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http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/29/056227&mode=thread&tid=126

/. reports that Voice over IP is beating classic phone lines.

How will the anti-war bigots explain this hi-tech reconstruction of Iraq away as one the evils of the USA?

Perhaps they'll go on bleating about the increased level of crime since Saddam left? Willfully ignoring the fact that their quality of life increased a zillionfold since he was removed?

Originally posted by DJSupreme23
How will the anti-war bigots explain this hi-tech reconstruction of Iraq away as one the evils of the USA?
Please! Please! Can I try?
Well... The only thing that the US "gave" to the Iraqis was the right to use the instant messaging softwares! They didn't gave them Internet!

"Ta daaam..." :D

Oh, the horror! The horror! :cool:

My, my Internet in Iraq? Who has a PC nevermind a Lap top, Cell phone, etc. In Iraq, you're telling me that some stupid internet or computer crap is going to nullify the fact that Iraq is as unstable as ever. This thread is just sad. And $1 for a internet cafe? Who can even afford that in Iraq what a joke. :rolleyes:

It's true. When we've gone forth and made the Iraqis as vacuous as Americans tend to be, they won't know when and if they're suffering.

It's a win-win deal. Iraqis become part of the consumer market, and they are spared suffering for ignorance. Who cares about faith in God and justice in life when you can get a stroke over AIM?

Overdoing the westernization of any Islamic center can have shocking results. Just ask the Iranians.

:m:,
Tiassa :cool:

Hey, they have VoIP and Yahoo! Chat so who cares if they don't have freedom? Or stability. Or food. Or heatlh care. Or their home and family members.

In case you'd want to be educated about the actual situation in Iraq, kajoli, you should know that there is less of a shortage of food, water and freedom in Iraq now, than under Saddam.

Read up on the UN pages on Iraq. Read. Think. Learn.

The conditions have improved, but you are still spreading your bloody lies. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let's try that, shall we?

Under Saddam: US enforced Sanctions for 10 years.

Ofcourse Saddam got his $$ and women and booze by smuggling the oil out....so figure it out: who is responsible for those innocent Iraqi deaths and poverty and sub-standard life.

By the way while you are on the subject of thinking. reading. and education...my name is kajolishot.

Originally posted by DJSupreme23
In case you'd want to be educated about the actual situation in Iraq, kajoli, you should know that there is less of a shortage of food, water and freedom in Iraq now, than under Saddam.

Read up on the UN pages on Iraq. Read. Think. Learn.

The conditions have improved, but you are still spreading your bloody lies. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Are you educated about the situation regarding Iraq?
Have you ever been to Iraq? Do you know any Iraqis?

Wraith, don't waste your time. From your quote, it seems DJ is now regurgitating the same crap we heard earlier from clockwood:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=396253&highlight=more+electricity+iraq#post396253

Just stick him on the ignore list and save yourself the grief.

Under Saddam: US enforced Sanctions for 10 years.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Saddam in power for thirty or forty years? With United States backing?

Gosh Captain America, what went wrong with our good friend Saddam?

Iraq's only export is oil. The US is if not the largest consumer of oil then one of the largest. If those sanctions hadn't been there the quality of life would have improved.

Just ask the Iranians.

So true. So, so true...

I find the way this member so easily trivialises something which he himself will probably never experience first hand rather alarming, but furthermore not only does he seem to dismiss the gravity of the situation (with a nonchalant wave of a hand) about which he pontificates like a buffoon, but he (I'm assuming it's a he) then goes onto degrading the situation to a mockery, something that seems to cause him amusement.

has this member no fear of emabarassing himself? If I was so lacking in intelligence and incisive perspective on such serious matters, I wouldn't dare show myself up in such an open forum.

No, such a member deserves to be humilliated i'm affraid, for engaging in a battle of "Wits" with this child is nonsensical, when I fight battles of wit, I always ensure that my opponent is armed at least.

Originally posted by Wraith
Are you educated about the situation regarding Iraq?
Have you ever been to Iraq? Do you know any Iraqis?

Yes, I do. A fellow student at the university I attended was an Iraqi refugee. He had a lot of interesting stories to tell about the lovely Saddam regime, and how his brother came close to being executed. Happy stuff you know.

Right, good, which makes your thread seem even more banal, since you obviously have no empathy nor respect for the very serious suffering endured by many many people.

You need to listen to a lot more of your buddy's little stories.

Hmmm. From today's news stories on how life is better in Iraq under the US...

BAGHDAD, July 29 (AFP) -- At the checkpoint, the Americans found a handgun, ordered the 56-year-old man out of his car and proceeded to bash his head with a rifle butt. (http://www.haveeru.com.mv/english/news_show.phtml?id=1916)

Japanese reporters in Iraq say U.S. troops roughed them_up (http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id=267735)

American troops accused of killing in Mosul
US denies allegation that its forces fired on crowd after clash (http://www.unknownnews.net/0726-2.html)

_BAGHDAD - Obsessed with capturing Saddam Hussein, American soldiers turned a botched raid on a house in the Mansur district of Baghdad yesterday into a bloodbath, opening fire on scores of Iraqi civilians in a crowded street and killing up to 11, including two children, their mother and crippled father. At least one civilian car caught fire, cremating its occupants. (http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/printer_072903B.shtml)

Victims of trigger-happy Task Force 20 Rage triggered by US raid that claimed five lives (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Print/0,3858,4721865,00.html)

Yes, I do. A fellow student at the university I attended was an Iraqi refugee. He had a lot of interesting stories to tell about the lovely Saddam regime, and how his brother came close to being executed. Happy stuff you know.

Do you think that knowing one traumatized Iraqi gets you somewhere even near knowledge ?

pathetic

DJ is a mixed bag of emotions, loves arabs one day, hates them the next for beating him over the head with a rod! Talk about Danish dictatorship!

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Yes, I do. A fellow student at the university I attended was an Iraqi refugee. He had a lot of interesting stories to tell about the lovely Saddam regime, and how his brother came close to being executed. Happy stuff you know.

Do you think that knowing one traumatized Iraqi gets you somewhere even near knowledge ?

pathetic

and who the hell are you, you confused barely-arab EUROPEAN "intellectual" to say who's pathetic and who's not? i'm sure YOU know better than the rest of us.

I see that this thread has evolved into a more thought-provoking organism...

Othead

and who the hell are you, you confused barely-arab EUROPEAN "intellectual" to say who's pathetic and who's not? i'm sure YOU know better than the rest of us.

Confused ? Im not confused at all Im indeed an Arab-European nothing barely about it , you're the one here who believes he's some ancient black peoples . Your paralel product is the Aryan . You are nothing but another mans imagination .

And yes I do know better on how the peoples feel then our viking friend here who knows some Iraqi refugee , and you should be the last person in here who should question other peoples' knoweldge .

Originally posted by Ghassan Kanafani
Confused ? Im not confused at all Im indeed an Arab-European nothing barely about it , you're the one here who believes he's some ancient black peoples . Your paralel product is the Aryan . You are nothing but another mans imagination .


you're arab only technically...by DNA (you can barely speak arabic and i bet u've never even been to the ME except on a few days excursion). everything else about you is european...except you don't like europe... (identity crisis?)

and re: theories i choose to believe, is this theory proven wrong? your denouncement of it is based on opinions... not on facts so dont be telling that it's "wrong".

And yes I do know better on how the peoples feel then our viking friend here who knows some Iraqi refugee
cause you have some arabic DNA? to me it looks like you're desperately trying to associate yourself with a group (tho you're not sure which one... preferably an "oppressed" group, so you could "rebel" and "cry foul"....that's what youth likes to do, you see)

and you should be the last person in here who should question other peoples' knoweldge.
and why is that?

you're arab only technically...by DNA (you can barely speak arabic and i bet u've never even been to the ME except on a few days excursion). everything else about you is european...except you don't like europe... (identity crisis?)

* U cant be Arabic by DNA since its not a race but a culture
* Im born in ME and Ive lived there as well for couple years
* I do like some things about Europe
* I speak indeed lousy Arabic but I can get by alot better than you . Ya magnoon sadiqi , lol .

In any ways I think your attempts to create a crisis in my identity as I have created a crisis in yours are pathetic . Im sorry if I hurt your feelings by telling you the truth about yourself , but you cant really tell me anything I dont know about myself .

and re: theories i choose to believe, is this theory proven wrong? your denouncement of it is based on opinions... not on facts so dont be telling that it's "wrong".

This is not you , when will you learn ?

http://www.angelfire.com/il2/HebrewIsraelites/EthiopioanHebrewwoman.jpg

There is no Jewish race , that is not a theory that is anthropological proven fact , just like there is no Muslim race or Christian race .

Cant you just get over your own imaginations ?

cause you have some arabic DNA? to me it looks like you're desperately trying to associate yourself with a group (tho you're not sure which one... preferably an "oppressed" group, so you could "rebel" and "cry foul"....that's what youth likes to do, you see)

* Once again there is no such thing as Arabic DNA
* If I wanted to associated myself with an oppressed peoples I would associate myself with Liberians at the moment .

Anyways what has all this bullshit got to do with anything , unlike you I actually know Arabs and Muslims since I am both and have family that is both and have friends that are both in Europe and back home .

You and your viking friend couldnt even come up with 10 Arab names .

and why is that?

Because you know absolutely shit . You have opinions about zionism yet u never read any zionists & u never read history on zionism & u never read history on anti-semitism . You have opinions about Muslims or Arabs you dont even know any , U think Arabs get whiter after 2 generations of USA and u think that every woman who has a damn scarf on her head is Muslim , U are Ashkenazim Jew yet u know shit on Jewish anthropology nor Yiddish culture , Ur r Hebrew but THEY ARE BLACK when does it end man where ?

Honestly you're my favorite person on these entire forum , but ur like the worst zionist propagandist I have ever witnessed in my life . You're absolutely the cure for Jewish stereotypicsm on intelligence .

:D

nice try :)

i bet it took you a long time to write all that stuff.
you really didn't disprove anything i've said in any thread except by saying "it's stupid" and that i'm a propagandist.

you've got some identity issues. trying to be more palestinian than palestinians and more catholic than the pope.

good luck with resolving your problems

U cant be Arabic by DNA since its not a race but a culture
technicalities, technicalities. ok fine. you don't have "arab" dna. culturally you're not arab, but european that's trying to assimilate arab culture, in europe.

Im born in ME and Ive lived there as well for couple years
lol. so you left when you were 2?

I do like some things about Europe
what is it with arabs and their love for europe? :rolleyes:

Cant you just get over your own imaginations?
now that you've shown me the way with a picture and your wonderful insite, i will get over myself! lol

what has all this bullshit got to do with anything
you think you're arab you understand arabs and their bizness better.
but you're not that arab, are you, ya jahnoon :D

i bet it took you a long time to write all that stuff.

not really

you really didn't disprove anything i've said in any thread except by saying "it's stupid" and that i'm a propagandist.

what did u say that wasnt already disporved a million times before ?

you've got some identity issues. trying to be more palestinian than palestinians and more catholic than the pope.

not really , thats u
and Im not Palestinian nor trying to be

good luck with resolving your problems

good luck telling yourself ur Hebrew

technicalities, technicalities. ok fine. you don't have "arab" dna. culturally you're not arab, but european that's trying to assimilate arab culture, in europe.

no Im culturally pretty Arab I eat full & hammus :D but yes surely Im European influenced Ive lived quite a while in Europe , however Europe isnt really one mono-culture either but hey could I expect any actual sense from you ?

lol. so you left when you were 2?

Is that the only defintion u can give to couple ?

what is it with arabs and their love for europe?

I dunno I think its a wanna-have :D

now that you've shown me the way with a picture and your wonderful insite, i will get over myself! lol

Im worried ur not running into the sun tanning centre rightaway

you think you're arab you understand arabs and their bizness better.

ehm , how do I think that Im arab rather than being one ? And yes I know arab business better because than you or your viking friend . But hey , I know Jewish business better than you as well so ..... wouldnt really make me a point , other than that u simply havent got a clue on anything .

but you're not that arab, are you, ya jahnoon

no ........... im han chineze :rolleyes:

ya mamhoon , today thats possible to u know ?

jahnoon ? hasanan Sa'akhudha

I know arab business better because than you or your viking friend . But hey , I know Jewish business better than you as well so ..... wouldnt really make me a point , other than that u simply havent got a clue on anything .

you just know everything, don't you. i'm truly honoured to be in your virtual presence.

yalla, lekh habayta ya aravi dafuk ba rosh.:D