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caffeine_fubar
03-30-04, 05:45 PM
In recent technolgocial advances, someone has produced a new internet system that will completely make this internet that you are using to view this at this exact moment, completely obsolete.
This mans name is Tim Berners-Lee. This is the same man that created the world-wide-web.
The Semantic Web is ran inmostly XML, HTML, and RDF.
This internet will not only search the websites that are, for instance if you are englsh, the english websites, but will also completely search the rest of the websites on the net and translate them into english with the search variables given. This all can be done in less than a few seconds.
This new internet will make the net you are using now probably dissapear by 2009 or so.

Search the web for Semantic Web... I will post more on this internet in the next day or so.

Can someone tell me something of the following?

How much RAM/Computer Hardware and MHz would you need to run this type of internet? Remember... this internet makes this net seem like going through piles of unnamed books looking for information.

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This Semantic Web is ran through voice only or possibly with an alternate "older" mode which is typing. It will, lets say if you ask it when is the next football game, ask you where, type, and many other questions to narrow your search...
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Will the web be able to support gaming?

Will the new nano-tech that microsoft has invested 50% of all research into (they have basically perfected nano-tech... OMG) be able to advance games into a near-reality visual?

If you want to know more about this nano tech:
They now have watches with as much ram as my computer at home... and it can project a screen and keyboard for net use...
NASA's biggest and most advanced computer can now fit in a toaster...
Chips being created at 2-3 atoms in size...
Technology doubles in every 17 months or so... YEAH RIGHT.. Bill Gates claimed that that is an old rule and will now be obsolete. It now will multiply MANY more times than 2.
Its like going from horse and buggy to teleportation in a day or two.

Any comments?

Maia
03-30-04, 05:49 PM
Chips created at 2-3 atoms in size?

And where did you get this particular quote? :bugeye:

caffeine_fubar
03-31-04, 01:30 AM
My father, a teacher at a local highschool here in alaska, went to a technology meeting, and saw this website and the stats of their improvements and such. These chips are the smallest ever created.

The quote was from a meeting with Bill Gates, sort of at a technology show.

By the year 2007, the net we use today will be gone. Fossil Watches and Microsoft are investing big in this research, so now is the time to buy stocks =D.

God i cant wait.... I will try to get more information on the subject and possibly an official website....

ElectricFetus
03-31-04, 04:22 AM
Actually if I remember the SciAm article, the semantic web would run underneath our web, not over it. The semantic web would allow AI to research and do the web surfing for you, allowing for much more effective web searching. Lets say I’m researching a virus, a semantic web agent program from my computer could search the Internet for all relevant information on the virus, organize it and not display irrelevant sites with great accuracy. The agent can actually “read” and understand the meaning of the content on a web site due to semantic web technology. The agent can then reply to me all relevant information in neat concise order, practically doing the report for me! Doing hours of human web searching and data organizing in minutes or seconds.

I don't think the Semantic Web requires much computing power then we have available and affordable today, the problem is that it requires very advance programming an universal standards use. Just as we have html today a new coding standard may be needed for the semantic web.

androgen
03-31-04, 03:48 PM
blech, why can't other languages die already. english is plenty enough. and i dont say that because english is my language, my first language is not english ... but one language should be enough for the planet.

caffeine_fubar
03-31-04, 08:08 PM
Yes... The semantic web running UNDER this web actually makes more sense... thank you fetus.

Another little bit of info i picked up... By the year 2007, 1 gig of ram will cost approxametly (spelling bleh) 2 cents. This nano-tech is very interesting...

They have glasses the wil read other languages, and both tell you it in your language and display it across your eyeglasses.

Chips to stick in your ears that will translate all other languages....

And my favorite, serf the web through glasses by simply looking at the glasses and doing a specified movement to "click" the mouse. Imagine the research while in-school. This is amazing stuff...

But... Religion. Everything ties in with religion in this article. Think of "branding" as said in the bible. People will no longer use credit cards, they will use a public "branding" system to identify you and charge to your account. They can track anyone. With atom sized chips, this is entirely possible and probable. Is this a "mark of the beast" or is it simply a good way of keeping track of things?
Imagine the following examples:
GOOD:
You can find missing persons and criminals by simply accessing government satellites... The gps chips would make this a breeze. Forget missing people.
BAD:
The government can more tightly control people and imagine the invasion of privacy that would absolutely never be known of. They could have cameras all over the place and you would never know.

I will never allow myself to be branded for any reason. I am staying clean (besides the tatoo im designing lol)

ElectricFetus
03-31-04, 09:40 PM
I don't think many of those concepts are part of the semantic web technology, semantic web tech is limited to semantics: making web sites text and data understandable to AI.

Dr Lou Natic
04-02-04, 05:05 AM
This will be a truely significant advancement in the field of viewing pornography.
No longer will searching for 'scat eaters' retrieve scientific reports on the fecal examinations of giant anteaters.
What an age we live in.

caffeine_fubar
04-02-04, 05:06 PM
Thats... uhhh... nice to know...

navjot
04-06-04, 02:36 AM
It's all about information. It's all there. Piles of documents. But how do we perceive information? Talk of Bill gates and the first two words that will come to our mind is MicroSoft and AniTrust but the current info web doesn't pose these striking relations in front of as our brain thinks. Our brain tries to think of everything as interlinked snapshots or images. The memory experts can conform this hypothesis. The problem is people couldn't visualize the maze of text links as a real web. It just has got information and no contexts or realtions.

Everytime you search on Google, the results come. you click on the links and
go away. But you might have noted that there is one more link "RELATED" that appears next to the link. Ask google and they will confirm that hardly anybody clicks that link. Nobody loves to go through mazes of text links to find how one link is related to another. So, graphical representation of the information and it's related information sources is desired.

The information presented will be like a screen in front of molecular scientist.. molecules represented as bubbles connected with bonds/links OR it can be like the geographocal map will roads linking places. Then we can follow the map...

and what would information be like text/ images/animations/movies or even text converted to either of 3 formats mentioned above to render to persons who has no time to or hate to read :-)

That will be like giving "meaning" to the web - Semantic Web.
May be somthing like TouchGraph

Navjot Singh

MiTo
04-06-04, 03:00 PM
How much RAM/Computer Hardware and MHz would you need to run this type of internet? Remember... this internet makes this net seem like going through piles of unnamed books looking for information.

It's not much about ram and cpu speed as it is about your internet connection speed. I guess most of todays pc's would run such applications with no problem ;) (512M-1G ram and >2Ghz -->>max)



Will the web be able to support gaming?

why not, everything would still be on servers around the globe, game servers wouldn't change much, they are something 'detached' from www

Will the new nano-tech that microsoft has invested 50% of all research into (they have basically perfected nano-tech... OMG) be able to advance games into a near-reality visual?

I don't know about Microsoft and it's investments, but what I do know is that in a few years time we 'll have almost completly realistic gaming

:D

navjot
04-06-04, 11:42 PM
Web?? Even the wireless networks have started supporting gaming. Watch out for the market in japan. korea and some parts of europe, they are already doing streaming and online gaming on cell phones.

Fraggle Rocker
04-08-04, 01:22 AM
blech, why can't other languages die already. ... one language should be enough for the planet.Yes you're absolutely right. And that language is Chinese.

Simple grammar and syntax makes it easy for everyone to learn -- no tense, number, gender, etc. Only two parts of speech, nouns and verbs, with a couple of generic "particles" that can be used to clarify complicated constructions. Self-contained -- the number of foreign words assimilated into Chinese is probably less than ten. Proven -- it's been in continuous use for several thousand years and has adapted to science, politics, economics, psychology, and everything else that has popped up, yet continues to be richly expressive for poetry and literature.

The phonetics isn't nearly as difficult as people make out. The writing sucks, but there is a perfectly good, standard, phonetic system using the familiar Roman alphabet.

English is a very difficult language. Just based upon my own observation, it's a lot harder for non-native speakers to master than Chinese is. I know people who have lived here since they were three years old, and they still can't figure out how to correctly use "the," "an," and our bewildering collection of nearly meaningless prepositions.

Language shapes thought. Chinese is far more versatile than English. People who are capable of shaping their thoughts in Chinese have a tremendous advantage over us.

Dr Lou Natic
04-08-04, 03:07 AM
chinese definatly sounds funny though. You know how people mock languages with jibberish but its obvious which language it is that they are mocking by the sound? Like chinese is drawn out like "hizing zing waaaaaah, hajimi nnyaaaaaah" and japanese is short firm halting barks like 'hich! hu! sunning! aik!" and french is like "miniminiminimini ze?" with a question mark at the end always and german is angry etc etc.... what is the jibberish-mock of english? I've never heard it done. Like someone trying to sound 'english' while not speaking the language.
What are the recurring themes of english that non-english people would pick up on and mock?