khan kill? Honestly, I AM curious. Genghis is one of my favorite people from history to learn about. How many people did Sadam and his sons kill? Can you please cite a source for both numbers? (I assume you can, since you referred to it as a "fact".)
The highest I've found is that saddam killed a little over 200,000. Hitler killed 20,000,000 in Russia alone. Sorry Jack but don't say things about stuff you don't know.
From what I have read Genghis Khan is estimated to have killed more than 50 million people. World population then was estimated to be about 400 million people. That's a LOT of people. I think he holds the record, in fact.
Yes i do. I believe that Saddam posed a much less threat to the world than these new terrorists that are being created. Yes Saddam did kill 200,000 of his people, however Bush killed 100,000 iraqis in 3 YEARS! IN TEN TIMES LESS TIME!
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CIA Analyst expert Michael Schuer 21 years experience with the CIA; 10 years on al-qaida. SCHEUER: No, ma‘am. The war in Iraq has broken the back of our counterterrorism effort. I‘m not an expert on the threat posed by Saddam Hussein, but the invasion of Iraq has made sure this war will last decades ahead and it has transferred bin Laden and al Qaeda from being man and an organization into being a philosophy and a movement. We‘ve really made sure that the war against us is going to be a long and very bloody one. Iraq was an absolutely disastrous decision. (Interview with Norah O' Donnell)
Alright, I'll try, just for you dufus. Let's see. What's the name of this particular thread that I suscribe to, of so many? "What's it going to be president?" Well, I think dufus, that you have nothing to say. Can you honestly read any of the quotes in the op and not see the similarities, no, the striking sameness, between what Tom Delay, Pat Robertson et. al said about Clinton's involvement, and thus our involvement, in Bosnia in the late 90's with what democrats say today about Bush's, and thus our, involvement in Iraq? Before I tear you a new one, what does this mean to you? You have said very little that is either constructive or critical about the matter, or any matter, from what I have seen. What do these almost identical remarks from either the right or the left, about two different wars, mean to you?
