The war on terror should also include a war on drugs. I mean, drugs takes lives. The governments know where the major plantations are, so go in there and smoke em out. Keep our children safe. :)

Wow, i cant wait to see the kind of respnse this will get. :D :D :D

well, i'm not saying excessive drug use is good. it aint.

i just wonder why some drugs get s much bad press and some(alcohol) are legal?

and there is a difference between a terroist and a drug dealer. they may both be bad people. but they aren't the same exact thing. that's a little simplistic aint it?

Have you ever smoked marijuana? I can understand where you say it's useless and stupid etc...but to say it will destroy someone spiritually etc, without ever having experienced it yourself? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

The comment about all drug dealers being terrorists is false. That's like saying all Arabs or all Muslims are terrorists. Which is also false, of course. If i had to generalize, i'd have to say most small-time marijuana dealers are middle-aged men..who also have legit jobs, families, etc.

And to tell the USERS to keep our thoughts to ourselves..while you "straight edgers" and "sobers" and, PURITANS, may say what you want, because you don't use drugs? Just some more hypocrisy, i'd say..

:m:

Maxine,
You sound like someone that has no experience in either a. taking drugs or b. dealing with someone who does drugs.

Now, before you fit me in a simplistic little mold...know that I have never been addicted to any substance and haven't touched an illegal drug in over 5 years...

I used to smoke tobacco but at least that didn't make me walk around in a daze, neglecting my children.
Are you saying tobacco is fine? Do you think all other drugs cause people to neglect their children?

I am sick and tired of druggies walking around slurring out how wonderful POT smoking is or heroin, cocain, etc. Keep your thoughts to yourself.
Where do you live? I have never been to a place where stoned people stumble around the streets preaching the benefits of heroin.

Illegal drugs, including the legal alcohol (excess) not only destroy the mind, but the physical and spiritual well being. It is one of the dumbest things you can do for yourself, your children and your loved ones.
Yes, drugs can destroy the mind when used in extreme excess. Spiritual well-being? Sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me. I agree it can be a dumb thing to do...if you have a predispostion to addiction for instance. But isn't bungee jumping dangerous? Is that also 'dumb'? Should we make that illegal?

There is no difference between a terrorist and a drug dealer. Both destroy.
Lots of things destroy. Are they all the same? Regardless..how exactly does a drug dealer destroy? He is providing a supply to a demand. What if drug use were legalized or regulated? There would be no drug dealers...so...problem solved?

Brave are the sober!!!!!
Not really....but maybe "Clear-thinking are the sober!!!" :)

Maxine: There is no difference between a terrorist and a drug dealer. Both destroy. [Drugs] make [one] walk around in a daze, neglecting [one's] children... slurring about how wonderful POT smoking is or heroin, cocaine, etc. Keep your thoughts to yourself. Illegal drugs, including the legal alcohol (excess) not only destroy the mind, but the physical and spiritual well being. It is one of the dumbest things you can do for yourself, your children and your loved ones.Don't you just despise people who generalize about an entire large class of people, based primarily on propaganda spewed out by political and religious hate groups. They've met a few in their own experience who were bad apples, not realizing that they'd also met dozens or hundreds of others--unremarkable people who went unnoticed, holding down jobs, raising families, producing art and music, supporting worthwhile causes with their money and energy. They dismiss any arguments that contradict their own by ad hominem attacks, the more reasoned and substantiated, the more they have to suppress them with hysterical appeals to everyone's unreasoning, animal emotions: fear, protection of children, our whole world is in danger of being destroyed by these perverts. It's time to suspend the rules of civil society and just destroy these fiends before they become too powerful.

That certainly is an accurate summary of the "philosophy" of the typical Mideastern terrorist. But I can't shake this nagging feeling that I've also just described somebody else...

^ Well said

fundamentalism is fundamentalism is fundamentalism

christian fundament folks
muslim fundament folks
no-drug fundaments

is all the same...people persecuting people for not thinking
as they think/doing as they do.....


no-drug lady, i think you should read some philosophy and
also the newspaper

War on Drugs is not a phrase to be thrown about!

what is this "War on Terror" bullcrap???

are we all getting into it now?

(sarcastic tone) Oh Boy Let's All Plan Aspects of
Our Awesome War on Terror! I can't wait! Got the picnic basket?

Hey, i know a few people that smoke a joint once a month or something, but they are great people and it doesn't matter to me that they smoke up sometimes... Me, i dont think anything more than :m: is a good idea. With heroin, ive seen people squirming around on the street after they take a shot, and have no perception of anything going on around them. Crack? People die sometimes after having some. Ecstacy... I feel that this is the worst drug ever. I have seen a person that can no longer experience emotion. She's a step up from brain dead. To live, but to not be able to feel happiness, hate, love, loneliness... That is what scares me. I think that the people who does this are actually in many cases good people. There's some drugs :( that are just as bad/worse than any illegal drug there is. Dexadrin, for example. It causes depression, severe wieght loss that stays with you, and depression. What good does it do? you can "supposedly" focus better. However the pilots that accidently bombed the Canadian soldiers were on dexadrin, and possibly hallucinated being fired on, and attacked before authorization I believe was the most recent claim. Possibly the worst drug, however, is that new birth control injection women can get. There was many stories of people having SEVERE side effects for 3 months protection from pregnancy. I'll list all the ones i remember...
Excessive wieght gain (not 5 pounds, closer to 50)
Irregular/excessive bleeding
Shortness of breath
Weakness in legs, inability to stand
Loss of sex drive
Constant pain
Severe anxiety
Severe depression
Thats all i can remember right now... (and then it gets bad) but the side effects can last for Seven years or longer.:bugeye:
As you can see, there are many drugs more destructive than crack, heroin, or ecstacy. And these are LEGAL drugs that do more damage than any illegal drug ive heard of.:mad:

Are you brave Maxine or are you just sober?:rolleyes:

Wow. Welcome to the forums, Maxine. I wish I could say that was a good post.

Bear in mind that the Drug War is terrorism against the people. Law enforcement is entitled to kill innocent people, nearly carte blanche. You know your Constitutional rights? Well, the precedents that will help the US government remove them all come from the Drug War.

If you are law enforcement, you have no obligation to the law during the drug war.

Which is sad, because as society becomes more and more chaotic, I remind myself that the human divorce from marijuana is only 66 years old in the US, and that whole period has seen society collapsing.

Have you ever smoked pot? I wouldn't recommend trying cocaine or heroin before you judge it, but seriously, have you ever smoked, eaten, or otherwise consumed marijuana?

Oh, and if you smoked around your children, you didn't neglect them but directly assaulted them. Good mommy.Keep your thoughts to yourself Yes, this is the only way the anti-drug contingent can make any sense--if they have no opposition.

Beware the sober.

http://www.drcnet.org

As with any other subject and any other person, Maxine, I would suggest that you educate yourself before you throw your pointless temper tantrums.

I hope someday to be able to respect you, but what should I do when you invite me to consider you a moron?

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

Love is the drug.

Oh yeah, nice intellectual replies. Oh goody, I'm religious am I?
I expected to get this kind of feed back. Some of you lot obviously use :m: daily and it actually shows. I'll have to create more post's. Oh ripper, the world is filled with pot heads. Charming life for the next generation. OH RIPPER!!!!!!

ANYBODY AT THIS SITE NOT INTO SMOKING :m: CRAP!

Oh and by the way, I did not smoke tobacco around my kids. In fact I never had kids then and had the decency to give it up. Unlike you lot, WHACKED out of your minds, but anyway, if you all wanna do it, keep on at it, wipe yourselves out. I have never smoked pot before, but have seen the after affects and it is not a clever thing to do, but hey, if this makes me a loser thinking this way, who cares.
THE SOBER RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

I like Maxine -- she's silly. :D

Not worth a NICKEL BAG?????What the????????RAVE ON TIASSA!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I like lykan, he's silly ToO :D :D :D :D :D

This thread is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read. Close minded people make me sick.

. Close minded people make me sick.

i'm hearing a lot of blanket statements about drug users and "sober" people.

Maxine, you think anyone who's touched the :m: is a lunatic pot head? well as usuall, life is not such a black and white issue. I know some people who are wacked out on pot, and really need to put down the joint and do something with their life. So i'm not saying drugs are great and we should all smoke up all the time. but I do know of(and might be) people who use this thing called moderation. smoking up once does not make you a wacked out drug user.

duuuuuude, chill out:cool:

Oh yeah, nice intellectual repliesWell, with such an intellectual topic post, what did you expect? People are just trying to communicate with you in the language you understand.

For instance, I could say:

"Maxine, I am troubled by your statistically insupportable assertions and unnecessarily cruel mischaracterizations, for such notions do little to actually address the problems which lead to and come from drug abuse."

Or, I could say,

"What the fuck is your problem?"

Set a better precedent, Maxine, and you'll get a better result. Many of us are happy to discuss drugs. However, we aren't real excited at the prospect of taking abuse from Barry McCaffrey's girl-Friday.

thanx,
Tiassa :cool:

I did drugs when I was younger and don't regret it at all. Learnt alot of important things from drugs, had alot of good times, etc... But I recognized when I had outgrown them, and quit. Perhaps some day I will find myself in a position where drugs are right for me again, but not at the moment.

ill admit it

i once sold

i sold to a friend because he didnt have any and i had just bought 28 grams

your saying im a terrioust?

28 grams

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!

Maxine,

Prove that my life is fucked up because I smoke. Seriously. I would like to read your analysis.

i didnt SELL 28 grams:p

i sold um 3 grams (altho my idot friend gave him 5 or MORE for the price of 3:(, GRRRRRR)

most of it went into the pot (no pun intended:p) variouse nights

I meant that I have never viewed tht much at one time in my life. I have seen two ounces of shwag, but it wasnt anything to be proud of. That just stupifies me as to what you must have been doing for the whole week. Thats alot 'o pot.

actully i smoked roughly 5 grams out of all of it

i owed a lot of people, so i put in WAY more than i smoked

I'm sorry if I have insulted anyone. I have a cousin who is now a complete vegie, due to drug taking. I hate any drug that has people feeling artificial sensations for the very reason that I do care. I'm not trying to be girl friday, but I have an opinion and am entitled to use it. I dont think the world leaders are doing enough to stop drug trafficking. Actually, they are not doing enough to educate people on the dangers of drugs, and I'm tired of alcohol still being advertised, after they banned tobacco advertising. This is my opinion, so don't insult me for it ok. Believe it or not, there are still some people in the world who are like me, and that does not mean we are narrow minded, just have seen people do some dumb things. What do you think about the statistics of crime and drug usage? Dont bother.

you DO realise that achole is good for you?

Yeah, I read the report about alcohol. It is good for you only in moderation. I'm just thinking about alcoholics who get legless every day. A true alcoholic only has to smell it and they are drunk.

and so the wine companys should advatise?

Can you drink and drive? No. I personally think, because tobacco has been banned from advertising, alcohol should be as well. Too much alcohol can cause cancer, did you know that.???
How about liver disease??How about brain damage in later years. Moderation is good, but how many people drink in moderation? I have said what I wanted to say.

ONE cigaret halms you

Tobacco is adictive

achole doesnt have either of these things, a glass of red a day is good for you and now they say a glass of ANY achole a day is

and its not chemically adictive either

there are some people who will get adicted but EVERYONE who smokes WILL become adicted eventully, same cant be said about achole

theres a HUGE difference between the 2 of them

A glass or two of red wine per day is good for you. They dont get drunk on this. One cigarette per day ? Thats good, that wont cause damage will it? 1 cigarette won't get you high. 100 cigarettes[TOBACCO] wont get you high. The point is, there are a few people who do things in excess, like alcohol, eg, if I ever got hit by a drunk driver, I would sue the alcohol companies for making a product that puts people at risk. People are getting millions out of the tobacco industries, so why not for alcohol?. It has to happen eventually.

yes actully

one cigaret layers tar on your lungs, introduces carbon manoxide (you know the gass that comes out of the back of cars that people use to kill themselves with) and niccoten into the blood stream

now it may be unnoticable damage from one cigaret but its there all the same

and it will never happen that achole companys pay out for drunk drivers

the reason cigaret compays are is because they advatised there product as harmless even after they had the resurch in there had that it wasnt and that it was adictive to boot

achole companys SPONCER anti drink driving campains

they call it responcable drinking and they are all for it (hell it means there are more coustomers for them if they dont all kill themselves)

TOTALL different issue

Your good. But this little bit of tar from just 1 cigarette? If you live in a major city, the air that you breath contains more poisons from pollutants than 1 little cigarette. The bottom line is, no illegal drugs are good for you, and we are aware that cigarette's are no good for you, and excess alcohol is not good either.

The bottom line is, no illegal drugs are good for you, and we are aware that cigarette's are no good for you, and alcohol is excess not good either.


SEE i could make the same argument about CHOCHOLATE

exssive chochloate causes obeasity leading to diabetys, heart desease ect

Originally posted by Asguard
SEE i could make the same argument about CHOCHOLATE

exssive chochloate causes obeasity leading to diabetys, heart desease ect

Yeah, but you can still drive a car. Some Americans are suing KFC arnt they? Does KFC make you slur your speech? Anyway, maybe people will sue chocolate companies and just about every other thing, so why not alcohol. Where are the warnings on the labels?. Yeah, thats it now. ([] cheers. []) ~~~~~~

i wasnt talking about US law suits

i think your all mad

SUEING MAC's????????

i was talking about the Australian law suits

Originally posted by Asguard
i wasnt talking about US law suits

i think your all mad

SUEING MAC's????????

i was talking about the Australian law suits

I see Asguard that you are an Australian from Melbourne. I'm also Australian. How's it going mate!!!Isn't the cricket on tele tonight? :bugeye: ([] Thanks for the Aussie Athon debate.

*blushs*

i apologise for that:o

umm

WHAT KFC law suit?

I also see that you are a priest. Aha!!!!!!!I could start another debate here. :rolleyes: Oh dear god.

ME a PRIEST????

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

thats a JOKE

look at what im the high prist OF:p

Cthulhu's High Priest

where is xev when u need here:p

God, you had me going there. You even had the right attitude.
Yep, and you have not heard of KFC getting sued. Are you really a footy chef? Oh come on.

yes im really an aprentice chef but i work in RESTRANTS not in fast food and really i dont care about US law suits

i only know Mca's is getting suied because its in ethics:p

and how could i be a priest?

IM BI:p

So your BI. You could still be a priest. Ha ha ha ha ha. This is my first post. Its getting real good now.

just to add to the dumbness


Maxine, Lykan doesn't really like you.
He thinks you're silly because you're so closeminded and ranty.

Ranty? Close minded? I dont think so?
You'd know all about that wouldn't you.

I would like to say that I am an infamous drunk and pot-head.
I never have slurred speech.
Your motives, your goals, your personality can remain fully
intact while drinking and smoking.

Speech is important to me. I would not do anything that would
disable me, even temporarily.

people who are responsible and interesting remain so when
drinking and smoking. people who are lazy and boring
remain so when drinking and smoking.

it doesn't change you, not really.
i can see how an all out alcoholic could ruin many people's
lives, but we're not talking about that. we're just talking
about normal dosages of pot and alcohol, right?

(Normal, meaning whatever you want.)

anyway, I am not quite as dumb as a fish who eats too much
and dies. I know what I need and like and I am experienced
enough to not overdo it. I would venture to say that others in
this forum might say the same thing about themselves.....

Originally posted by Slacker47
I meant that I have never viewed tht much at one time in my life. I have seen two ounces of shwag, but it wasnt anything to be proud of. That just stupifies me as to what you must have been doing for the whole week. Thats alot 'o pot.

What am I missing here? I thought 28 grams was equal to one ounce of pot. Well, actually I thought it was about 27 1/2 grams.

For Susan: (The IQ) You sound like a woman I saw holding onto a post, too pissed to stand upright. I really dont care if you are the town drunk!

if you don't care about the town drunk
than we don't care if you are the town
tight-ass sober woman. so why
did you start this thread, really?

I would like that you, Maxine, define your metaphor.

If I am the drunk woman pissing on a post, what is the post and
what is the piss?

Is the piss my post?
If that is true, isn't your post piss as well?

MAXINE TOOK A PISS!!!!

misread

pissed for piss, what we Americans call pee, urine

anyway. why do I resemble that woman; please, tell me!

:m:

Why do you think IQ?????Read my main post again. Right through till the end if you can read. Thanks for your insults by the way. I reserve the right to say and think what I like, particulary when it is the truth.,.By the way, pissed means drunk you idiot. Thats you, the town drunk.

I am well aware that pissed means drunk to you, as you
could read yourself from one of my posts.

I am also well aware that I am the town drunk.
You have done nothing to expand your metaphor,
as I requested.

Nor have you answered my subliminal question-

why am I expected to care about you, what you say,
the town tight-ass sober woman if you don't
care about me as the town drunk?

Equal rights, equal sensitivity- that's all I'm asking for.

Also, I'm sorry about your family's troubles with drugs.
But the problems are not solved by disallowing others
to do the drugs they wish to do. Their mental and physical
states do not have much to do with your family's happiness
and drug-freeness.

[From Susan]
why am I expected to care about you, what you say,
the town tight-ass sober woman if you don't
care about me as the town drunk?

Equal rights, equal sensitivity- that's all I'm asking for.

Also, I'm sorry about your family's troubles with drugs.
But the problems are not solved by disallowing others
to do the drugs they wish to do. Their mental and physical
states do not have much to do with your family's happiness
and drug-freeness. [/B][/QUOTE]

[From Maxine]
Have I ever asked you to care about me?, what I say? Get real.
I have an opinion and have used my "rights" to say what I wanted to say. So your into equal rights? Does that mean that a person can go around murdering innocent people because it was his/her equal rights? "oh i felt like doing it"? Oh yeah?

Drugs can be very pleasant, but also can contain numerous pitfalls , especially for young people where sense of identity and valuesystem is still very turbulent/taking shape.

I feel that every individual should be able to make a BALANCED DECISION to take drugs or not.

That's why I believe in honest widespread education instead of drug-war propaganda....

I do admit, that the harder the drug, the stronger personality you need to quiet or stay out of trouble.

That's why , as a general guideline i would make ALL drugs LEGAl, but I would use age restrictions, like pot and alcohol officially allowed from age 16, xtc and coke from age 18 and crack, GHB, LSD PCP and nicotine (a really bad bad harddrug) etc from age 21. This is a very crude attempt to give people to develop a not too much drug-dependant personality to make a balanced decision wheter or not to huff gasoline.

...which would become legal at what age???

:m: Peace.

Originally posted by Maxine
What do you think about the statistics of crime and drug usage?

That is a very interesting question. This is especially so coming from a prohibitionist.

The realtionship between crime and drug usage is not the real question. The real question focuses on the relationship bewtween crime and prohibition.

I contend that the major harms surrounding the drug trade come from the fact that drugs are illegal.

Prohibition allows for drastically inflated sreet prices for drugs. This black market effect allows powerful drug cartels to enjoy huge profit margins. In order to insure these profits, drug cartels are willing to kill and torture. Vicious street gangs are encouraged to engage in bloody turf wars because drugs are illegal. Users will commit property crimes in order to pay these black market prices.

The murders and robberies that we see are not from the inherent evil of the drug itself but, rather, from the fact the drugs are illegal.

So Maxine, let's look at your position in light of the above assertions. Basically, it is your position that we should escalate (well you actually said we should include a war on drugs with war on terrorism which demonstrates some ignorance due to the fact that the US has been fighting a war on drugs since Nixon) the war on drugs. What will the efect be?

Well due to the fact that the drug war has already shown that it can't be won (based on the last 30+ years of trying), escalating the war would only raise blackmarket prices. This would give the drug cartels and street gangs more of an incentive to kill and torture (to make more money). In addition, street users would be committing more property crimes to maintain their addiction.
In reality, Maxine, you are calling for more violence and criminal activity. But, hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

oz

ps we will save the discussion about the drug wars affect at chipping away the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendmants of the US constitution.

Don't contries with lax or no drug laws have much less drug related crime?

Originally posted by Maxine
Read my main post again. Right through till the end if you can read.

Actually, that is impossible now because you felt the need to drastically edit it. An act of cowardice in my book.

oz

WTF is going on in here?:bugeye:

Maxine - 2 things:

1) Welcome

and

2) How the hell can you comment on something you have never tried?

I am sick and tired of druggies walking around slurring out how wonderful POT smoking is

Hmmm.. well I smoke pot and I like it. I dont quite recall walking down the street hollaring how great it is though *shrug* must be an Australian thang.
Look I understand watching someone throw their lives away from excessive drug use, believe me on this I do - I just dont understand how you can have such a firm stance on a subject when really you have no clue what your talking about.

Peace:m:

jus bcos u never tryd weed:m: dosnt mean u dont kno anything about it.
every single part the plant:m: itself from the stem 2 the leaf 2 the root has many amzing properties (other than mind altering). som of those fibers and oils can b used practically.

as 4 smoking anything. its a persons beeznass if they enjoy letting smok in2 their lungs.
im sur they kno that ifn they abuse the sacred plant:m: in such ways such as burning it and sucking in the smoke, that it will do damage 2 their sacred bodies.
but its a choice they make.
as soon as ur born, u begin 2 die.
if they feel the pain of damage 2 a body thats already dying anyway is so insignificant that it is worth the pleasur of the feeling they get from smoking, they will choose 2 smoke.

ther r also arguments about caffeen bein good 4 u in the way that if u dont use it, u wont hav the energy 2 accomplish ur daily tasks.
accomplishing ur daily tasks whil doing a little damage 2 ur sacred body(which has the ability 2 regenerate and heal anyway)
might b healther than
keeping ur body free from caffeen and never having the enregy 2 accomplish ur tasks which results in ur life passing right by u whil u sleep.
:) he he he ha ha:)

jus bcos u never tryd weed dosnt mean u dont kno anything about it.

True, you can know about the effects on others and other uses of the drug.
Untrue, you CANNOT make a sound judgement on something that you have never tried for yourself.

Ten bucks she'd love it if she tried it:D

Peace:m:

Originally posted by *stRgrL*
Ten bucks she'd love it if she tried it:D

lol:)
im sure she would, star.
i say we get her fucked up!

in fact all of u should try crack!
first rock free
on me!
and if u need more
com knock on my door.

peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeace
:)


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i don’t kno about anybody els, but i hav ppol that destroyed their lives over weed abuse, and ppol that r currently losing their focus and business becos of the addicitv properties of weed. som r looking 4 treatment 2 kick.

yes, weed.

this little drug that everybody seems 2 think is so harmless dos hav addictive properties 4 som ppol, and can b abused.

furthermor contrary 2 popular belif, in som ways, weed can b a gatway 2 other drugs such as crack.
in order 2 b a gatway, a drug must loos effect as a person adapts 2 it.

for example:
if u smok it the first tym, and get real high, and u constantly smok it, and still get the same effect, its not a gateway.
its only a gatway wen the effect diminishes after prolonged use.
ther4 u either need mor 2 get the sam effect, or look 2 mor powerful drugs 2 satisfy ur highs. like crack and heron.
jus as weed can b addictive 2 som whil not 2 others, weed can also function as a gatway 4 som, but not 4 others.

nevertheless, from my own studies, i hav found that the physical addictiv qualities of weed arnt nearly as fascinating as that of cocaine.

once, i saw a study of cocain addict
he was attached 2 som kind of brain monitor.
he was settled in a room with instructions 2 clear his thoughts.
afterwards, he was shown a variety of pictures
daily objects, naked woman, food, etc.
the monitor had a picture of his brain, and certain areas would change colors with different pictures.
after about 15 pictures, he was shown a picture of white powder cocain.
all of a sudden the picture of his brain started 2 realy light up bright yellow.

they wer also studying som kind of drug.
som guy that was a cocain addict had som kind of disease.
he was given a drug 4 his disease, and noticed that his physical cocain addiction subsided.
i don’t rember the drug, but I rember that it was 4 fighting som disease, and that its effect on cocain addiction was a pure coincidence.
so they continue 2 conduct studies on it.

hey som ppol enjoy drugs, som dont.
as 4 weather or not i would recommend that u try weed b4 u say anything about it?
never.
if possible, stay the hell away from it. thers no reason 2.

most of all definitely stay away from crack heads.
dont let them in ur house.
dont let them near ur stuff.
otherwise, the nex tym u walk in2 the pawnshop, ull c ur belongings displayed all over the place.

furthermore, wat amazes me is writers and artist that look 2 mind altering substances 4 inspiration in writing lyrics or whatever.
yet they still suck.
:rolleyes:

Ok, heres an inquiry. President Bush admitted to trying weed, but he never got any kind of effect from it. Now there is a tight drug war. My city went completely dry for about one month, and I live in HOUSTON. This is a big damn city. Well, the only end result was that prices have gone up, but not very much.

Their new tactic instead of Police intervention is TV ads. Now, Maxine, tell me this: how many times have you...

1) been driving in a drive-through and seen a girl on a bike in the line
2) found a gun in your house
3) Seen a security guard walk into a concert restroom and bust somebody


Truely, these kinds of ads that the government forces down your throat are ridiculous. You are correct that some people's lives are ruined, and that is tragic, but do you think that this happens to the majority of people? I know alot of people who got involved with heroine, and it truely did not matter. Their lives were shit anyway. They were shrivelling, squirming beings infesting this planet, and I might actually say that the experience showed them how worthless they are.

Originally posted by Slacker47
This is a big damn city. Well, the only end result was that prices have gone up
com 2 miami!

Originally posted by Slacker47
I know alot of people who got involved with heroine, and it truely did not matter.

now this here is one miracle i hav yet 2 c.
i never met 1 motherlover that started out normal, and continue 2 b normal whil fuching w heron on a daily basis.
amen

Oh, one more thing...

Drugs expand minds to such amazing lengths. There are so many people that do drugs. Poe, Beethoven, Bach, and so many artists. How can you say that we should completely outlaw drugs? There is a very clear alternative in my mind.

If drugs were legal, there could be regulations. I am aware that drugs would be more readily available, but did you see Traffic (the movie)? Do you know why that girl got into drugs? She stated that drugs were easier to get a hold of than alcohol at her age, and that is a very true statement. I know people at boarding school who go on drug binges because they have direct access to drugs. There needs to be a way to police drugs in a manner that is systematic, rather than busting random dealers in the shittiest parts of town.

What I am saying is this: yes, drugs hurt people, but those people were going to get fucked up anyway that they could. If you are that desparate to do cocaine or heroin, you have more problems to escape from than you addiction.

i never met 1 motherlover that started out normal, and continue 2 b normal whil fuching w heron on a daily basis.

Thats not what I meant. I meant that their lives were already fucked up. They tried to escape their problems with drugs. Society pushed them away, making them depressed and lonely. They were not smart, and did not have anything better to do. My point was that there are bigger problems than drugs because drugs can do alot of good, as well. America is so unaccepting, as we see in Maxines case.

She thinks that everyone that used anyform of drugs is stupid and dumb, but she used to smoke... How can she accuse anyone of doing wrong when she, herself, was just like them. You have to give to get. I completey understand her point of view, but there are more constructive ways of helping people then telling them to just stop because they are retarded. Maybe it isnt their fault.

Originally posted by Slacker47
She thinks that everyone that used anyform of drugs is stupid and dumb, but she used to smoke...
shes probably a drug addict and doesn’t even kno it if shes on meat or something.

thru my studies, iv found considerabl evidence that animal products such as meat and milk r extremly harmful 2 the human body, yet we continue 2 shovel it down our throats like thers no 2morro.

i don’t kno weather its addictive or not, nor do i kno y i cant get off of it even tho I really want 2.
wat i do kno is that i may not feel it, but every cell i my body is suffering from it, and the way i eat could really b considered suicide. even tho its nonintentional, the fact of the matter is, im killing my self.