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02-01-08, 03:24 PM
I need a secure, encrypted email set up that can withstand some really possible serious tries to decipher it.

Particulary I need to exchange information in a private environment with some friends, but I don't want anyone else in between us listening in.

Is there such a service out there?

cosmictraveler
02-01-08, 04:07 PM
I need a secure, encrypted email set up that can withstand some really possible serious tries to decipher it.

Particulary I need to exchange information in a private environment with some friends, but I don't want anyone else in between us listening in.

Is there such a service out there?

Join the KGB. Otherwise there's no real great Email protection for everything you send out will be saved by whoever is your carrier. :shrug:

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02-01-08, 04:24 PM
KGB?! :D :D Joker! They're on the other side!

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02-01-08, 04:25 PM
Humm, I could encypre a message on one end, and others could on the other.
And we could beforehand securely exchange keys to unlock it.

cosmictraveler
02-01-08, 04:27 PM
Humm, I could encypre a message on one end, and others could on the other.
And we could beforehand securely exchange keys to unlock it.

No matter what you send the provider that you send it through won't let it go without saving it. I was kiddidg about the KGB but then again they are there own Email providers so....:shrug:

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02-01-08, 04:34 PM
Well, if I'd send in encrypted really hard it would not matter because it would still take massive amount of time to decipher it.
The ISP would have the binary, nothing more.

I need a solution that works when outside of the gov network.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/135104821.png

alexb123
02-01-08, 05:15 PM
ALERT ALERT!!!! Watch this man AVATAR!!!!

KGB, FBI, BOMB, MUSLIM, BUSH, NINJA, SECRET SQUIRREL, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU FOR SAYING ALLAH NONCED-UP A GOAT.

There you go, you should get a visit from some people who will be able to answer your question.

sandy
02-01-08, 05:52 PM
Use a public library. There is NO way to protect your computer.

spidergoat
02-01-08, 05:56 PM
Print your e-mail out, roll it up and insert it into a small container attached to a messenger pigeon.

Or, encode your message into a jpg image.
http://www.spywareguide.com/articles/steganography_hiding_informati_116.html

I would write my message incorporated into a 3D file made with proprietary 3D modelling software. Then change the extension so no one would know how to open it.

Dr Mabuse
02-01-08, 06:23 PM
i am an old PGP user... nothing is encrypted like something ciphered with a 4096 bit key...

a have the PGP software for Solaris before they started giving out keys to the government and corporations though... back when AP reporters used it to save their lives in hostile countries trying to search their laptops for stories that may warrant a death sentence... so mine is still safe... but no longer available...

there is now a cryptographic 'back door' to PGP... given only to few companies and government agencies, but it's there... i don't call that private...

Hushmail is a web based solution, but the recipients don't need to be on hushmail... it uses a 1024 bit key which is strong... Link... (http://www.hushmail.com/) , i would guess hushmail is you best bet... 1024 is a serious key... you can send to anyone with a cypher riddle(a question they must answer to de-cypher the email)... between hushmail users the encryption is seamless... this will be the easiest for you to use i guess... there is no back door to hushmail...

Mirramail is new full featured email client with 256 bit encryption... which is fairly strong... it's quite new and i haven't seen any in-depth reviews of it yet... Link... (http://www.download.com/Mirramail-Encrypted-Email/3000-2092_4-10785822.html?tag=lst-0-6)

the open source PGP equivalent software is a nice package, GnuPG, Link... (http://www.gnupg.org/) , the windows version is on that page but here is a link... Link... (http://www.gpg4win.org/)

RubiksMaster
02-01-08, 06:48 PM
Draw your message by hand in any image editor, but encode the text with a one-time pad, (and apply heavy jpeg compression). Then wrap it in a nested TrueCrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org/) volume, change the extension to something obscure, and send using any email provider you want.

A bit excessive, but it gets the job done.

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02-01-08, 11:51 PM
Thanks for the info. Hushmail sounds interesting.

alexb123, I'm absolutely sure not only my employer is aware of my participation in this forum already, so the keywords are moot.
Besides they're used only to monitor general public by the Americans and Chinese mostly. Particular persons are monitored through IP's.

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02-02-08, 12:21 AM
Draw your message by hand in any image editor, but encode the text with a one-time pad, (and apply heavy jpeg compression). Then wrap it in a nested TrueCrypt (http://www.truecrypt.org/) volume, change the extension to something obscure, and send using any email provider you want.

A bit excessive, but it gets the job done.

Too excessive. It's not that we're exchanging classified information, but just private information that we'd like to keep private, and not all are so computer savvy or have the time to employ this scheme.
It's a bitch to write "not on open email" once again, particulary because we sometimes get to see each other only after a month or even a year. :(

darksidZz
02-03-08, 01:53 AM
What about AOL? They use encrypton and stuff.

Asguard
02-03-08, 02:40 AM
ALERT ALERT!!!! Watch this man AVATAR!!!!

KGB, FBI, BOMB, MUSLIM, BUSH, NINJA, SECRET SQUIRREL, I'M GOING TO KILL YOU FOR SAYING ALLAH NONCED-UP A GOAT.

There you go, you should get a visit from some people who will be able to answer your question.

That reminds me of a joke my partner told me last night

An old Arab women lived in the US, and desperately wanted a vegetable garden to plant some potatoes, but was too elderly and frail to dig the bed herself.

Her son was studying in France, so she sent him an email one day, describing her frustration and dissapointment at not being able to plant her potatoes.

"Dearest son,
I write to you and am utterly devastated at not being able to plant my potatoes. I really wish you were here, as i know if you were here, you would dig up the garden for me to plant the potatoes.
Hoping to hear from you soon,

Your loving mother. "

The next day, she received a response from her son;

"dear mother,

Please do not dig up the garden, or you will find THE THING.

Love,

Your son Mohamad. "


A few hours after receiving this email, the old women's home was raided by US marines, FBI, CIA, NSA and the Army. They immediately went to the garden and began stifling through it.

A couple of hours later, they left dissapointed, not having found a thing.
The old lady sat down on her computer to find an email from her son.

"Dear mother,

By now, you should have a nicely dug up garden. This is all i can do from here.

Your loving son,
Mohamad. "

draqon
02-03-08, 03:04 AM
KGB?! :D :D Joker! They're on the other side!

the other side...heh...:cool:

Fraggle Rocker
02-05-08, 09:11 AM
How about the RSA algorithm?

Luperci
02-05-08, 11:07 PM
What email program are you using?

I think RSA/PGP encryption is the best because the public-private key model allows for both encryption and authentication. I’m not positive, but I think Thunderbird (Mozilla’s email program) using PGP. MS Outlook using certificates, so they’re not a secure, but it is something.