That SkinWalker is a moderator of the Religion section is like me moderating a pow-wow among Darwinites, stop the madness!

Skin says that any theist is a cult member, so according to Skin, over half the world's people are cultists, what a guy, what a religious expert, this is the guy who thinks the Jews are the offspring of the Canaanites, stop the madness!

You make the mistake of thinking the Religion forum is for religious discussion. Its actually a forum to educate theists on their delusional mentality.

Oh, I see.

You make the mistake of thinking the Religion forum is for religious discussion. Its actually a forum to educate theists on their delusional mentality.

That is incorrect, theists cannot be educated in that regard. :D

The forum is to educate atheists. :p

it is moderated badly, at any rate.
i had posts deleted today, for the crime of pointing out the hypocrisy that skinwalker threatened to close a thread over.

And we are educating the Atheists, despite Skin's Soviet style approach.

Skin deleted several harmless posts of mine, which did challenge him however, obviously.

And we are educating the Atheists, despite Skin's Soviet style approach.

Yes, you are, but not in any way you would expect.

What YOU educate the atheists are the results of poor education, blind faith in the non-existent and an unending train of hypocrisy.

The rigor of research, the use of multiple sources and historic records is what educates the atheist of the myths of religion.

Skin deleted several harmless posts of mine, which did challenge him however, obviously.

From what I've observed, you must be referring to his patience.

From what I've observed, you must be referring to his patience.

you mean the patience where he writes a paragraphs long comment about my character (and how much he doesnt like it)?

he tries to silence everyone he doesnt agree with, and shouldnt be a moderator.
not without a counterbalance.

Yes, social engineers, almost by definition, are short of patience.

I nominate Sandy to counterbalance the unbalance.

I nominate Sandy to counterbalance the unbalance.

um...no.

And you in the middle.

How 'bout Nutter?

How 'bout Nutter?

shush.

what kills me is that , ahem, scientists say god doesn't exist when they have absolutely no proof of the matter.

what kills me is that , ahem, scientists say god doesn't exist when they have absolutely no proof of the matter.

What scientists say that God doesn't exist?

What scientists say that God doesn't exist?

all of the "scientists" in the religion subforum.
:p

What scientists say that God doesn't exist?
every one of them that ridicule believers by using phrases such as "pink unicorns".

every one of them that ridicule believers by using phrases such as "pink unicorns".

well, i dont have a problem with that...i can see the logic behind what they say. ....but i dont understand why moderation does nothing about insulting the beliefs of other members.

"Flying Spaghetti Monster"

"Flying Spaghetti Monster"

dont rock the boat.

well, i dont have a problem with that...i can see the logic behind what they say. ....but i dont understand why moderation does nothing about insulting the beliefs of other members.
you don't think using phrases such as "pink unicorn" is insulting?

before we get too far into this subject we need to define exactly what the religion forum is for.

you don't think using phrases such as "pink unicorn" is insulting?

before we get too far into this subject we need to define exactly what the religion forum is for.

well, thats pretty well defined in the subforum rules, i think.

im not insulted by others' opinions. im insulted by hurtful usage of offensive attitude.

"The Man Behind the Moon"

"Flying Spaghetti Monster"

also, respond with confirmation to my private request?

im not insulted by others' opinions. im insulted by hurtful usage of offensive attitude.

Why? My motto is "I got the attitude, you need the adjustment";)

That sounds cool Devil.

Why? My motto is "I got the attitude, you need the adjustment";)

heh...dont start with me, lady. :p

maybe the religion forum has degraded into a slugfest like politics and world events.

i feel that believers shouldn't be ridiculed. i also believe the religion forum isn't a persons private little soapbox where he can stand and extoll the virtues of his religion.

maybe the religion forum has degraded into a slugfest like politics and world events.

i feel that believers shouldn't be ridiculed. i also believe the religion forum isn't a persons private little soapbox where he can stand and extoll the virtues of his religion.

i couldnt have put it better.
its the least credible subforum in this place, intellectually. i believe this is because the moderation is wildly imbalanced.

Questioning the claims of any Theist or Atheist is always in order, but no need to say "imbecile, moron, pea-brain, bonehead, lobotomized, idiot, or pinhead."

Skin needs to get off his Trojan Horse sized hobby horse, down here with the rest of us.

Questioning the claims of any Theist or Atheist is always in order, but no need to say "imbecile, moron, pea-brain, bonehead, lobotomized, idiot, or pinhead."

Don't you know demonizing others is the only way Americans know how to fight?:p

Calling someone stupid is guaranteed to make you look smart.

Don't you know demonizing others is the only way Americans know how to fight?:p

what irony!!!

hey guys..i know this is pot calling the kettle black (its me saying it after all)....

but lets try to stay on-topic?

What was the topic?

What was the topic?

skinwalker being inappropriate as a moderator without an equal counterbalance.

Perhaps we need a fundie moderator.

what irony!!!

Yeah, its called "Know your enemy":)

How 'bout a Muslim fundie for moderator?

Can they declare jihad on the atheists? :D

How 'bout a Muslim fundie for moderator?

there isnt a single one of those on this forum.

Of course they can Sam.

there isnt a single one of those on this forum.
WHA ! ? :confused: huh?!

Who?

Don't you know demonizing others is the only way Americans know how to fight?:p

Calling someone stupid is guaranteed to make you look smart.

Sam you know full well that americans don't have a monopoly on that.;)

nickelodeon, what do you think on the thread subject?

there isnt a single one of those on this forum.

Diamond Hearts comes closest but he seems to have mellowed

Well it looks like we're down to Sandy, Nutter, or me.

No we aren't

TDI or Sam would be far better.

IAC and sandy are as fanatical as any evil atheist we could have and then nothing has changed.

I wouldn't do it anyway, too much pressure.

ive been called the "Diet Coke of theists" by Crunchy Cat.

'nuff said.

mmmmmmmmmmm diet coke.

I've been called the chocolate souffle of athiests by myself.

'nuff said.

http://sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=51443&page=5&highlight=diet
meh,

the'yre not all exceptionally bonkers (allthough the bulk of them on these forums really are nuts). Devil is actually on the diet cola side of believers (not really a fanatic by any means). I think you two just didn't hit it off. I hate to see two underworld reps be so far a part. Now shake talons and be friends.
heh. love that guy.

as an example, i have had 4 posts deleted by skinwalker today.

1 was for disagreeing with him, and 3 were for asking him why posts were deleted, when his personal insults stay on the thread.

unfit for moderation.

He has deleted my posts for unbelievably childish, dogmatic, and prideful reasons, and he thinks the Jews are the offspring of the Canaanites, maybe Med Woman could sub for Skin occasionally.

He has deleted my posts for unbelievably childish, dogmatic, and prideful, reasons, and he thinks the Jews are the offspring of the Canaanites, maybe Med Woman could sub for Skin occasionally.

well, regardless of her beliefs, i find MW to be a pretty cool person, and alot more reasonable than most regulars in the religion subforum.

She does seem nice enough.

I'm not a fan of SkinWalker's, ahem, "moderation".

Yes, using SkinWalker and moderation in the same sentence is extreme.

MW is a GODDESS! What r u talkin about???

She says she's a cave-mother.

uh....

skinwalker does the best he can. a moderator in the religion forum is like a traffic light in cairo.

Skin says the Jews came from the Canaanites, is that the kind of crap you want to hear out of a moderator at a forum about Religion?

prove they didnt. it seems to me that religion is overrun with irrational statements, and the purpose of the religion forum is to either bring rationality to them or disprove them through intelligent discussion.

I think the Jews will probably tell you they didn't come from Canaanites, but you don't believe them, right?

i think the jews will also tell you that that 4000 years ago the entire world was flooded and every species alive today bred from the 1 pair of each who were stuck on a boat for 40 days. now prove it to me scientifically, dont just say 'its in the bible'

You're contesting the Rabbis, go haggle with them.

no, im contesting you. YOU claim that skinwalker is wrong, YOU prove it.

Prove I'm wrong.

Prove I'm wrong.

Are you really that dense? You are making the claim that something happened. It's your job to prove that it did in fact happen.

Where have you been for the last several months?

i think the jews will also tell you that that 4000 years ago the entire world was flooded and every species alive today bred from the 1 pair of each who were stuck on a boat for 40 days. now prove it to me scientifically, dont just say 'its in the bible'
has science, with all of it's ingenuity talent and money, been able to prove that intelligent life sprang from the elements?

on a related note why do people here have to continually point out that abiogenesis and evolution are two different concepts?

Where have you been for the last several months?

You still don't get it the only one you've proved anything to is yourself.

I bet you can't get 1 person to say that they have been convinced by your arguments.

You still don't get it the only one you've proved anything to is yourself.

I bet you can't get 1 person to say that they have been convinced by your arguments.

I does'nt seem that anyone here is convicing anyone else of anything/

I does'nt seem that anyone here is convicing anyone else of anything/

So why does IAC claim he has?

Hey, all you folks whining about Skinwalker's moderation of the Religion forum, I have a solution for you. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!

Why not try this place, and see what happens;

http://www.fredphelpsforum.com/

Hey, all you folks whining about Skinwalker's moderation of the Religion forum, I have a solution for you. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!

Why not try this place, and see what happens;

http://www.fredphelpsforum.com/

Apparently according to the admin:

Rules:
Really...there isn't any. We don't care if you love Rev. Dumbass or not. You can say whatever you'd like while you're here.

on a related note why do people here have to continually point out that abiogenesis and evolution are two different concepts?
Because they are two different concepts.

Hey, all you folks whining about Skinwalker's moderation of the Religion forum, I have a solution for you. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!

Why not try this place, and see what happens;

http://www.fredphelpsforum.com/

whining and complaining are two different things.
the fact that he intentionally panders to your particular viewpoint doesnt qualify him to moderate a forum in which he (by his own admission) values the subject matter not at all.

Because they are two different concepts.
if the education system did it's job then there would be no need to point it out would there?

Hey, all you folks whining about Skinwalker's moderation of the Religion forum, I have a solution for you. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!

Why not try this place, and see what happens;

http://www.fredphelpsforum.com/

thats how we should treat society as a whole when dealing with government power figures?

dont try to solve anything just fuck off:wtf:

:)

peace.

That's what the Darwinists hope for, that's the way they have it in the public schools, so they get crazy when their ideas are scrutinized.

I think a lot of the friction would disappear if skinwalker would post a picture of his boobs.

shaved pubes would be better.

Let's go with shaved boobs.

I have a better idea

http://i2.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/9b/48/488f_1_b.JPG

But dining is gratis?

Skin says the Jews came from the Canaanites, is that the kind of crap you want to hear out of a moderator at a forum about Religion?

I wouldn't worry about it. I've reviewed both Skinwalkers and Medicine Womans information on this point and it is hotly...debated in articles all over the internet. There is no agreement and it's all circumstantial speculation especially in comparison to the the biblical accounts with outline a far more clear thread in lineage an continuity.

You have to understand some people will stop at nothing to discredit the bible. This shouldn't surprise any of us. Many view life as a choice between God and no God. Skeptics such these will go to every length to undermine the scripture even considering the must unlikely sources.

Is there a possibility that Israelites produced children from canaanites. I'm sure. The Hebrews were unfaithfully in many ways and it would be foolishe to believe that there weren't unsanctioned unions.

On Skinwalker...I understand what you mean. His moderation to my understanding is not what I would term moderate. He has a heavy slant in his mode of operation. Threats and egotistical posturing etc. His pyschological profile was straight forward to determine. It's entirely likely he allows his personally choices and feelings to directly impact his moderation.

But to be fair I also expect that he realizes how thinly veiled this techniques and motivations are. I believe he's attempting to remain formidable as a presence and maintain order in the forum. On any point other than religion vs science I expect Skin walker is entirely capable of being objective and I think his fellow or superior moderators have had some discussion on how to accomodate all systems and not just those they personally endorse.

I think a lot of the friction would disappear if skinwalker would post a picture of his boobs.This is a common misconception. One of the major achievments of those of us in the Illuminati during the last decade is that of preventing the world from seeing Skinwalker's boobs. Please do not detroy this careful work with such ill considered suggestions.

I think a lot of the friction would disappear if skinwalker would post a picture of his boobs.

Your boobs are the best!!!

They keep time to every song I play!

whining and complaining are two different things.
the fact that he intentionally panders to your particular viewpoint doesnt qualify him to moderate a forum in which he (by his own admission) values the subject matter not at all.

This is a SCIENCE FORUM, and it has a topic area of Religion. Do you grasp this? It is NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM.

Skin is superbly qualified to moderate that forum. Not pandering to your viewpoint doesn't disqualify him!

It's a matter of opinion, and yours doesn't count, because Skin is the moderator, not you. Tough.

thats how we should treat society as a whole when dealing with government power figures?

dont try to solve anything just fuck off:wtf:

:)

peace.

Nope, this is just a web forum, not real life. There are plenty of other forums, but we only have one real life. Life is about choices, and if people don't like it here, they are free to choose another site.

This is a science forum?

On Skinwalker...I understand what you mean. His moderation to my understanding is not what I would term moderate. He has a heavy slant in his mode of operation.
before you go judging skinwalkers moderating style you better make sure you know what the purpose of the religion forum is.

This is a forum.

This is a forum.

I hate to disagree and I don't.

This is a SCIENCE FORUM, and it has a topic area of Religion. Do you grasp this? It is NOT A RELIGIOUS FORUM.

Skin is superbly qualified to moderate that forum. Not pandering to your viewpoint doesn't disqualify him!

It's a matter of opinion, and yours doesn't count, because Skin is the moderator, not you. Tough.

haha! a science forum? pining for "the old days" wont make them come back. this forum has evolved into something else, and if you dont know this...just look around.

skinwalker is completely imbalanced in his moderation. anyone that cannot see this is intentionally closing their eyes to the fact.

my opinion counts for more than you would think, i would bargain.

I think SkinWalker is geared more to moderate Pseudo Science or SciFi.

my opinion counts for more than you would think, i would bargain.

Er, no.

Er, no.

whats funny is that you cant refute anything else i say...so you say my opinion isnt valued by the population of the forum.

heh.

my opinion counts for more than you would think, i would bargain.With whom?

whats funny is that you cant refute anything else i say...so you say my opinion isnt valued by the population of the forum.

heh.

You are full of yourself, that much is apparent. I don't have enough time to refute all the crap on the Internet, sorry bub.

I don't value your opinion, and I don't care for your whining. Signed up for the Fred Phelps forum yet?

Skin just changed the title of my thread, and moved it back to from where it was initially, moved by Sam.

This is wacky.

Skin didn't like God and Abiogenesis in the same thread title, scared the crap out him.

Skin didn't like God and Abiogenesis in the same thread title, scared the crap out him.Your ability to judge character is as remarkable as your ability to conduct a meaningful discussion.

before you go judging skinwalkers moderating style you better make sure you know what the purpose of the religion forum is.

Judging? The act of condemnation...the weilding of power in relation to a decision. You're in error. I have no such ability.

As for the purpose of the religious forum...I have double checked. It's a collection atheistic fears and inaccuracies cobbled together from more credible sources to rationalize and speculate away the existence of God.

However...I still respect science...despite it's members motivations.

Yes, it should be called the Atheist forum, not the Religion forum, right Skin?

why isnt skinwalker participating in this thread?

He has no defense.

He has no defense.

To the contrary, he's defended himself many times. I think it's because he's tired of having to give the same arguments over and over.

I find it interesting that James R or Plazma haven't entered into the discussion. Those are the only two on this site that can really do anything about Skinwalker and his "problems." Why is it, in your opinion, that neither of the two have participated in this thread?

Skin just deleted my post which said "what's good for the goose is good for the gander," oh the horror of that line!!!!

James R and Plazma haven't jumped in because they have nothing to say.

Skin just deleted my post which said "what's good for the goose is good for the gander," oh the horror of that line!!!!

Where did you post that statement?

"Religion for Self or for God"

"Religion for Self or for God"

Well I'd have to know exactly where you posted it. And how do you know it was Skinwalker? You do know that James R and Plazma have power over there too, right? Maybe skinwalker sent you a PM about the post?

I think Skin deletes stuff merely because he disagrees, for instance, on the History Channel thread, he was extolling the virtues of PBS, and then I posted Prime Bull Shit, and he deleted it, now he obviously does disagree, but where does he get off thinking his opinion is all that should be read?

1 deleted, 6,066 posts to go.

I got an infraction for trolling, as he was engaged, and getting his ass kicked, in debate with me.

You are full of yourself, that much is apparent. I don't have enough time to refute all the crap on the Internet, sorry bub.

I don't value your opinion, and I don't care for your whining. Signed up for the Fred Phelps forum yet?

sorry that your buddy is not a good moderator.
*shrug* i dont know what else to say, without descending to the level of personal insults, as you seem to need to do from the get-go.

Don't worry Devil. You will always be my homo!

Don't worry Devil. You will always be my homo!

thats.....reassuring.

If you want to discuss Religion without moderation, follow the link;

http://www.phlogredux.org/messages/148493.html

I left a welcome message for you.

reported.

reported.


To whom?

doesnt matter. its reported.
feel free to make more personally insulting little pages, and post them here.
honestly, im flattered that you took the time.

doesnt matter. its reported.
feel free to make more personally insulting little pages, and post them here.
honestly, im flattered that you took the time.

It rather does matter to whom. That site is unmoderated, so any complaint will fall of deaf ears. I didn't spend a lot of time 'making a site' I just linked to a post on another forum, so don't flatter yourself, it took seconds.

To ask the mods of this site to act on something posted on another is rather beyond their jurisdiction, don't you think?

You also miss the point. If you want to discuss religious matters without what you perceive as imbalanced moderation, there it is, on that site. The insult was to prove the site is unmoderated. The post will not be deleted, there is no infraction process, I will not be punished for it. Get the idea yet?

It rather does matter to whom. That site is unmoderated, so any complaint will fall of deaf ears. I didn't spend a lot of time 'making a site' I just linked to a post on another forum, so don't flatter yourself, it took seconds.

To ask the mods of this site to act on something posted on another is rather beyond their jurisdiction, don't you think?

You also miss the point. If you want to discuss religious matters without what you perceive as imbalanced moderation, there it is, on that site. The insult was to prove the site is unmoderated. The post will not be deleted, there is no infraction process, I will not be punished for it. Get the idea yet?

i get the idea that you have to resort to childish antics to make points.
end transmission.

i get the idea that you have to resort to childish antics to make points.
end transmission.

I get the idea that you are an ingrate, and when lead to a site that does not moderate it's topics, still aren't happy.

Therefore, I can only assume it's not about moderation, but a personal vendetta against Skinwalker, and you are just whining.

It rather does matter to whom. That site is unmoderated, so any complaint will fall of deaf ears. I didn't spend a lot of time 'making a site' I just linked to a post on another forum, so don't flatter yourself, it took seconds.

To ask the mods of this site to act on something posted on another is rather beyond their jurisdiction, don't you think?



Maybe if you hadn't posted the link here.

Otherwise I could make a web page saying (Q) is a cunt and post the link without repercussions. It doesn't work this way.

Maybe if you hadn't posted the link here.

Otherwise I could make a web page saying (Q) is a cunt and post the link without repercussions. It doesn't work this way.

Do you think Q would care? Q isn't a whiner.

This could be regarded as an insult. Indirect, but still as an insult.

Deleted this time.

Do you think Q would care? Q isn't a whiner.

Are you kidding?

This could be regarded as an insult. Indirect, but still as an insult.

Deleted this time.

Shouldn't you also delete the link that Devil Inside quoted? Or does it fall short of an insult if he provides the link? ;-)

Shouldn't you also delete the link that Devil Inside quoted? Or does it fall short of an insult if he provides the link? ;-)

or you could just not post material intending to offend other members.

or you could just not post material intending to offend other members.


Were you really offended?

Were you really offended?

whether i was offended or not, has no bearing on the matter. you posted it to instigate a reaction. a negative one.

back on subject now?

whether i was offended or not, has no bearing on the matter. you posted it to instigate a reaction. a negative one.

back on subject now?

No, I posted it to demonstrate that the linked forum was not moderated.

You really are a self pitying whiner looking for a place to grind his axe, aren't you?

No, I posted it to demonstrate that the linked forum was not moderated.

You really are a self pitying whiner looking for a place to grind his axe, aren't you?

reported.
if you cant respond without personally insulting me, please place me on ignore.

reported.
if you cant respond without personally insulting me, please place me on ignore.

Why don't you put me on ignore, then you won't have to keep pulling on the moderators coat tails.

Reporting me again demonstrates that you really are a whiner.

The Skinster just deleted posts germane to the subject matter on the Aryan thread, his intellectual dishonesty is spectacular, his fitness as a moderator is nonexistent, what a load.

The Skinster just deleted posts germane to the subject matter on the Aryan thread, his intellectual dishonesty is spectacular, his fitness as a moderator is nonexistent, what a load.

So says you, but you aren't exactly rational.

Why don't you put me on ignore, then you won't have to keep pulling on the moderators coat tails.

Reporting me again demonstrates that you really are a whiner.

you arent ignore-worthy. id rather have the convenience of showing moderators when you break rules, seeing as you make a point of trying to drive other members into the dirt.

enjoy your night.

The Skinster just deleted posts germane to the subject matter on the Aryan thread, his intellectual dishonesty is spectacular, his fitness as a moderator is nonexistent, what a load.
there is an aryan thread? :confused:
where?

Under History.

This thread is going nowhere.

The Skinster just deleted posts germane to the subject matter on the Aryan thread, his intellectual dishonesty is spectacular, his fitness as a moderator is nonexistent, what a load.

Actually I didn't delete them at all. I moved them to the appropriate forum as I advised you I would. Your own inability to pay attention and comprehend simple moderation instructions disqualifies you from having a valid opinion on the fitness of others.

Your pseudoscience posts are here: http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1395581&postcount=462