Anyone seen the movie yet? Where do you live and how does your health care system works? Do you think it is a good system? Or do you have other suggestions? Let's go medical!
Nope, haven't seen it. Any good ? I live in The Netherlands and the health care system is fabulous compared to most other countries. But is has become a lot more expensive in recent years due to population aging (or so they say).
hooray for you, i want to move to canada when im older Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I have seen it and I felt sorry for the Americans. I don't understand why they don't revolt against the system. Big health care companies let people suffer and die, just to make more profit. Can you imagine???? At the other hand...the image he made of the European system was a bit too positive. It seemd like you never had to pay, wait or search for something. Still I am convindes we (Belgians) have the best healthcaresystem in the world (togheter with Canada). For exemple: My grandma fainted in a (Belgian) restaurant last year. We dialed 911. The ambulance arrived in 5 minutes, the examination took 2 hours and it costed 0€... The same thing happened this Summer, while visiting the US. We dialed 911, they arrived quiet fast, it took 6!!!!!! hours to get her examined, there was no doctor availble, no nurses and they took scanns of about every inch of her body without being able to say what was wrong. Most of the time she spent waiting in the hospital wich looked more like an aidcamp in a warzone. The bill: 2000$!!! Luckely we are fully covered and didn't had to pay a €... And they told us the hospital was a renownd (cancer specialised) one....it gave me the kreeps!
I swear i posted a thread about this before.. I gave a copy to my english teacher and now the WHOLE 10th grade is doing it as a documentary study. And this is in Australia. Our health system is a two party system If you want uber luxury and on demand specialist care, theres private insurance But if you don't mind having a bed in a 6 bed room/ward, theres the public insurance, However, there are bed shortages in the private sector, which means that the quality of care is lower.
Here are the other threads http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=68258 http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=69792 http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=72676 EDIT: Can we merge two of the threads together please ?
Don't feel sorry for us. We don't want gov healthcare. Everything the gov touches turns to cr@p. We have Britons and Canadians BEGGING us to take care of them because their socialized healthcare is cr@p: long lines, deadly infections... I do not want it. I'll keep my own.
The comfortably well-off and the sponsored. For most it isn't an option, either because they can't afford it or because they've had no need to consider it.
Too bad you can't take care of your own citizens, 46 million of whom are uninsured. Tell me, how do you obtain health care in the U.S.A, if you aren't on Medicaid/Medicare?
Me too..........Canadians begging you to take care of them?????? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!We just swipe our healthcard and everything is paid! Where are all these long lines you are talking about, I haven't come across them.....:bugeye:
Could be true for some treathments...still why don't you take care of your own people first, intstead of treating foreigners....it is always the same with you guys...always going abroad instead of staying between your borders Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
The first survey of Britons opting for treatment overseas shows that fears of hospital infections and frustration of often waiting months for operations are fuelling the increasing trend, and you want the U.S. to adopt the same type of system? Canada is have the same thing happen in it's system, and they are even sending patients to the U.S. because they don't have the beds or timely treatment available for many problems. Daily Mail Monday, October 29 Record numbers go abroad for health treatment with 70,000 escaping NHS Record numbers of Britons are travelling abroad for medical treatment to escape the NHS - with 70,000 patients expected to fly out this year. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=490233 Record numbers go abroad for health treatment with 70,000 escaping NHS Last updated at 09:47am on 28th October 2007 Record numbers of Britons are travelling abroad for medical treatment to escape the NHS - with 70,000 patients expected to fly out this year. And by the end of the decade 200,000 "health tourists" will fly as far as Malaysa and South Africa for major surgery to avoid long waiting lists and the rising threat of superbugs, according to a new report. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The findings come amid further revelations about the Government's mishandling of NHS policies, and ahead of official statistics that will embarrass ministers. On Wednesday, figures are expected to show rising numbers of hospital infections. Cases of the superbug Clostridium difficile, which have risen five-fold in the past decade, are expected to increase beyond the 55,000 cases reported last year. On the same day, statistics will show that vast sums have been spent on pay, with GPs' earnings rising by more than 50 per cent in three years to an average of more than £110,000. New research shows that growing NHS bureaucracy has left nurses with little time to see patients – most spending long periods dealing with paperwork. Katherine Murphy, of the Patients' Association, said the health tourism figures reflected shrinking public faith in the Government's handling of the NHS. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Waiting times had fallen. Almost half of patients were treated within 18 weeks of seeing a GP. Most people who had hospital care did not contract infections. They are bragging about the fact that Patients have to wait 18 WEEKS for treatment, OMG, :wtf:: Four and 1/2 Months for Treatment, you could end up very dead waiting for treatment.
Well waitings times are not universal for all conditions. Priority cases have very short waiting times, emergency cases are dealt with immediately. There are longer waits for less serious ops. They dont make you wait if your condition is immediately life threatening. Anyway 70,000 deciding to travel abroad compared with the 15 million who are treated a year is tiny.
Canada is starting to see the same thing happen with their system. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=c08b3dbc-c91a-4f69-a477-15f59d94f596 The patients from Golden are among the small but slowly growing number of Canadians flying to foreign countries for treatment -- a for-profit phenomenon known as medical tourism. Frustration over the long list of 875,000 Canadians awaiting for surgery and other procedures is what is driving people to "outsource" their treatment overseas.
I would tend to believe heart surgery is a serious condition, wouldn't you? http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Policyandguidance/Healthandsocialcaretopics/Coronaryheartdisease/DH_4097430
