So.
Skinwalker's now a religion mod?
Heh.
I mean. The guy is pretty smart. But way too obsessed with religion for his own good.

Skinwalker,

How do you find the time to ever actually study any anthropology when you're always so focused on bashing god-kissers and pseudos? For Moloch's sake, go dig up some old bones or something. Maybe Ian Hodder would let you on his dig team for the 2007 year. Now that would be productive.

LOL... I actually let my 5 year-old do most of the debunking by logging in as me while I'm at school and work :cool:

Seriously, though, I don't know if you've noticed or not, but my posts have slowed considerably over the years... I post less, but try to substitute quality for quantity now... I actually read a lot more than I post in about four or five of the forums here, particularly the Religion one.

For those who consider me a "basher," I pledge not to allow my bashing interfere with my objectivity when it comes to moderating.

Oh my 'GOD' Skin is religion MOD

that's like making Hitler peacekeeper of Israel

Perhaps it is a cunning plan, putting one of the most abusive posters in religion forum in charge may keep him under control? Like giving a bully 'prefect' job at school. Interesting watching how that unfolds.

Why didn't i receive a PM yet that I have been made mod of biology and WEP?

Most have gotten lost in the mail.

Oh my 'GOD' Skin is religion MOD

that's like making Hitler peacekeeper of Israel

Perhaps it is a cunning plan, putting one of the most abusive posters in religion forum in charge may keep him under control? Like giving a bully 'prefect' job at school. Interesting watching how that unfolds.

Yes, it's all a conspiracy to get ToR.

Yes, it's all a conspiracy to get ToR.

wouldn't I need to post there regularly to be 'got'

wouldn't I need to post there regularly to be 'got'

I'm sure you'll find a way to complain about someone or something, like your post above, for example.

I'm sure you'll find a way to complain about someone or something, like your post above, for example.


Odd - what complaint?

Please copy and paste the 'one above' that you refer to, I see in my post only a humorous response to a 'complaint' already made by Invert. Oh I forgot, you had a sense of humour bypass.

Meanwhile, Invert began this thread 'complaining' (if that is what you choose to call it)about the promotion of an ardent athiest to mod postition, yet the only person you respond to is mE?

Still obsessed I see. Nice

I'm sure you'll find a way to complain about someone or something, like your post above, for example.


Odd - what complaint?

Please copy and paste the 'one above' that you refer to, I see in my post only a humorous response to a 'complaint' already made by Invert. Oh I forgot, you had a sense of humour bypass.

Meanwhile, Invert began this thread 'complaining' (if that is what you choose to call it)about the promotion of an ardent athiest to mod postition, yet the only person you respond to is mE?

Still obsessed I see. Nice

You scared of challenging Invert Q?

Meanwhile, Invert began this thread 'complaining' (if that is what you choose to call it)about the promotion of an ardent athiest to mod postition

I certainly wouldn't call it complaining. On the contrary, I was merely making a note of the promotion and offering my personal opinion and advice to someone whom I respect.

The precedent for the religion, pseudoscience, and parapsychology subforums in this forum being mostly a lure to attract the god-kisssers and pseudos for the debunkers to bash is well established in my opinion. That's not really the issue.

What is an issue, to me, is that it's just such a waste of time.

I can understand an interest in religion and what makes people fall prey to its fallacies. But what the debunkers do goes beyond observation and goes deep into active cooperation with the very thing they hate so much. Their passion for the subject embeds them into the very fabric.

They cannot observe. They cannot study. Instead, they attempt to save the religious from themselves. They try to argue them out of their beliefs. They try to shame them out of their beliefs. They try every trick in the book, really.

But for what purpose?
How many have been 'saved' in this manner?
Southstar. That's about it. And he was young.
The rest only become more and more entrenched in their belief. The more opposition they receive, the more strength is derived from their faith.
It's in the nature of the beast.

And they (the debunkers) should realize this. And yet, they are unable to prevent themselves from furthering the very thing which they find so distasteful and dangerous.


I'd love for Skinwalker to take a season or two to dig at Catalhoyuk. And to bring back stories of his time there.

An understanding of man is what is sought.
And yet, one is so easily sidetracked.
I know, I was originally drawn to this site in the very capacity which I am now ... debunking. (Muaha!)
I used to spend a goodly portion of time smacking god-kissers around. Such a waste of time and energy.

yet the only person you respond to is mE?

Still obsessed I see. Nice

He definitely has a soft spot in his heart for you. I bet he has a link to your profile in his bookmarks so that he can quickly check to see if you've posted since the last time he's been on.

Wasn't 'medicin woman' converted too`?

He definitely has a soft spot in his heart for you. I bet he has a link to your profile in his bookmarks so that he can quickly check to see if you've posted since the last time he's been on.

lol

Wasn't 'medicin woman' converted too`?

I think she fell from faith long before she came here. I guess I can't be sure about though. If her conversion did take place here, then it was before my time. She was well entrenched in her own style of debunking by the time I arrived on the scene.

(Heh. Speaking of her debunking. It's interesting to observe how she, a debunker, is also debunked because her new beliefs are still very controversial compared the mainstream. I guess she'd be classified as a pseudo?)

In one way ToR wouldn't actually be a bad choice for a mod. She has some of the Xev qualities. A high drama content. Sciforums always had a mix of dry and drama mods. The drama mods keep the attention away from the dry mods who then can do their work.

That said, she hasn't been here that long yet. She could pull an electric fetus on us. And xev was quite knowledgable in the field of her subforum. That would make it tricky to find a proper space for ToR (no offense intended). Freethought could be an option of course. Or the about the members subforums.

That said, there is the major shadow of stability looming as a possible no. We have seen some flame wars escalate already (and don't we just LOVE it!).

She needs a bit more time. To settle in properly.

That said if we want some action let's make her a supermod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAYAAY

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The precedent for the religion, pseudoscience, and parapsychology subforums in this forum being mostly a lure to attract the god-kisssers and pseudos for the debunkers to bash is well established in my opinion.


Interesting, this had not occurred to me. They are taking the lambs to their slaughter, except these lambs are more like Bulls and ain't goin' nowhere.

The convertee's were however 'sheep' following whoever appears to be leading the 'herd'.

I think dangerous beliefs which result in harm to others physcial or otherwise should be brought up to date in terms of what is acceptable in the modern world but 'belief' itself has a place in terms of the peace it can bring to those dying, grieving the death of loved ones etc. I don't think anyone has the right to seek to remove this type of comfort and it is cruel of them to try. To succeed would only induce a misery which may otherwise not exist so extremely in those scenarios.

I think she fell from faith long before she came here. I guess I can't be sure about though. If her conversion did take place here, then it was before my time. She was well entrenched in her own style of debunking by the time I arrived on the scene.

(Heh. Speaking of her debunking. It's interesting to observe how she, a debunker, is also debunked because her new beliefs are still very controversial compared the mainstream. I guess she'd be classified as a pseudo?)

Well, I found jesus here. I used to be an atheist. But it just feels right to look up to jesus and see he is not wearing underwear!

In one way ToR wouldn't actually be a bad choice for a mod. She has some of the Xev qualities. A high drama content. Sciforums always had a mix of dry and drama mods. The drama mods keep the attention away from the dry mods who then can do their work.

That said, she hasn't been here that long yet. She could pull an electric fetus on us. And xev was quite knowledgable in the field of her subforum. That would make it tricky to find a proper space for ToR (no offense intended). Freethought could be an option of course. Or the about the members subforums.

That said, there is the major shadow of stability looming as a possible no. We have seen some flame wars escalate already (and don't we just LOVE it!).

She needs a bit more time. To settle in properly.

That said if we want some action let's make her a supermod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAYAAY


:bugeye: I have my eye on you

Meanwhile, don't mods have to read threads and posts

I know I appear to do so, due to my high post count, but that can easily happen in the space of 20 minutes of frenzied typing in chat mode, I rarely sit here reading stuff and even then just skim.

I could always create a NEW forum where I limited the size of the post, to say 10 lines max, and just delete everyone that I find boring, save me having to read and moderate their posts. Yep could be do-able with a few admin changes. Of course I'd need the freedom to ban with out having to explain my reasons.

Let's see the new forum could be called ...."No bollocks here" ...it could be a challenge forum, any poster lasting three successive posts has ToR approval, others get booted out for being dull. Those that last and last of course get elevated to super interesting status.

Meanwhile, don't mods have to read threads and posts

I think so.

I think she fell from faith long before she came here. I guess I can't be sure about though. If her conversion did take place here, then it was before my time. She was well entrenched in her own style of debunking by the time I arrived on the scene.

(Heh. Speaking of her debunking. It's interesting to observe how she, a debunker, is also debunked because her new beliefs are still very controversial compared the mainstream. I guess she'd be classified as a pseudo?)


She has NEW Age religion, she diverts attention by Christian bashing, but a sheep is always a sheep, just changing who they choose to follow is all.

Isn't skinwalker going to be too busy moderating two different forums´?
http://www.thescienceforum.com/groupcp.php?g=126&sid=9101ead0830950d5fd7983c04af7181e

Isn't skinwalker going to be too busy moderating two different forums´?
http://www.thescienceforum.com/groupcp.php?g=126&sid=9101ead0830950d5fd7983c04af7181e


No doubt part of the resume he submitted in application for the post or perhaps he was approached?

Skin, how did you get the mod job?

Actually, I now moderate in three forums. I got 'em all on speed-dial.

Skin, how did you get the mod job?

I think I may have answered Stryder's questions right in his quiz thread. But I'm hurt. Do you really find me "abusive?"

I think I may have answered Stryder's questions right in his quiz thread.

Interesting.
You really think there is a 'right' answer to such ethical dilemma's?

I think I was being elusive with a touch of sarcasm. :cool:

I think I may have answered Stryder's questions right in his quiz thread. But I'm hurt. Do you really find me "abusive?"

ok then lets see what you wrote: RED is my comment

I posted this without reading other replies first to avoid being influenced, so if I duplicated someone else's response...


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
1:
Two older member posters are busy arguing abusively with one another causing the initial thread to divert from topic. They've posted about 20 posts since you last logged in, what should you do to the thread in your subforum? ”

Easy. As long as their "abusive arguments" aren't actually rules violations, split the thread. Let them have their fun in a separate, more appropriate topic; let the OP have his topic as intended.

I have not been aware of any thread splitting here? The thread just gets derailed and there is no moderation unless as you say rules are broken and even then action is only taken against someone unpopular with mods already. Everyone else can do as they please. Isn't thus the answer based on current practice to do nowt.

Myself I would delete all ad hom flames and tell the two involved to 'get a room' ie pm.

“ Originally Posted by Stryder
2:
A Poster keeps refering to their website creating an unofficial "signature", there site is neither on the topic of the thread and contains so many fictional statements and evidence inconsistancies that it's not what you'd class as a place to source evidence from. ”

The poster's right to free speech should be encouraged. As long as the link isn't to something illegal or pornographic (or some other clear rule violation) and the poster is not simply spamming his link without actually participating in the topic's discussion, he should be allowed the link. Unless such links are clearly noted at some point in the rules as violations. On the other hand, if the posts are off topic, they should be treated like any other off topic post: spam deleted; new topics split if there's potential.

They don't allow signatures here, so again not reflective of current practice. I support no signatures ie: no crap after posts, there is enough crap in the posts without repetative garbage to look at.


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
Their continued persistancy is starting to upset other members, which in turn are biting at them and causing the threads to read like an excert from "Flamewars". What should you do? ”

Enforce rules about "flaming" and "insults." At this point, the problem isn't so much the link as it is the responses. Often, a firm but courteous message from the moderator in thread along with a bit of clean up of insults is all that's needed to redirect the thread.


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
3:
A poster has been banned by one of the supermoderators or administrator and what is seemingly a new user is complaining about the injustices of their decision and is harassing other members in regards to the part they think they played. Their rants are enducing the multiple threads they've cross-posted to to be littered with members degrading to personally attacking them. Again, what should you do? ”

If the IP checks out to the banned member, the choice is obvious: ban the new sock puppet. If not, then appropriate warnings to the members that are violating rules is in order, both via PM and in-thread. If a post is off the OP's topic and only a flame/harassment, I see no reason why it cannot be deleted. Or portions that of posts that are on-topic kept and personal insults and flames deleted. That's not to say that ridicule and insults shouldn't be tolerated on some level... if someone starts a thread that "proves" Elvis and Bigfoot are the leaders of the Illuminati and are the real masterminds behind 9/11, shouldn't there be some bit of ridicule?


I agree with most of this but would add: why is this person complaining about someone elses ban? Do they have good reason, has the mod been operating with bias. People don't complain without reason. The mod should address the problem directly if it relates to their decision rather than allow the rest of the forum to answer for them. Cowardly practice to stay quiet. Once the mod has answered and the person has responded accordingly. The mod can close the debate, lock the thread. Personal 'attacks' should be deleted always. If the thread is a full on attack on one person there is only one person responsible and that is the moderator for allowing it to go on for several posts. They have power to delete and lock threads out of control and serving no purpose. .


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
4:
the poster <fakehandle> has been posting advertisment about a wonder pill, with links to an associated site that loads spyware on peoples computers through a particular browser flaw (Which you don't actually have while using firefox). You've notice the post is in your subforum while also occuring in other subforums (which you don't have any control over) what do you do? ”

Delete/remove the posts (move them to a moderator level forum where they can be reviewed if such a thing exists) and contact an administrator/moderator with permissions to the forum where the links still exist to alert them of the problem.

agreed

“ Originally Posted by Stryder
5:
You've noticed a user has been using a 0-day exploit on the forums that the Administration isn't even aware of yet. You've checked out their IP and it points to the United Arab Emirates, even though the User claims to be a member of a Kuwait hacking group. Temperments are Rising in the forums in regards to the Kuwaitee's attempt at sabotaging the forum (racism etc), even though there is a potential that it's just been setup to look like they are from Kuwait. What do you do? ”

Alert an administrator/super-moderator for a ban request or to fix the user's account to eliminate the exploit. Regardless of the user's intent, if its a rules violation and bannable, he should be banned. One member shouldn't be permitted to drive away many members because of behavior.

agreed


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
6:
You've received multiple e-mails implying that one particular thread in filled with "Ad-Homin" statements. To the most part the makeup of the whole thread has gone un-noticed due to the "Word Wall" that seems impenatrable by your powers of deduction. (Lots of words with little meaning that seem gruelsome to wade through.) The threads initial post on page 1 has long since lost since page 3, and it's now reached a staggering page 23 of flaming. What do you do? ”

Split the thread at page three; lock pages four through 23; warn the violators. Better yet, don't let it get that far.

you say 'don't let ig get that far', agreed, if you are absent when it starts, delete the entire thread. Easier for you, saves your time reading through 'word wall' No soft ball allowed, when posters find all their posts disappearing they'll learn to moderate themselves and each other!


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
7:
There is a topical thread placed into your subforum to which you have a specific point of view on. Your point of view however conflicts with most of the posts recieved on the topic, making you one of the few to have a certain view opposed to everyone else. What shouldn't you do? ”

1) You should not decide sharing your personal opinions for fear of the side you oppose might call you a "biased moderator" when you need to enforce the rules. 2) You shouldn't be afraid to enforce the rules when the opposing opinion is apt to use the "bias moderator" argument. 3) You shouldn't fail to enforce rules when it comes to moderating comments made by members/posters on the same side of the argument as you.

At the end of the day, you are both poster and moderator. You have both opinions and a job to do.

AND you should refrain from ad homs yourself as it abuses power and posters do not have the option of putting you on ignore, if you must post as a mod, keep it respectable as you are representing the forum and should be setting a standard for others to follow.


“ Originally Posted by Stryder
8:
You are recieving complaints about one person in particular from a poster that you know to be a bit of a trouble maker themselves. They complain about harassing PMs (Private messages) they have recieved and quote you a few. what should you do? ”

They deserve fairness and impartiality and to have the same protection of the rules that they may have violated previously. I don't see why this is even a question. You deal with the complaint as you would any other

agreed

we mostly agree

No doubt you will make a good mod, as long as you don't operate with bias and do not ad hom posters . You would not be my choice of mod for religion forum. I think a mod should have respect for the forum and the posters they are moderating.

Hey skin! Congratulations.. :D

Hope you have fun hehehe.. I promise to try and play nice in there :p

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ToR..

:rolleyes: ..

Can't you just say 'congrats' and be done with it? For goodness sake woman, your petty jealousy is showing. Who cares what you think of his answers? This thread is not about you.. it's about Skin. If you soooo want to be a mod that much, then answer stryders questions in the thread they are meant to be answered in and then wait in vain for that position. Hijacking another's thread and stating your opinions to his answers and how you'd handle it differently not only makes you look petty, but it also shows a level of jealousy not seen for a long time around here. Christ, the day you are made a mod is the day this forum goes to the dogs..

Can you imagine being moderated by ToR? I mean having her edit your posts and reprimand you?
*shudder*

Hey skin! Congratulations..

Hope you have fun hehehe.. I promise to try and play nice in there

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ToR..

..

Can't you just say 'congrats' and be done with it? For goodness sake woman, your petty jealousy is showing. Who cares what you think of his answers? This thread is not about you.. it's about Skin. If you soooo want to be a mod that much, then answer stryders questions in the thread they are meant to be answered in and then wait in vain for that position. Hijacking another's thread and stating your opinions to his answers and how you'd handle it differently not only makes you look petty, but it also shows a level of jealousy not seen for a long time around here. Christ, the day you are made a mod is the day this forum goes to the dogs..

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Can you imagine being moderated by ToR? I mean having her edit your posts and reprimand you?
*shudder*
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Can't you just say 'congrats' and be done with it? For goodness sake woman, your petty jealousy is showing. Who cares what you think of his answers? :Can't someone have an opinion? I thought sciforums was pretty much only about petty jealousies. Who cares what you think of her responses to his answers?

Ptchahh!

Cut and pasted.

Huh?

I cut and pasted everything I wrote from the 2 people above me, but her jealously was pretty clear to me.

Skinwalker being given a position of moderator was due to a nomination what increased his acceptance was the fact that he is an active member and he is a proven moderator elsewhere.

I'm sure on occasion he's posted responses like many of you do that some would suggest are subjective, however those responses are usually to people that aren't about intellectual reasoning but more likely to be a sock puppet enducing flamedriven retorts.

None the less, I'm sure the administrators will be keeping an eye on his progress and those that of course attempt to make his position more difficult to uphold.

As for opinion's, feel free to have them but at least allow him the courtesy of being a moderator for a period before drawing any hastey conclusions about his abilities.

Skinwalker being given a position of moderator was due to a nomination what increased his acceptance was the fact that he is an active member and he is a proven moderator elsewhere.

I'm sure on occasion he's posted responses like many of you do that some would suggest are subjective, however those responses are usually to people that aren't about intellectual reasoning but more likely to be a sock puppet enducing flamedriven retorts.

None the less, I'm sure the administrators will be keeping an eye on his progress and those that of course attempt to make his position more difficult to uphold.

As for opinion's, feel free to have them but at least allow him the courtesy of being a moderator for a period before drawing any hastey conclusions about his abilities.

Has someone drawn a negative conclusion about his abilities?

I recall saying after reviewing his answers to your search for a mod that he'd make a good mod, just he wouldn't be my choice for religion forum.

[B]
we mostly agree

No doubt you will make a good mod, as long as you don't operate with bias and do not ad hom posters . You would not be my choice of mod for religion forum. I think a mod should have respect for the forum and the posters they are moderating. [/COLOR]

WHICH given the fact he has no respect for religion or religious people is fair comment. Do you deny that a moderator should have respect for the forum he moderates?

I can't imagine for example modertaing a forum for paedophiles and doing so with civility. It'll be intresting.

No one has drawn hasty conclsions re his abilities Stryder, commenting on the ethics of appointing him to this forum is entirely different.

Finally for the less intelligent members of this board who hang on my every word, may I point out that this thread was started by Invert and not I.

So.
Skinwalker's now a religion mod?
Heh.
I mean. The guy is pretty smart. But way too obsessed with religion for his own good.

Skinwalker,

How do you find the time to ever actually study any anthropology when you're always so focused on bashing god-kissers and pseudos? For Moloch's sake, go dig up some old bones or something. Maybe Ian Hodder would let you on his dig team for the 2007 year. Now that would be productive.

Should you less intelligent posters wish to respond to this be sure to get your pal to copy and paste again, being on ignore I don't see you. You may as well demonstrate your desperation for me to see you once again. I won't add anything more to this as I'm just not as interested in you as you are in me.

Finally stryder, some here seem to think I want to be a mod. I do not. But then you know that already don't you.

I credit with you the intelligence to note what the others have missed which is the complete absence of an application or request for the 'mod spot'. Responding to suggestions I be mod with sarcasm re what I'd do were I to be mod do not reflect a serious desire to be one. I do however recognise and indeed sympathise with those afflicited with low intelliegnce that misconstrue this type of humour.

Has someone drawn a negative conclusion about his abilities?

"that's like making Hitler peacekeeper of Israel

Perhaps it is a cunning plan, putting one of the most abusive posters in religion forum in charge may keep him under control? Like giving a bully 'prefect' job at school."

given the fact he has no respect for religion or religious people is fair comment.

On the contrary, I have high respect for religion and the religious. I base that respect on their cultural traditions and them as individuals. I don't, however, have respect for individuals that proclaim their religious cults as institutions that need to be imposed upon others; that their "facts" deserve the equality of science; that their gods have domain over me; that their superstitions should be allowed to oppress. I am critical of religious superstition, but I think fairly so.

Regardless of what my personal position is on religion, I still have a good understanding and an on-going education in religion from an anthropological perspective. And I would never let my personal opinion interfere with my willingness to moderate even those with whom I generally agree if they violate the rules.

SkinWalker replying to SkinWalker thread...kinda funny.

On the contrary, I have high respect for religion and the religious. I base that respect on their cultural traditions and them as individuals. I don't, however, have respect for individuals that proclaim their religious cults as institutions that need to be imposed upon others; that their "facts" deserve the equality of science; that their gods have domain over me; that their superstitions should be allowed to oppress. I am critical of religious superstition, but I think fairly so.

Regardless of what my personal position is on religion, I still have a good understanding and an on-going education in religion from an anthropological perspective. And I would never let my personal opinion interfere with my willingness to moderate even those with whom I generally agree if they violate the rules.


Define religious cult, if you refer to Islam or Christianity as 'cults' then that demonstrates lack of respect for the worlds leading religions and thus them all. If I am incorrect then please let me know which religions specifically DO you respect?

Has someone drawn a negative conclusion about his abilities?

I recall saying after reviewing his answers to your search for a mod that he'd make a good mod, just he wouldn't be my choice for religion forum.

TOR, My initial statement wasn't written implying "You", it was written incase "Anyone" had any negative assertions. As for becoming a moderator, which you've stated you aren't implying you want to do, thats fair enough. Nobody will try to push you into something you don't want to do... well nobody when it comes to moderators/administrators.

I think by cults he meant the more deviants like Raelian's, Heavens Gate etc.

"that's like making Hitler peacekeeper of Israel

Perhaps it is a cunning plan, putting one of the most abusive posters in religion forum in charge may keep him under control? Like giving a bully 'prefect' job at school."

someone doesn't understand the meaning of the word 'conclusion'.

I posted a copy of the 'conclusion' in the post you extracted the 'conclusion' comment from. I refer you back to it. Meanwhile still in fear of responding to Invert Q? Still obsessing about lil'ol me? Night night sweet cheeks xx

TOR, My initial statement wasn't written implying "You", it was written incase "Anyone" had any negative assertions. As for becoming a moderator, which you've stated you aren't implying you want to do, thats fair enough. Nobody will try to push you into something you don't want to do... well nobody when it comes to moderators/administrators.

I think by cults he meant the more deviants like Raelian's, Heavens Gate etc.

I see, so you claim you were 'anticipating negative conclusions' rather than responding to 'negative conclusions'

are you sure you were not merely succumbing to the influence of less able members comments which have no basis in reality:bugeye:

It is worthwhile Stryder to examine these less able members posting history to observe their posts for what they are and then use this knowledge to avoid being influenced by what is merely the result of a compulsive obsessive ad hom disorder. These people need pity not encouragement.

Meanwhile Raelians etc are new on the scene here aren't they?

Has someone drawn a negative conclusion about his abilities?


You've been trying since the start of this thread and it's just not working for you now is it?

I recall saying after reviewing his answers to your search for a mod that he'd make a good mod, just he wouldn't be my choice for religion forum.
And who exactly are you again? So should all the future mod positions be run by you before they are given the position? In all honesty, who really cares what your choice would be? Not everyone will agree with skin's being made a mod, but then again, not everyone will always agree with everything.

WHICH given the fact he has no respect for religion or religious people is fair comment. Do you deny that a moderator should have respect for the forum he moderates?
The fact that he posts in there religiously (no pun intended) shows that he must respect it enough to give it his time and attention. Why because he tells some members what he honestly thinks he somehow disrespects them? Or should he be like you and be all nicey nicey with bows and giggly?:rolleyes:

If being honest about his beliefs to others who may have a different belief is somehow being disrespectful, then there is something seriously wrong. He's been here for a long time and he knows the rules. I don't recall his ever been banned for being "disrespectful" to other posters.

This seems like yet another ploy by you to say how you'd be a better moderator than Skin. Again, this thread was meant to be about Skin and all I keep seeing in it is how you would do this differently, etc. Give it up lady.

I can't imagine for example modertaing a forum for paedophiles and doing so with civility. It'll be intresting.
Interesting comparison. For one, there would never be a need or reason for you to ever moderate a forum for paedophiles. But I like how you say you'd find it difficult to moderate a bunch of people you detest (at least one hopes you would) in a civil manner, all while criticising Skin being able to moderate his forum with civility. That's just pathetic ToR.

No one has drawn hasty conclsions re his abilities Stryder, commenting on the ethics of appointing him to this forum is entirely different.
No one is? Really? Hmmm.. that's all you've been doing since you started in on this thread ToR. Hell you've been whining about the ethics of his being made a mod and you've been openly questioning his abilities.

Finally for the less intelligent members of this board who hang on my every word, may I point out that this thread was started by Invert and not I.
Ah yes.. lets go back to just how intelligent you are now. So intelligent you still cannot see how even though invert started this thread, you've just taken it over completely and made it all about... yes that's right.. as it always is.. all about you.

Should you less intelligent posters wish to respond to this be sure to get your pal to copy and paste again, being on ignore I don't see you. You may as well demonstrate your desperation for me to see you once again. I won't add anything more to this as I'm just not as interested in you as you are in me.

Finally stryder, some here seem to think I want to be a mod. I do not. But then you know that already don't you.

I credit with you the intelligence to note what the others have missed which is the complete absence of an application or request for the 'mod spot'. Responding to suggestions I be mod with sarcasm re what I'd do were I to be mod do not reflect a serious desire to be one. I do however recognise and indeed sympathise with those afflicited with low intelliegnce that misconstrue this type of humour.
And here we have it. "I don't really want to be a mod, but I'll just point out how everyone you pick to be a mod would be a bad choice and how I'd make a perfect choice.. ":rolleyes:..

Can't someone have an opinion? I thought sciforums was pretty much only about petty jealousies. Who cares what you think of her responses to his answers?
And yet here you are having an opinion, about my opinion of her opinion. Ironic, non? Why do you care about what I think of her answers to his answers?

She's trying in vain in the hope Skin loses the mod position. Saying he'd make a bad mod and then projecting herself to the forefront of how she'd make a better one.

She's trying in vain in the hope Skin loses the mod position. Saying he'd make a bad mod and then projecting herself to the forefront of how she'd make a better one.

Indeed, it is in vain since the days of creation no mod ever lost their position due to criticism by members.

They all resigned or were booted by the administration for seriously crossing the line.

It is the nature of the system. if you do not stick together the rats will pick you apart. It's quite understandable. It wouldn't probably work any other way.

Define religious cult, if you refer to Islam or Christianity as 'cults' then that demonstrates lack of respect for the worlds leading religions and thus them all. If I am incorrect then please let me know which religions specifically DO you respect?

Cult

1. Worship; reverential homage rendered to a divine being or beings.
2. A particular form or system of religious worship

The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd ed. 1989

Islam and Christianity are religions made up of many sub-cults: Sufism, Sunnism, Protestantism, Catholicism, Mormonism, etc.

Indeed, it is in vain since the days of creation no mod ever lost their position due to criticism by members.

They all resigned or were booted by the administration for seriously crossing the line.

It is the nature of the system. if you do not stick together the rats will pick you apart. It's quite understandable. It wouldn't probably work any other way.

Spurious, I am disappointed in you, surely you don't buy into bells stupidity?
Do you seriously think after all I have said that I want to be a mod? tut tut

Why be a mod when I could start my own forum and be ruler supreme. I have a small 'topic' specific private club, I rule there. It's manageable as the post count is low, the posts are short and people are civil. Thus no moderation needed. Someone once questioned a decision of mine, I deleted their post before I even finished reading it. Then I deleted them in total. If the members rebelled, I would have no qualms about closing the club without a moments notice. Why? because I can.

I have no interest in moderating, I don't have the patience the time or the inclination.

re Skin, I have no desire to influence a sacking. Thats' just childish nonsense on behalf of Bells juvenile brain. I questioned the ethics of someone apparrantly anti religion moderating religion forum. It's been taken out of context, so what's new. Skin assures he is genuine and will do a good job, thats the end of the matter.

What intrigues me more presently is why you and Invert have not been made mods despite your applications?

Why not you in biology and Invert-wherever he wants to be?

I can understand why many of the others have been overlooked (lixluke for example) but why you guys?

Spurious, I am disappointed in you, surely you don't buy into bells stupidity?
Do you seriously think after all I have said that I want to be a mod? tut tut

I'm not sure. I wasn't really confirming or denying that you are aiming for a mod position. I was merely trying to confirm the notion that it is impossible to dislodge a mod. They have to do it themselves. At least that is how it has always gone in the past. Maybe I should have been more clear, but you know how it goes. Log in. Type like speedy gonzales on speed. Continue with real life.



Why be a mod when I could start my own forum and be ruler supreme. I have a small 'topic' specific private club, I rule there. It's manageable as the post count is low, the posts are short and people are civil. Thus no moderation needed. Someone once questioned a decision of mine, I deleted their post before I even finished reading it. Then I deleted them in total. If the members rebelled, I would have no qualms about closing the club without a moments notice. Why? because I can.

Yes, that is true. I deleted my forum several times already. It's been offline a lot too. But I hardly moderate. I just delete spam accounts. If i can bother to do so.


What intrigues me more presently is why you and Invert have not been made mods despite your applications?

Why not you in biology and Invert-wherever he wants to be?

I can understand why many of the others have been overlooked (lixluke for example) but why you guys?

Because I am not liked with certain people. Ones that matter. You know how it works. ;)

Because I am not liked with certain people. Ones that matter. You know how it works. ;)

Indeed I do, but this surprises me. I have not observed any dislike for you amongst mods. Forum politics I guess.

Spurious, I am disappointed in you, surely you don't buy into bells stupidity?
Do you seriously think after all I have said that I want to be a mod? tut tut

It's because of all you have said that makes me think you want to be a mod. You like projecting yourself into the middle of the fray as the perfect one.. as the one who supposedly plays by the rules.. you are the crappy little hall monitor who will dob on everyone you can think of. You've done it before and you'll do it again. It may be you might not want to be a mod, but you just need to say how better you would be than Skin. You can't help yourself. It's so obvious a blind bat could spot you a mile off.

Why be a mod when I could start my own forum and be ruler supreme. I have a small 'topic' specific private club, I rule there. It's manageable as the post count is low, the posts are short and people are civil. Thus no moderation needed. Someone once questioned a decision of mine, I deleted their post before I even finished reading it. Then I deleted them in total. If the members rebelled, I would have no qualms about closing the club without a moments notice. Why? because I can.
Then why don't you? Seriously, why? You might not want to be a mod here because you simply would not be able to handle the criticism. You can't anyway. The temptation for you to just ban anyone who disagrees with you would be too great wouldn't it? Can't have anyone ruining the image you project of yourself... Any criticism you face here you simply put on ignore. Ah but if you didn't, you'd have to face that some might just disagree with you or think you're basically an imbercile who managed to get a nice little number on an online IQ test.

Why did you delete their post? Because it didn't fit into your world? Don't you realise how pathetic that really is? You're right. You shouldn't be a mod. Anywhere. You simply would never be able to cope because the members here would rip you to shreds.

I have no interest in moderating, I don't have the patience the time or the inclination.
Wrong. You obviously have the time since you seem to live here. Don't you have children or something? A job? A life outside the computer? You have no interest in moderating here because you simply would not be able to do it properly. But deep down you'd love to be a moderator here. But you're scared to do it because then you'd have to face the crowd instead of that little ignore button you seem to love so much.

re Skin, I have no desire to influence a sacking. Thats' just childish nonsense on behalf of Bells juvenile brain. I questioned the ethics of someone apparrantly anti religion moderating religion forum. It's been taken out of context, so what's new. Skin assures he is genuine and will do a good job, thats the end of the matter.
James and Cris are also not religious and have taken an open stance against religions in the past. What of it? Don't you think they do a good enough job? I cannot imagine Skin as being any different. He'd be my first choice because he's not a rabid poster like some and he's not inclined to put people who say mean things to him on ignore. To put it bluntly, he has the balls to deal with the crap that goes on in the religious forum.

Indeed, it is in vain since the days of creation no mod ever lost their position due to criticism by members.

Not for lack of trying by some though. And that sort of saddens me a bit. Especially when the person who seems to have taken such an interest in the appointment has not been here long enough to know how bad the religious forum can get and has gotten in the past.

Anywho, little pesky gnats aside, I thought a few years ago one was dismissed as a mod because of the complaints from members. Can't remember to be honest.