Shut down failure

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  1. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    Hi

    Just now, I chose to shut down my XP using the Shut Down command, but the system couldn't turn off. What's the problem with this? I even have to manually restart it.
     
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  3. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    I had this problem with my laptop-- when I'd shut it down it would stay at the "Windows is shutting down" screen forever.

    I never did figure it out

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  5. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    My problem differs a bit from yours. The Windows is shutting down scren doesn't even show up......
     
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  7. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    Ah.

    You're on your own.
     
  8. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    *cry*
    (edit: no way I do that...)
     
  9. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    You could question a couple of things:

    When you shut down, are there alot of memory resident programs and processes? for instance in your task bar do you have alot of icons of programs that run at boot up etc.

    Another aspect is if you have a Ethernet LAN card, sometimes networked machines can take time to boot up, as well as shut down depending on if the connection is busy.
     
  10. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    All non-sytem application has been terminated that time. And besides, the thing happened for the first time to me, while it's been my habit to shut down the system while I haven't shut down my IMS application.
    About the connection to networking, Would you please explain a bit more? I was sure that I was running no net-related applications.....
     
  11. malkiri Registered Senior Member

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    Network connection shouldn't affect shutting down except in some rare badly written programs. Is this a consistent problem? My guess is that there's an application that's not shutting down. Hit ctrl-alt-del and shut down any applications that are hung. If that doesn't do it, try shutting down items in the processes tab (Stick to processes listed as owned by you, as opposed to System or some such).
     
  12. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    As I stated before, it happened only once, so, sorry if it's hard to find out the general cause....
    Not to mention that even now my PC is running normal again.
     
  13. plasticwingsmelting Banned Banned

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    Here's the cause of all your computer problems:


    YOU'RE USING WINDOWS!!!!!
     
  14. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for suggesting to keep a penguin..... I guess.....
     
  15. plasticwingsmelting Banned Banned

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    I wasn't suggesting anything.
     
  16. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I almost feel compelled to create an Advert:

    "Windows Users: Be charitable, Adopt a Penguin www.linux.org"
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    "A Penguin's not just for Christmas, it's for life"
     
  17. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I read something interesting about the safe shutdown procedure and the subsequent recovery start up that is typical of modern operating systems.

    Apparently the safe recovery and the safe shutdown procedure basically do the same thing. They designed a system that just lets the computer crash when it wants to shut down, instead of going through the tedious procedures of doing it safe. They still applied the recovery procedure during startup.

    Overall they decreased the time spend starting and shutting down, and the system was paradoxically more stable. I think they were applying it to internet servers if I remember correctly and these systems worked much more reliable than the normal ones. Maybe in the future something similar will be developed for regular operating systems on our own computers.
     
  18. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I had a bit of a re-think, If your using WinMe, 2000 or XP your system will have a RESTORE function.

    There is a possibility that at shutdown, the system saves all the Restore information before closing just incase you have to roll back to a previous install.

    Now if your drive has a lack of space, or perhaps if you have turned restore off, the system might not be able to handle what it's doing where it should have been doing a save.

    This might cause the hang.

    If you haven't turned off restore, then you might want to try doing so. (then you can delete c:/_RESTORE from a Commandline, which will free up space and potentially fix the problem.)
     
  19. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    The problems I've seen with this had to do with advanced power management.
     
  20. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    There is that to it Wes, in fact For those running XP you might want to check your power options as if "Hibernate" is enabled, windows will reserve a preportion of your harddrive thats the same size as your RAM to cache what ever is in there when the system hibernates.

    If you've got 1024mb of RAM then thats a whole GIGABYTE you can reclaim.

    Also I was looking for something else on a site:
    http://www.uninet.net/~blaisdel/whistler6.htm

    And found something on "Cleaning a pagefile during shutdown" which can increase the time at which the system shuts down.

    Also check the "Shut down faster" section.
     
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  21. curioucity Unbelievable and odd Registered Senior Member

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    Everyone, thanks for the suggestions. It's just a bit 'misfortune' that it hasn't happened for the second time, but I apply your suggestions anyway..... except for getting a penguin

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