Self-defense

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by fadingCaptain, Jan 14, 2003.

  1. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    Last night I heard a noise come from downstairs at about 6 am. My wife heard it also...

    Today when I left for work I saw that somebody had yanked or pushed on our door to the point of stripping some of the wood. It did not look like a wedge had been used...strange.

    Anyway, I am not sure if someone was trying to rob us or what...but it has scared us.

    I have never owned a gun and I am not going to buy one because of this.

    So...should I get a bat or something to keep near the bed? What would you do?
     
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  3. *stRgrL* Kicks ass Valued Senior Member

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    Keep a bat under the bed and behind the door (like in a hallway close to the door). If someone comes in, whack the bastard.

    Oh and knives help too

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  5. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    If you have the money, install an alarm with sensors for movement and the sound of braking glass. Make sure the sound of the alarm is loud.

    A weapon can help to make you feel more secure. A bat is better than a gun because it is harder to do something with it that you might regret.

    If your wife always wanted a kitten, surprise her with a German Sheperd pup. The pup will soon grow up and will be unfriendly to unwanted visitors at night. Even the barking can make a burglar think twice.

    It is possible to use little tricks to give you a sense of security. You can put a chair againt the door with some metal object balancing on it. When the door is opened, the sound of the metal object falling will wake you.

    Install a telephone next to your bed. This will be useless if you get homejackers, but burglars will try to be quiet. You can call the police then. Or your wife can call the police while you're being brave with the bat.

    When you're away for a few days, let the neighbours turn the lights on and off. Burglars have a keen sense for abandoned houses.

    Neighbours can also feed your German Shepard.
     
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  7. Adam §Þ@ç€ MØnk€¥ Registered Senior Member

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    1) Keep weapons handy.
    2) Never use a weapon unless you're positive about the target.
    3) Go to some ex-Army martial arts instructor and ask him to teach you about violence, not self-defence.
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    yes think how you would feel if you stabed an "intruder" and it was your kid who had forgotten his keys


    i a story about a woman who herd an intruder in her home and stabed him and it turned out to be her husband come home early from a business trip
     
  9. Distortion melted down Registered Senior Member

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    If you're genuinely concerned for your saftey - buy a glock, 2 clips, and put them in a bedside table.

    Alternatively - buy yourself a japanese Katana sword. They're a great present, quite beautiful, great mantle decoration.

    Can you imagine walking downstairs... sword in hand, seeing the intruder, pointing the sword at him and saying 'Wrong house, I'm afraid..'

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    A basic self-defense course or even training in a martial art is never a bad idea, either.

    -Distortion
     
  10. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    What's the difference between homejackers and burglars?
     
  11. Docmayhem dangerously quiet loner Registered Senior Member

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    Speaking as someone strange enough to collect odd weapons, etc...

    Go to a camping store and buy a can of the pepper spray that's rated for bears.

    It's non-lethal (though they'll wish it were) and has a range of up to 25 feet.

    I also like the idea of the katana. I think a burglar is a lot more likely to try to run away from a nut with a sword and an attitude than from someone with a gun and a case of the shakes.

    You can find the pepper spray at www.sportsmansguide.com or www.cabelas.com

    You can find a usable (not great) sword at www.budkww.com

    If you want something very high quality and good looking, try www.angelsword.com or www.lundegaard.com

    As a final note: Discretion is the better part of valor. Get that phone installed by your bed (or keep your cellphone there at night), and make sure you call the police.
     
  12. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

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    The best thing to do would be to get some LTL (less than lethal) ammunition for a 12 gauge shotgun.

    This way you don't have to worry nearly as much about an accident, or killing someone in defense of property instead of life, etc....

    This type of ammo is pretty much the same as the bean bags SWAT officers use to incapcitate suspects.

    The Hornets Nest projectile is a particularly effective round, as it works, but it is also highly unlikely to kill people in very close proxcimities, as it uses many small projectiles instead of one big projectile (with a large projectile inflicting more force, if you shoot someone over the heart with your guns muzzle less than a foot away from their chest, it could cause a heart attack).

    Also, the gunshot of these rounds is usually almost as loud as that of regular ammo (in this case it would be 00 buckshot), if you happen to shoot and miss an intruder in your home, he may be convinced you are firing live ammo at him as he proly wouldn't know the difference. If robbers/home invaders know they are being shot at, they often flee out of fear.

    Here, have a look. You can order them here

    http://www.firequest.com/
     
  13. Distortion melted down Registered Senior Member

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    That's the idea

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    Although, I would keep the glock in my back pocket incase he whipped out a gun.

    It'd make a great story - scaring off the burgalar with a Katana...

    -Distortion
     
  14. hlreed Registered Senior Member

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    Be glad you live in a country (USA) where self defense has not been reversed as in some places. In some places you can go to jail for hitting an armed robber. Buy a gun and learn how to use it.

    "An armed society is a polite society."
     
  15. UberDragon The Freak at the Computer Registered Senior Member

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    Hey dude, buy a gun. If anyone tries to mess with you or your family on your property and you've got like thirty bullets in the gun, give him thirty bullets!
     
  16. Zero Banned Banned

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    Get three pet bulldogs. No problem.
     
  17. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

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    Well actually, 3 pitbulls might work dog.

    A true burglar breaks into a house to steal (or for the thrill of testing their skills). A sneak thief, they don't want a confrontation or violence, their objective is to break in unnoticed, take valuable items, and leave.

    A home invader or robber however, wants to hold people at gunpoint, cause harm, or kill. They may intentionally enter the bedroom of the house's ocupants with the intent to rape or murder. They want to take things by force, and would fight instead of flee.

    A single guard dog might be affective against a burglar. But what makes you think a robber would hesitate to shoot a dog? If they are willing to kill humans, what makes you think they won't take a life less valuable (an animal)? You think they would risk getting killed, arrested, or being painfully mauled and having huge scars on their body the rest of their life (not to mention a trip to the hospital wearing a ski mask) for not shooting a dog?

    Now, 3 dogs might work. A robber wouldn't have time to shoot all 3 of them, they would attack too fast and from too many angles. Unless of course, there were multiple robbers and they had big ass guns, like a shotguns or automatic rapid fire weapons (in that case, even an M4 with live ammo might not help you - if you are paired 3 against one, unless you know they are coming and shoot all 3 of them through the walls inflicting enough damage to disable all 3.....)

    Edit: Pitbulls are generally considered the most violent of all dogs (or trained to be attack dogs). However, Dobermen Pinchers, Wrot Wilers, Chows, and German Shepards can also easily be trained for aggression.

    There are also some very big ass dogs like English Mastifs, St. Brenards, and Irish Wolfhounds that look like monsters or huge tigers. They may not naturally be as prone to aggression, however they can be trained, and would certainly scare any burgular off more easily due to their size and look, they could also endure more gunshot wounds.
     
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  18. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Re: Low tech

    ROTFLMAO!
    Are you kidding me? What are they going to do, nibble the robber's throat out if he happens to fall asleep on the floor? Don't get me wrong, Lhasa Apsos are absolutely fantastic dogs, but an angry Lhasa is about as dangerous and an electric razor. Although I suppose 10 would be a bit much to handle.
     
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  19. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    A gun is the best solution, assuming you are confident that you won't accidentally shoot the wrong person. Keep an unloaded gun in your dresser or nightstand. If someone breaks into your house shut your bedroom door and load the gun, then call the police and wait in the bedroom until they arrive.

    EDIT: Note that this only applies if you never have children in the house.
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    cool method

    one dude I know istalled a ship's horn onto his old car.
    He almost got in jail for it, because a car thief went insane and is now being normalised

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  21. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Get a large dog. A good dog will eat an intruder, if the the fool is dumb enough to enter its home.
     
  22. A Canadian Why talk? When you can listen? Registered Senior Member

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    Guns Are EVIL

    you want the canadian way to secure your home?!
    get one of them metal doors that are almost impossible to break into when they locked..

    Get the "CLAP ON" thingy set for alarm mode so when someone breaks in, the lights will turn on! THEN RUN OUTTA YOUR ROOM WITH A PAINTBALL GUN SET AT HIGH SETTING AND A FULL HOPPER AND WAIL ON THE GUYS BALL SAC!!!!!


    trust me, if my paintball gun can break glass beer bottles, it will for sure rupture an intruders testicals!!!



    and hey you cant get in trouble for owning a paint ball gun

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  23. Clarentavious Person Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know about paintball guns, but air pellet guns and BB guns are illegal in some countries........
     

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