Should western governments recognize Islam as dangerous?

It seems like in Africa it is common knowledge that Muslims are trouble makers, at least my two friends from Ghana and Ethiopia told me this. Yet in the US and United Kingdom it seems people refuse to admit it.

 

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I doubt the bolded statement is true. On one hand you have the surreal PC fantasy world where everyone can live in harmony and shouldn't be tarred with one prejudice or other, however on the other hand you have a "Minority" (This means a minority of the ethnic community that gets targeted) of people with such backgrounds that voice their concerns, or complaints louder than the indigenous citizenry and this itself causes conflict.

For instance I know that Terror suspects have been granted greater access to Human Rights lawyers or Foundations compared to those that are currently suffering but aren't seen as being under threat due to their social status and backgrounding. (If you are White and from a lowerclass backgrounding, then obviously you can't suffer abuse, can you?)

 

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http://vodpod.com/watch/4789048-eliot-spitzer-confronts-radical-muslim-cleric-iman-anjem-choudary

Yeah I'd say so.

 

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Perhaps they can also tell you that US is funding the weapons on both sides? The African problem mainly stems from the bullshit the British pulled, in my opinion.

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The right wing believes it, but they are often incoherent about the reasons. The liberals are still in denial.

 

I'm not sure what is meant by "Islam"?

I agree supremest memes (like racism memes) are dangerous. Islam, Xianity and Judaism, all promote Religious Supremism. Unfortunately for Muslims "Islam", pre say, has never gone through a classical reformation and thus Muslims continue to promote many ideals commonly found in any Bronze Age cultures (as expressed in the OT) - polygamy, underage brides, tax on belief, Blasphemy laws, superstition above rationalism, ect... for a few examples. Hell, if it weren't for the West they'd probably still be practicing an Institutionalized Slavery(and some Islamic Apologists think they still should!!).

A strong dose of Secular Education in our Western schools will probably snuff out most (if not all) of these ideas from "Western Islam". Not as a direct attack on Islam, but on superstitious thinking and religious supremacy itself. As for the ME, if our goals were to keep people in the ME backwards and ignorant, nothing could work better than leaving them to their Islam, once China and India run out of room, I'm confident they'll take care of the place appropriately.

 

I'd suggest that most Western governments have recognized that religions in general are dangerous. Hence the whole separation of church and state thing.

But, no, I wouldn't favor singling Islam out for any official condemnation on those grounds.

 

by denial I assume you mean are actually get its not a threat? it is not a threat. the reasons muslim countries dislike has little to do with Islam and a lot to do with our own actions. most countries in latin america have the same dim view of us for the same reasons.

 

I don't accept your reasoning. But I don't think it's appropriate for western governments to say anything negative about Islam either. We need them as allies, it would be a strategic mistake to recognize that Islam itself is full of violent and repugnant statements about anyone who isn't a Muslim.

 

I'm sorry that for some reason you need to see Islam as evil perhaps because it makes other beliefs of your easier but the simple fact is if you took Islam out of these places and replaced it with another faith and kept everything the same the outcome would be more or less the same.


Islam is no more dangerous than any other faith.

 

You are a genius! You have discovered:

PJ's Law of Religious-Historical Invariance:
That the form of any particular religious culture has little effect on the outcome of a society, or on the nature of it's interactions with other societies.

What else doesn't religion do?

 

If you are for Islam why would you deny the obvious?

 

Then how did Mexico and the rest of Latin America become Catholic oh wise one?

 

Because they were conquered by the Spanish, who were Catholic? But I'm sure that would have no effect on the birth rate or anything.

 

It totally changed the nature of the culture and its interactions with other cultures.

 

According to this logic European's faith in White Supremacy was no more or less dangerous than Buddhism.

See, I think it was.

 

There is a 50 nation military coalition of westerners with the most advanced technology in the world fighting these guys

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who live in mud huts like these:

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for the last 10 years and they still haven't got more than 20% of the place under their control

Thats not how I would define "refuse to admit it"

Clearly they are shit scared of Muslims.

 

Hey, it's not my theory, it's PJ's. I don't agree that religions make no difference to a culture or society.

 

It's incorrect to say we are at war with Muslims.