View Full Version : Should we get more Moderators?


ElectricFetus
04-18-04, 09:31 PM
I think we need at lest one dedicated moderator for each sub-forum. This would:
1. Get improperly placed threads moved or deleted quicker.
2. Lock flaming or trolling threads quicker.
3. Have kook thread combined and clear space.

I original was only for getting more moderators for specific sub-forums, but by getting a moderator for every sub-forum would allow for the occasional crap thread in even the nicest of sub-forums to get dealt with quickly.

CounslerCoffee
04-18-04, 10:20 PM
Yes. I think several mods are needed. I think Pseudoscience and Parapsychology should both have one, the same goes for some other sections. I would also say that Free Thoughts needs one, and I haven't seen Congrats* in about forever... Should A&C get a new one to?

*Last Activity: 12-31-03 04:54 PM

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

certified psycho
04-19-04, 08:19 AM
There should at least 2 mods per sciforums.com sub-forums.

Dr Lou Natic
04-19-04, 09:17 AM
Is there a time limit on this poll wcf?
If not it will just last forever and be ignored.

spuriousmonkey
04-19-04, 09:41 AM
Do we have any candidate moderators for every subforum?

I guess I could 'volunteer' for the biology subforum, but Fetus is probably also aiming for that one.

ElectricFetus
04-19-04, 11:31 AM
No man just keep my sticky I'll be happy with that. :)

crazymikey
04-19-04, 12:38 PM
I think I should be moderator of "pseudoscience" forum, for obvious reasons ;)

ElectricFetus
04-19-04, 12:40 PM
crazymikey,

If they elect a kook here, that will be the day! :D

Dr Lou Natic
the time limit is when it reaches quorum, porfiry decides it and set up elections or not, and this thread is closed. As I have mentioned before it take much longer then one week to finish, and I'm seriously not sure how long it takes.

crazymikey
04-19-04, 01:38 PM
That day has already happend ;)

ElectricFetus
04-19-04, 02:26 PM
Really name a kook moderator? A kook being one who comes here obsessed with only one issue or subject and lacks much or any standing in logic.

but all this is http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/images/smilies/offtopic.gif

Now I count 16 sub-forums without moderators or mods that have not log on in over a month. that alot of election thing sure will be fun around here if that happend. I should get the signs and banners ready!

Persol
04-19-04, 05:57 PM
I don't think each subforum needs an individual mod. Some subforums (computer/tech) just need someone to peek in every once in awhile.

Ozymandias
04-19-04, 06:27 PM
I think free thoughts should not have a moderator, as goofyfish is already doing what needs to be done there, and having a full-time moderator would be unnecessary, but that some subforums need an updated moderator (arts & culture) or at least a part-time moderator, to check in every so often, as Persol remarked.

crazymikey
04-20-04, 06:57 AM
Goofyfish is already actively moderating the sub-forums. So no, we don't need any more moderators.

ElectricFetus
04-20-04, 07:45 AM
we could elect alot of the moderators we already have to cover several subforums, hey it happend with CounslerCoffee.

Stryder
04-20-04, 08:16 AM
As mentioned previously (in another thread) I'm up for Pseudoscience, and could probably Push Paraspycology.

My ruleset would be simple: Constructive Criticism is welcome!, but personal heckling will be dealt with by being put on the Howling Monkey™ list of feces throwers.
Okay, it's not so much a real list, but the aspect of heckling, mockery and insults isn't tolerable as it tends to degrade the levels of intellect to below that of one of Fluids Rocks.

I also point out that I will not single one individual out because of their comments on a subject and if they differ from my own understanding of events (This is something rare that true moderators should understand and take from Philosophy in the sense that if you can not see something from multiple angles then your not seeing something for what it truly is, but what you hypothesis it is.)

The sections in question however do need a clean up from people insulting one another. I know Goofyfish has been doing a good job, but the poor guy has been turned into an Octopus with the amount of editing he has to do between all the subforums he swims through. (Using a Tenticle to moderate each forum)

With all that said, I direct you now, back to the current thread :D

ElectricFetus
04-20-04, 08:45 AM
What level of intelect is there in Pseudoscience?!?!

Persol
04-20-04, 06:01 PM
The earlier mentioned rocks...

certified psycho
04-20-04, 07:46 PM
I will vote for anybody expect they are not out to get me for any deeds I have commited in the past:D:D:D

gendanken
04-20-04, 08:51 PM
I nominate Gendanken for the History section.

How now, what say you?

jinchilla
04-20-04, 09:18 PM
I seriously don't think gandanken could ever be impartial. Unlike Xev, huh?

jinchilla
04-20-04, 09:20 PM
Maybe the mod should not visit/post in the sub they mod unless dictated by duty, maybe....

ElectricFetus
04-21-04, 08:20 AM
People this is not a nomination thread this is just to see if the people want more mods, not who.

jinchilla,

Maybe you mean the mods don't often moderate sub-forums that they are assigned to, or in fact many mods are limited and can only mod sub-forums they are assigned to.

Stryder
04-21-04, 08:23 AM
I think he was suggesting Mod's not posting content within the forums so as not to create a biased opinion, belief or understanding of a subject.

however in certain respects the reason for a Mod being a mod, should be the ability to refrain from personal views clouding their judgement over how someones post is handled.

ElectricFetus
04-21-04, 08:30 AM
That’s absurd! A mod can post as long as they remain objective and fair, if they have the be bias on a subject likely to end in flames then they should not speak up until is closing time.

CounslerCoffee
04-21-04, 01:25 PM
That’s absurd! A mod can post as long as they remain objective and fair, if they have the be bias on a subject likely to end in flames then they should not speak up until is closing time.

Didja' notice that I don't post in WE&P at all anymore? Just asking for a debate leads to flame because it turns into "Why are you mod," or "You're so stupid," and it can just be really annoying.

-- The Grand Dragon Gizzard

Votorx
04-21-04, 02:00 PM
I nominate myself for the Pseudoscience and/or Parasychology boards.

Rappaccini
04-21-04, 06:34 PM
Do you read?

ElectricFetus
04-21-04, 06:36 PM
CounslerCoffee,

Just tell them to shut up or you will smack them up side the head ;) No seriously I will consider what you said then.

Zarkov
04-24-04, 06:36 PM
There should be moderators to moderate the moderators, IMO

Rappaccini
04-24-04, 07:45 PM
... way too complicated.

Absane
04-24-04, 07:47 PM
Zarkov - yes, but who will moderate the moderators moderating the moderators? And who will moderate them? Ad infinitum. Maybe you are thinking of a sort of "checks and balances" system we have set up in the US.

Zarkov
04-24-04, 09:39 PM
IMO, the only fair moderator is an "intelligent" computer..... does not exist at the moment, but this is the only way to get any reasonable input treated in an unbiased manner. ( a true scientist would suffice, but these real humans are very rare )

If world government was mandated this way, we could remove war from all agendas.

At present in this forum, as in all others, certain people rule the roost, and they have a vested interest to maintain this position (usually by foul means, which they are allowed to do with impunity)
They are the arbitrators of right and wrong thoughts... in this SCIENCE forum, they know more...... HA HA HA, what a joke this whole charade is.

Open discussion is stifled, oh it is 'off topic' is the moderator excuse..... failing to understand that nothing in reality really has a topic... all science (the study of reality) is an integrated whole and by starting in one corner one should be able to examine the weave as the threads are pulled.

Ex-spurts are the bain of science... peer review... suppresses free thinking, and even though a poster may not have his thoughts 100% clear, even 1% clear leads to discussion which will soon clear up some problems, leading to maybe 5% clear. This unfolding is the process of science IMO. And we all have this unique opportunity through this media, to communicate around the world, if we are freely allowed.

This forum is treated as an encyclopedia... it is all written... "stick to the page and NO, we are not interested in your minds understanding", is a well voiced mantra here and there.

But HO HUM, understandings come from minds FREELY bouncing off each other......


Sorry, all I can see in places like this is EGO.... these are not places of science.

I recommend all posters voice their opposition to control by "know betters",
( I do not approve of agressive or rude or demeaning behaviour... just censurship of rational thought )

sargentlard
04-24-04, 11:28 PM
I volunteer for wherever needed...I have lost twice already and my scorecard is feeling empty now...it needs 3 failures to be happy again.

Rappaccini
04-25-04, 12:10 AM
Don't be so optimistic.

James R
04-25-04, 12:14 AM
But Zarkov, you have your own forum. You have no reason to complain. You're the king of your own (unvisited) domain.

Rappaccini
04-25-04, 12:44 AM
It's an ideal world, after all.

Zarkov
04-25-04, 01:06 AM
>> But Zarkov, you have your own forum. You have no reason to complain. You're the king of your own (unvisited) domain.

Typical sophist.... because I have my own house, (fascist says) I can not visit anyone else !!!!!!!

my point is proved beyond doubt..... some people really do not understand FREEDOM and FRATERNITY, they show no RESPECT.

Now how is a freedom loving person going to be able to exist in a fascist state ? ????????

Zarkov
04-25-04, 02:39 AM
Classic example of fascist power taken from Physics and Math stream, gravitational constant thread....

>>> James R
Just this guy, you know? (4,370 posts)

Today, 03:05 PM
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David: Pay no attention to Zarkov. He has his own half-baked "theory" of gravity, which has been proved incorrect and useless.

Zarkov
Registered User (457 posts)

Today, 04:08 PM
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>> "theory" of gravity, which has been proved incorrect and useless.

If only James R, there is only positive results, mmmmh, but beyond your understanding, sigh. Not one error has been highlighted....


James R
Just this guy, you know? (4,370 posts)

Today, 04:17 PM
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Zarkov, your post is off-topic. Take it somewhere else.<<<<<<<<<<<<<


You wish to tolerate this ???????????

Stryder
04-25-04, 05:59 AM
Zarkov,
I'm not going to suggest I've read your posts or what they are on, or why JamesR has responded, however I will usher a guess, such comments are usually applied to people that some of us have differences of opinion based upon how many times a subject can be proven to be different than that persons understanding of the subject and how that person doesn't re-examine how they perceive their subject matter.

In instances of that you either have someone that hasn't computed those factors properly for what ever reason, or you have someone that tends to be a troll who argues black is white, when it's white.

Perhaps JamesR has mistaken you for a Troll, none the less if you have an "Alternative theory" and it contradicts the current universal understanding of the fact, your obviously going to get comments going against the grain, unless of course you post in a different forum that allows those contradictions to exist and doesn't get you being strung up as a heretic to their(meaning the current forums) belief system.

Zarkov
04-25-04, 06:06 AM
>> you have an "Alternative theory" and it contradicts the current universal understanding of the fact,

On the contrary, Quantum Electrodynamics backs up my whole paper. James thinks my analysis is trivial, however it is more correct than any current established theory. For example I have asked for a theoretical proof of why the Moon orbits the Earth.... there is none, my analysis explains this and what is and what could be. Gravity is a push reaction.


>> doesn't get you being strung up as a heretic to their(meaning the current forums) belief system.

Now I am not stalking James R, in all cases he is on my case, because I am against relativity. My call OK.

Closet Philosopher
04-25-04, 06:14 PM
I volounteer to be a new mod. I can take any forum, since I have a broad experience in most of the topics. I am one of the people on the forum who does more reading of topics than posting. I real a lot of the philosophy forum, but I almost never post. I'll gladly take the human science and biology forums since I am going to university for it. I feel I am a fair person and a good candidate :)

gendanken
04-25-04, 07:10 PM
Jinchilla:
I seriously don't think gandanken could ever be impartial. Unlike Xev, huh?
Pardon, but your gendanken is as impartial as cyanide- give her the reins and watch her ride that history section in complete fairness.

What is with you people? I was up for a vote long ago and attested how many times that I would never delete without warning, edit without notice, or report without having applied a three strikes rule?

And I lost to Tiassa. Tiassa.

Fetus:
People this is not a nomination thread this is just to see if the people want more mods, not who.


More mods imply people. People require entities. Entities require handles. Handles are memembers. There are live people behind those member names in the roster- Gendanken is one of them.

We have members here saying this place needs more moderators. There is a vacancy on that History thread and allowing me to moderate that cold, chilly spot there suffering neglect would be something like Alexander passing through Egypt and raising a great libray in the rubble.

Rappaccini
04-25-04, 07:48 PM
Was there really that much rubble in his passing?
As I recall, many of them (the Egyptians) recognized him as a god... or am I mistaken?

gendanken
04-25-04, 09:41 PM
Rapiccini:
Was there really that much rubble in his passing?

Well, if one beats the shit out of something before fixing it of course there is going to be distaster in the passing.


As I recall, many of them (the Egyptians) recognized him as a god... or am I mistaken?
The priests received him as a god and either way Egyptians were always used to god kings so naturally...
The Greeks issued an official proclamation and named him the son of Zeus- even the Romans accepted his 'divinity'.


Pause.

Was this some cheap way of you hinting that I may be shooting for god status, Rapacockorach?

Rappaccini
04-25-04, 10:15 PM
Oh, no, Genderless. I'm not that dry.

James R
04-26-04, 01:55 AM
Zarkov:

On the contrary, Quantum Electrodynamics backs up my whole paper.

Your "paper" has nothing to do with Quantum Electrodynamics, and I doubt you have any understanding of that subject whatsoever.

James thinks my analysis is trivial, however it is more correct than any current established theory.

From what I have seen of it, the parts which are correct are a simple reproduction of existing theory, but the parts which are wrong are all your own work.

For example I have asked for a theoretical proof of why the Moon orbits the Earth.... there is none, my analysis explains this and what is and what could be.

This is an easy one. The Moon orbits the Earth because the Earth's gravity attracts the Moon.

Gravity is a push reaction.

You have yet to show that in any sense. Perhaps you should start a thread on it.

Now I am not stalking James R, in all cases he is on my case, because I am against relativity. My call OK.

Do you really think I care if <b>you</b> are against relativity? I'd expect nothing less from you, Zarkov. What I care about is when you answer questions about normal physics with your own incorrect theories, as if they are accepted science. You're dishonest, and that is what I don't like.

Zarkov
04-26-04, 04:01 AM
>> This is an easy one. The Moon orbits the Earth because the Earth's gravity attracts the Moon.

Because, because !!! that is no answer. By the way the Sun's 'gravity' attracts the Moon twice as much as the Earth's 'gravity'.

You amaze me

>> You're dishonest, and that is what I don't like.

Show me an example, I would like to see some sort of proof.

James R
04-26-04, 06:22 AM
Zarkov:

By the way the Sun's 'gravity' attracts the Moon twice as much as the Earth's 'gravity'.

Yes, but the Sun's gravity also attracts the Earth. Both the moon and the Earth are in orbit around the Sun. This is fairly basic physics.

You amaze me

Why, thankyou.

>> You're dishonest, and that is what I don't like.

Show me an example, I would like to see some sort of proof.

You know what you're doing, Zarkov. But just for you, I'll remind you next time you post something false as if it is true and accepted by the general scientific community. Ok?

Zarkov
04-26-04, 07:00 AM
>> Yes, but the Sun's gravity also attracts the Earth. Both the moon and the Earth are in orbit around the Sun. This is fairly basic physics.


Mmmmmh, now the Moon orbits in a plane similar to the Earth's orbital plane, and these planes are approx orthogonal to the Sun's / Earth's magnetic axis. So there is a time in the Moon's orbit when it is travelling an almost direct radial path towards the Sun.

Now why does it stop and continue orbiting the Earth ? when the Sun is pulling it twice over

Avatar
04-26-04, 07:28 AM
Pseudoscience Forum Screams For A MODERATOR!!!
please... *snif*
there are several threads there that have gone totally mental and few dedicated insane spammers (crazymikey) keep trashing them
there must be a person besides Porfiry that can lock these kind of threads

whitewolf
04-26-04, 07:39 AM
If large groups of people didn't need supervision, life would be great! But whatever made us wanted to make things more interesting.

Good threads keep going crappy not only because the same idiots post in them but because other people respond!

More mods. I volunteer my time and abilities.

Closet Philosopher
04-26-04, 11:38 AM
Perhaps a thread should be opened for the people that want to become mods since the poll obviously states that we need more of them.

SwedishFish
04-26-04, 12:36 PM
i'd consider volunteering for the biology forum. it doesn't need much moderation which is good since i don't plan on doing much moderating. only in the macro.

Closet Philosopher
04-27-04, 12:23 PM
I could easily take on the:
Philosophy forum - I know it is popular, but since I spend so much time on sciforums, I can do it
Biology forum - I might go to university for this and it is one of my best subjects. It does not need much moderation, but it still needs one
Human Science - again, doesn't need much moderating, but I would gladly do it
Pseudoscience - Needs a mod, i'd do it

Well, obviously there are other forums i'd do which are taken by responsible mods. I'm assuming that the mods all do free thoughts since there are so many posts. I'm up for the job. I probably spend a lot more time on this forum than most people.

whitewolf
04-27-04, 01:00 PM
I'm on Sciforums a few times a day (sad, I know), and I manage to read threads in each forum within a week (absolutely lifeless). So I can take on whatever is left over.

ElectricFetus
04-29-04, 06:59 PM
I am sooooo tired of seeing kooks post there psuedoscience out side of the subforum we made for them! we need more moderators that will move all the crap right away to were it belongs!
Stuff like this should have been moved weeks ago:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35193
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35490
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=35469
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=31677

Avatar
04-29-04, 07:24 PM
you'd be surprised but recently I've seen such threads at the Pseudoscience forum, that I feel sorry for it too
but I'm totally with you on that pseudosci in sci forums, especially the astronomy forum

goofyfish
04-29-04, 07:45 PM
Moved.
Moved.
Not moved.
Moved.

You just have to let us know.

:) Peace.

ElectricFetus
04-29-04, 07:50 PM
so what I just place my complants here? or where, do I need to pm you?

goofyfish
04-29-04, 07:55 PM
PM or Site Feedback would be the way to go.
Please remember I am "off duty" most weekends.
No, really, I have a life ouside of SciForums.

:m: Peace.

Persol
04-29-04, 08:01 PM
So, what exactly would a pseudoscience mod do? Basically just delete insults/spams?

While I wouldn't mind a mod who deleted nonsensical posts, I wonder if that is what's actually wanted...

goofyfish
04-29-04, 08:03 PM
So, what exactly would a pseudoscience mod do?Drink heavily.

Persol
04-29-04, 08:11 PM
When was I elected mod?

Rappaccini
04-29-04, 08:13 PM
Eh, you were?

Persol
04-29-04, 08:24 PM
*whoosh*

(That's the sound of a joke going over your head)

CounslerCoffee
04-30-04, 01:54 AM
Drink heavily.

And drink constantly. Just don't log onto sciforums while drunk. I've learned a few things from doing that.

Avatar
04-30-04, 03:54 AM
And drink constantly. Just don't log onto sciforums while drunk. I've learned a few things from doing that.
and also when you're high up there :m:
though it was a very interesting discussion back then... :cool: :p

Rappaccini
04-30-04, 08:56 PM
*whoosh*


Oh, now I get it.

CounslerCoffee
05-10-04, 12:57 AM
though it was a very interesting discussion back then...

Avatar, I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Dr Lou Natic
05-10-04, 01:20 AM
I think we need more than a pseudoscience mod.
I think we need someone who's only purpose is to move threads to the cesspool.
And I don't think this should be voted on because it requires an exceptionally sharp eye for mediocrity, the likes of which is hard to come by in the natural world and won't necessarrily be posessed by the most popular person, it would in fact be highly unusual if that was the case (you know, on account of how rare such an eye is).
Fortunately for you, I was blessed with this magic eye and should therefore naturally get the position.
Productivity would increase ten-fold, I don't even need to look inside threads to know they belong in the cesspool, the eye is that damn good. Take this offer, or leave it at your own peril.... ok peril's a strong word, mild discomfort? Yeah, take this offer or leave it at your own mild discomfort :mad:

CounslerCoffee
05-10-04, 01:24 AM
I say we still need a mod for Arts & Culture. We should get one for Free Thoughts to. But on the plus side we got a new super-mod.

ElectricFetus
05-10-04, 04:02 AM
I think we can close this thread now.