Slowest boot-up in history!

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  1. thecurly1 Registered Senior Member

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    My computer is booting up ultra slow... taking like 5 whole minute to even get to the desktop and then time afterwards to load icons. I'm damn near positive I have spyware and my anti-virus software has found a virus or two but can't delete them.

    Can anyone suggest some free software to rid me of both problems, if not just give it to me?

    I can give you my AIM handel if need be.

    Thanks guys.
     
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  3. cookiedude Registered Member

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    Hmm... that sure does sound like you have a virus and/or spyware. That may not be the cause, but you could try a free virus scan at www.symantec.com or www.mcaffe.com to start. You could also check the add/remove programs menu if you have windows. If there's a suspicious program there and you can't delete it there's a good chance that it may be spyware.
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Sounds like my computer, but that's because I only have a Pentium II.
     
  8. Voodoo Child Registered Senior Member

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    You might want to try turning off the Background Intelligent Transfer Service and seeing if that helps.
    It's in serivces in Administrative tools. Hit disable.
     
  9. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    Why the hell should any operating system take any time to boot? I miss DOS.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    You could have alot of startup programs running also, have you checked to see what's opening when you boot up? Hit start/run/msconfig then ok. Look at the top of the window and go to "startup" to find what's running. Shut everything off except scan registry. Then shut it down and boot it again to see if that helps. Then go back in to the msconfig and put in one program at a time to see when the amount of startup programs interfers ith normal booting up. You won't know until you do it one program at a time. Good luck.
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I agree. Surely Windows could be streamlined. The code must be an absolute mess.
     
  12. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Well it's not just the code being a mess, it's the aspect of how GUI's work, and how programming an image or Desktop to display is done.

    It all involves the use of Buffers, which means your systems resources are split between the buffers. What the buffers do is allow the image to be composed on a "Backbuffer" before it's brought to the buffer you see with.

    This means the more intense the graphics displayed on the OS, the longer amount of time it takes to create the images (BMP rasters). It also is a problem if people have a low amount of RAM because the system has to Write some information to the backbuffer, move it to the front, purge the backbuffer and write more to it.

    Admittedly it would have been useful to have a method to tweak the Buffer sizes of windows, then you could enhance the performance based upon your system specifications.

    The other well known problem is CPU speed, if the CPU cycles slowly, then your going to end up taking a while transfering all the information between the buffers too.

    I would suggest if your running XP, go through your settings and remove all the extra trimmings that the system has by default (Use windows Classic it removes extra bmp's that are used to "Edge" the bars etc)
    Don't use large Bitmaps as descktop background images (Since the system has got to write that backwards and forwards to make it display.)

    Even adjusting your display settings to display a lower size than your graphics cards full size will also enhance performance (Less pixels for the system to address, which inturn means less RAM usage and less CPU strain)

    Hope that helps if you don't find any adware onboard.
     
  13. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    It once took me 3 days for my computer (in raid bios) to synch up two drives after that I decided that LSI PCI SATA150 RAID Cards are total crap and should not be bought by anyone! (All this happened after I had to get the first one I bought replace after it broke!)
     
  14. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    it could also be something as simple as your disk starting to fail, cluster error/bad sector what ever you prefere.
    one of then can be fixed, both can cause "random" slow downs when accesssing data
     
  15. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    I always use hibernate instead of shutdown , boots up the full desktop with my fav progs opened within 30 seconds, now if I had one of those expensive solid state disks to save the hibernation file it would be like instant-on, wich I think we all deserve by now.
     
  16. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Do these in these steps:
    1) Uninstall every program you do not use anyway and plan on not using
    2) Clear out your IE cache directory
    3) Scan for viruses
    4) Burn some things to CD (like movies, music, etc)
    5a)Download a program called "Spy Bot: Search and Destroy"
    5b)Run that... (make sure you download the update files to ensure you get the latest list of spyware)
    6) Run defrag

    If that does not work... reinstall windows. If that does not help... either downgrade windows, upgrade the hardware on your system, or buy a new system.

    Hope this helps.
     
  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I guess curly1 has had a crash for he/she hasn't been back since that first post.
     
  18. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Fdisk is a great freeware program to rid your computer of spyware adware viri and anything else that might be slowing it down. Heh that's what I usualy use to enhance preformance, ever six months or so. Burn everything worth saving to CDs and then go ahead and just format your drives! Another thing that might help is hooking up another Hard drive, moving everything worth saving to the new drive, then formating and re-installing your OS on the old drive. . . makes things quick and simple. A nice regular cyber enima now and again reall helps to keep your system running clean!
     
  19. thecurly1 Registered Senior Member

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    I hadn't seen any of these wonderful posts since they've been posted. My computer is working better, but still boots up ultra-slow. I'll put some of these to use....

    Thanks a lot guys.
     
  20. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    I still don’t understand why a OS should take so long to boot. What difference should it make how many programs (or even how much junk) you have on your computer? If I have no intent on using MS Word or Photoshop, why should they slow down the OS boot process? And really, how much CPU power and memory do you really need to display a few icons on your screen? An operating system is nothing - nothing but simply an OPERATING system. I’ll accept the fact that Win2000 takes up 1 GB of my valuable (and ancient) 3GB HD space – even though 1GB is a hell of a lot of space required for any OS. Why shouldn’t Win XP run on even the slowest and oldest “resource challenged” computers?
     
  21. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    You just have to remember that Simple operating systems would be those Commandline ones like DOS, UNIX and Linux, where they hardly eat any resources without GUI being present.

    However when you start loading large images, alot of colours etc the whole mechanics of getting it to show something on the screen differs, which causes it to slow down.
    (Thats why you couldn't run XP on a P1 100Mhz system, as it would be so slow from having too much information trying to queue itself through the processors Idle Cycle process.)

    Another factor is that original GUI's used Double-Buffering to get images to preload/build before being shown, but with the new types of graphics languages the number of buffers can be increased, which causes a kind of Schizophrenic programmatic fight for supremacy among the programs that are trying to run on a computer.
     
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