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mountainhare
03-07-04, 01:48 AM
OK, I have a couple of math questions which I can't do. If you don't guess it, this is Year 12 math... I hope you can help. I really don't have much time to go and ask the teacher (I already have about 300 questions :P)

In the following two questions, you have to solve for x across [0, 2pi)

2sin2x = 1

I only obtained two answers ( pi/12 and its equivalent (13*pi)/12)

However, the book obtained FOUR. It had my answers, as well as (5*pi)/12 and (17*pi)/12

How could it get these two?! They are in the wrong quadrants...

The next question...

5cos(2x-(pi/6))=2

There are four answers again! And this question is too complex for me to even get two...

Can anyone help me, please?

AD1
03-07-04, 07:15 AM
How could it get these two?! They are in the wrong quadrants...

2 sin 2x = 1

sin 2x = ½

2x = arcsin ½

x = ½ arcsin ½

The sine of 2x must equal one-half, however, keeping x within the range [0, 2π] can yield four answers if 2x lies within the range [0, 4π].

i.e. 2x = π/6, 5π/6, 13π/6 and 17π/6.

x lies within the range [0, 2π] for all of the above.

James R
03-07-04, 08:44 AM
2sin2x = 1

Therefore sin 2x = 1/2

2x = ..., pi/6, 5 pi/6, 13 pi/6, 17 pi/6, ...

and so, listing all answers between 0 and 2 pi, we have:

x = pi/12, 5 pi/12, 13 pi/12, 17 pi/12

James R
03-07-04, 08:45 AM
5cos(2x-(pi/6))=2

cos (2x - pi/6) = 2/5

This has no easily-found exact solutions when you take the inverse cosine. You'll need to use a calculator.

curioucity
03-07-04, 12:13 PM
Try solving it using graphics if you find it confusing to calculate those variables, it may help (at least in my case, which is sadly also my downfall... I failed my algebraic/calculus math subject twice in a row....)

Rappaccini
03-07-04, 01:35 PM
For

0.4 = cos (2*(X - pi/12)),

where

0 < X =< 2pi,


X ≈

3291pi/12288 = 1097pi/4096,

11045pi/12288,

15579pi/12288 = 5193pi/4096, and

23333pi/12288.



Those are only approximate solutions, but I seriously doubt one can get much closer.

Pete
03-07-04, 05:13 PM
In the following two questions, you have to solve for x across [0, 2pi)

Note that this means you have to solve for 2x across [0, 4pi], so you're actually traversing each quadrant twice.

You might find it easier to substitute a for 2x, then solve for a across [0,4pi].

Pete
03-07-04, 05:19 PM
5cos(2x-(pi/6))=2

A substitution for the term in the trig function makes things easier

a = 2x - pi/6
0 <= x <= 2pi
-pi/6 <= a <= (4pi - pi/6)

5.cos(a) = 2
cos(a) = 2/5 = 0.4
a = acos(0.4)

There are four solutions for a in the range -pi/6 to 4pi - pi/6
For each solution, use x = (a + pi/6)/2 to find x

mountainhare
03-09-04, 03:32 AM
The first question is easy. Just add 2pi to the other two angles...

I still don't understand the second question.

I get the first two angles. But WHAT do I add to them to get the other two angles???

HallsofIvy
03-09-04, 08:25 AM
5cos(2x-(pi/6))=2 so cos(2x-(pi/6))= 2/5.

My calculator gives arccos(2/5)= 1.159 (approx) but if I take a quick glance at the graph of y= cos(x) I see that 2pi- 1.159= 5.124 also satisfies cos(x)= 2/5.
Indeed, 2pi+ 1.159= 7.442 and 4pi- 1.159= 11.407 also satisfy cos(x)= 2/5. Those are outside of [0,2pi) but THAT DOESN'T MEAN X IS!

Taking 2x- pi/6= 1.159 I get 2x= 1.159+ pi/6= 1.682 or x= 0.841
Taking 2x- pi/6= 5.124 I get 2x= 5.124+ pi/6= 5.647 or x= 2.824
Taking 2x- pi/6= 7.442 I get 2x= 7.442+ pi/6= 7.966 or x= 3.983
Taking 2x- pi/6= 11.407 I get 2x= 11.407+ pi/6= 11.931 or x= 5.965

All of which are in [0, 2pi)

mountainhare
03-10-04, 02:55 AM
YAY!
It all make sense now!
Thanks guys and girls ;)

mountainhare
03-10-04, 04:39 AM
Everyone disregard this post. The person who needs this knows who they are ;)

5cos(2x-(pi/6))=2

cos(2x-(pi/6)) =2/5

2x-(pi/6) = cos-1(2/5)

2x-(pi/6) = 2pi - cos-1(2/5), 2pi - cos-1(2/5) + 2pi, cos-1(2/5), cos-1(2/5) + 2pi

2x = 2pi - cos-1(2/5) + (pi/6), 2pi - cos-1(2/5) + 2pi + (pi/6), cos-1(2/5) + pi/6, cos-1(2/5) + 2pi + pi/6

x = all those answers divided by two!