San Francisco bans Happy Meals with toys Wow, first parents can't beat their own kids and now parents aren't even given the freedom to feed their little piggy's fat laden MickeyDs, which is the only known scientifically proven means to balance a high sugar cola diet! Seriously, do you support outright banning Happy Meals?
I would rather support better quality foods to be made for the kids and keep the toys as a nice attraction to buy.
Face the facts..If McD's suddenly became health food central, how many kids would want to go? McD's relies on kids wanting their junk food..They try to change for the "Better", they will lose money hand over fist. besides, aren't potatoes vegetables? I do agree with Cosmic though..The toys should be kept seperate.
Unless he's talking about the user Happy Meals, who I have not yet had the pleasure of meeting. Though I would be in support of banning him if he is a threat to our children.
this is a tough one. on one hand, i'm all for freedom and supply and demand, and people being able to dig their own graves or otherwise. but when it comes to children, one the basic responsibilities a parent has is to provide nutrition for them. if you want to say that not feeding your children nutritional food is neglect and abuse, then i'm all for that, and that would certainly effect the supply and demand for mcdonald's happy meals. but if an adult wants to hurt or even kill themselves by pounding down extra value meals, then i think they should have the right to do that. just don't ask me to pay for their hospital bills or disability payments. a couple of years ago i took classes to become a foster parent, and i'll never forget this one couple that was going through the classes with me. both were obese, and constantly complaining about their medical/health issues. while they guzzled diet soda, brought fast food to class with them, and snarfed up all of the junk food provided by the administrators. they were so fucking disgusting, and i was appalled because i knew that any child they had in their custody would be subject to the same diet. i would have rather been sitting next to a crack addict. at least crack addicts don't share their drugs with their kids, and most likely would not qualify as foster parents. very disturbing.
I think Happy Meals is a spammer...Sells midget porn videos, I think. Not so much a threat to children, just the other "lil" people.
I'm in favor of banning the San Francisco government. lol Seriously though, I'm generally against government, but for local control. I'd say, let McDonalds do whatever they want, but don't let them advertise to children. Madison avenue and advertising is scientifically proven to work on the brains of small children, which in turn influences parents. . . Parents are weak weak weak. If you have ever had a child, you would know why. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! At that point, it really isn't about "free choice" in the consumer market now is it? It becomes just as coercive and violent as government, doesn't it? Where does this evil elitist eugenicists streak against the freedom to have children come from? I never knew this hostility toward breeding existed on this forum? Where did this come from?
Considering that 50 years ago people cooked food themselves, you could suggest a ban on "fast food" could aid in increase attempts at home cooking (and likely increase cases of Botulism) I suppose you could suggest that having a pre-portion cheap food source aids the poor, lazy and illiterate (in fact considering the nature of the illiterate, perhaps they should have pictographic explanations about the ingredients content since they can't read), lessens the potential self-inflicted health issues through food poisoning, while also granting a better dietary control (After all it's suppose to contain "on average" what's listed on the label. ) I wonder if Henry Ford ever considered that the production line would stem from the manufacturing of cars to fast food outlets.
I can't support banning fast food or even kids happy meals. I think it just comes down to education - we need to better educate the public on health issues and then it's up to them I suppose. I also hate to see very obese parents stuffing their face with fast food with their massively obese kids doing likewise. But, it's their life and their kids. Without taking away parenting rights, I'm not sure what the solution would be other than education.
Don't be silly. We barely eat any sugar at all in the USA. Now, high-fructose corn syrup, on the other hand... A lot of these dietary elitist arguments miss the reasons that we are flooded with cheapo hfcs foods in the first place, which is the War on Hunger started by Nixon. There used to be a considerable number of hungry poor people in the US (particularly children), and high-fructose corn syrup and other processed foods provide cheap, high-calorie food to fill that demand. Yeah, they're unhealthy, but what, exactly, is a poor single mother supposed to feed her kids? It ain't gonna be organic quinoa, free-range meat and locally-grown heirloom vegetables, that's for sure. Those of us who can afford to eat well may look down on it, but the fact of the matter is that a Happy Meal is cheap, hot food that will fill a kid up and put a smile on their face. I'd think very, very long and hard about coming up with a suitable replacement before taking that option away from people. Unhealthy food is strongly preferable to hunger, and in historical terms it's a god damned miracle that even very poor families can feed their kid a cheeseburger, fries and a beverage, along with toys and entertainment, prepared for you and with no clean-up duties, for the equivalent of 30 minutes work at minimum wage. The marketting of unhealthy foods (and particularly soda and juice) directly at kids needs to be reduced, though. And the idea that fruit juice is "healthy" (while soda is not) needs to be outright demolished. A glass of apple juice is every bit as bad for you as a glass of Coca-Cola. And it doesn't even have caffeine or bubbles!
Now, that is a paradigm shift! You work in McDonald's marketing don't you? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Are you in favour of making heroin legal as well? Clearly it all comes down to education with heroin as well.
I agree with this only in the cases of adults. However, marketing toward children is far more deceptive than it is toward adults, based on both the content being marketed and the naivety of the audience being marketed to. The toys are marketed toward an age group that doesn't know better and isn't expected to. I honestly don't see this as being much different from when joe camel, the cartoon character, was being used as a tool to attract underage smokers.
The toy can be purchased without buying the food. Unlike Joe Camel's potential buyers, the kids (usually between the ages of 3 and 7) who actually want the toys are too young to walk down the street into a fast food place and purchase a Kid's Meal on their own without their parents' knowledge. Parents buy these meals for their kids, all they have to do is not buy them. As a kid I enjoyed kid's meals whether I got a toy or not, I still preferred it to eating at home. But more often than not when I asked for a kid's meal from some fast food place my mother would say no and that was the end of that. There was nothing I could do about it besides whine. But that didn't make chicken nuggets and french fries appear. It isn't fair for kids like I used to be who do not have weight problems to no longer be able to enjoy "terrible for them" but "tastes great to them" food and a toy. There is nothing wrong with the occasional indulgence. They shouldn't be punished for other people's poor parental decisions.
