Hello all! Great changes are about to take place in America and the world!

I put this in pseudoscience because it would be thrown out anywhere else...

I need YOU to go to befreetech.com (http://befreetech.com/) and look around, you'll see that the energy slavery of the day is going to be abolished, so get ready for LOOOOOONG suppressed technology to re-surface unstopably, counter to what the current fossil fuel industry wants. You'll no longer be energy slaves! GOOD LUCK!

-MANMADEFLYINGSAUCER

Now there is someone selling a Bill of Goods.

:m: Peace.

This is obvious spam and should go to the trash can. The site is very obviously a scam to con people out of their money.

By all means look, however if electricity is going to be "freely available" then obviously it would have the backing of multiple large corporation renound for producing equipment, which in turn would mean a larger corporate feeling website with more data regarding operation etc.

Nobody ever seems to ask why these mail order goods are only ever mail order and not 'out in your stored now!'.

hmm... perhaps

Theres a good film for those interested about these so-called free energy technologies called Chain Reaction, starring Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115857/

It was a good sci-fi, but very unlikely.

Theres a good film for those interested about these so-called free energy technologies called Chain Reaction,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115857/

Er, it was definitely a film, but I don't recall it being that 'good'!

"Woah! I totally created this like, totally awesome reaction that separates hydrogen from water for fuel!"

You've already heard our on your blurry photos of what appear to be streetlights.

We said, "bunk."

Btw, You'll noticed I deleted your advertisement lsufos. Thats because the forums starts to look a mess when every other post is someones personal attempt to get surfers to their website. Considering the only time advertisement has been allowed on Sciforums is when it's been allowed by Porfiry in the hope to earn enough to go towards it's upkeep, free advertisements aren't really permitted.

Once or twice is acceptable, but any more than that and it's just outright spam.

I would of closed this thread for it being a potential advert, however the points made here was the real reason for leaving it open. I know it might seem harsh, but please realise that the deletion of your address wasn't a personal one.

Didn't Jamie and Adam test some free energy machines, bought from the internet, on Mythbusters? IIRC, they were all junk, or as Adam put it, "Bupcus".

"Woah! I totally created this like, totally awesome reaction that separates hydrogen from water for fuel!"
:p http://www.gizmag.com/go/5573

There is only one legitimate discovery of an item that radiates more
energy than was input, and the company will not reveal the secret.

Here (http://www.mcdonalds.bg/new_md/img/apple_pie.jpg).

If you've ever bitten into one, you certainly understand what I mean.

:m: Peace.

hahaha

SkinWalker,

You never change still can not see that the craft on view is not a plane.
It may well be a secret goverment craft but dont say you can not see the craft come in to view then move off at speed the footage is real not fake.

Of course the footage is real. It is the images on the footage that are in question.

:m: Peace.

Stryder

That is okay to delete my link it was not a advertisement, right now you can see a craft not a plane or copter come in to view then move off at speed not selling anything just wanted to get your views on this alien or secret craft your thoughts are welcome if you or anyone can explian as to what type it is.

Ok, I will explane your craft: The craft is the following: Invented by Nikola Tesla. Kept secret and made to look like aliens fly them (this is accomplished by propaganda.)

The craft flies by pumping the substance of the universe through its metal hull. It does this by high voltage pulses, which come from Tesla Coils mounted on the inside. These high voltage pulses work because all matter is made of electric charges. Protons, neutrons, electrons. The substance of the universe is also charged electrically, and thus it takes high voltage pulses to access its mass.

The craft you have seen (flying saucer) synthesizes momentum and keeps the passengers (human) inside quite alive because the resistence to movement which would normally occur has been elliminated. The reason there is no resistence on the craft is because the momentum is synthesized instantly, by high voltage electricity. This is not alien technology, it is human, and a national security secret. (which it should not be)

If I may ask, manmadeflyingsaucer, what are the equations for these exotic phsyics which propel the craft thus?

manmadeflyingsaucer,
So the craft, that you can view the footage of on my home page is one of these a Nikola Tesla secret craft and was flying 100/200 feet above the the houses in my village.
And you say this is not alien technology,it is human, and a national security secret. (which it should not be)
It makes me wonder though why they where flying so low above the village.

"These high voltage pulses work because all matter is made of electric charges. Protons, neutrons, electrons. "

Slightly wrong, an Electric charge is a preportion to atomics, there is still Magnetics (Ergo Electromagnetics) at play. Otherwise simply being earthed would make matter disappear.

As for the Substance of the universe, I'm guessing you are refering to ZPE (Zero-Point Energy) that has had many people look for "Free Energy" and the likes within it. ZPE is considered to be the remenants of the energy from the Big Bang (along with static of an untuned television).

The problem with running a craft on ZPE would that you would have to travel at speed to gain it's benefits, since friction of nearby freefloating molecules is what you would be attempting to gain energy from. Of course the faster you travel the more force you have to imply, ergo the more energy you would use.

As for all these craft being "Nationally Secret", nobody ever seems to ask why? Simply it's understandible if these craft are suppose to be stealth, however with the modern age being more reliant upon money, it would suggest that NASA or the other space programs would have used such technologies if they were seen to work better. Working openly within such space programs would work to everyone advantage as more sophisticated equipment is made available to all and there is no "Developing world" problems caused by it.

Yes, "developing world" problems. Some think that if it were released to the public in detail that crime may shoot through the roof. But no one really knows what would happen, they can only speculate, negatively. (not refering to you stryder, but there are many people who would NOT want this technology to be released because it would destroy many LARGE corperations, but at the same time, ultimately get rid of the corperations we really don't need. We would keep the corperations that were positively needed.) This technology would blow alot of other technology out of the water, ultimately illiminated the need for the old techs.

As for the Substance of the universe, I'm guessing you are refering to ZPE (Zero-Point Energy) that has had many people look for "Free Energy" and the likes within it. ZPE is considered to be the remenants of the energy from the Big Bang (along with static of an untuned television).

The problem with running a craft on ZPE would that you would have to travel at speed to gain it's benefits, since friction of nearby freefloating molecules is what you would be attempting to gain energy from. Of course the faster you travel the more force you have to imply, ergo the more energy you would use.

Stryder, you seem to be confusing a few concepts here. I believe that Zero Point Energy refers to the energy fluctuations of the vacuum, expressed by the creation and annihilation of virtual particles. This is not related to the cosmic background radiation (the tv static), nor is it related to the interstellar medium (the free-floating molecules).

I stand corrected, You can tell I just don't have the time or resources to source every bit of data. Thats the problem with being human, there is only so much you can fit through your tiny little filter of a mind.

Although it makes a change to be "Corrected" as apposed to just chewed out and abused for a misconception ;)

In any case the overall energy that Manmade is suggesting is in use in his craft just wouldn't be viable from any forms of background radiation. I'm sure (correct me if I'm wrong) but Thermal Dynamics dictates this.

"Woah! I totally created this like, totally awesome reaction that separates hydrogen from water for fuel!"
i suppose you did, using electricity no doubt
it's called electrolysis and its no big secret

i suppose you did, using electricity no doubt
it's called electrolysis and its no big secret

Of course it isn't, I was making fun of the movie Chain Reaction. (Notice the post above mine).

Of course it isn't, I was making fun of the movie Chain Reaction. (Notice the post above mine).

It was obvious to anyone with a sense of humour, don't worry.

All we have to do now is go kill those evil us's.

We'll have Station build us some robot us's to fight the evil us's!

I was actually refering to what is called "Zero Point Radiation" (Rapidly changing electrostatic forces of VERY high frequency and voltage) Of course this would refer to an "occult science" which explains the secret technology.

This ZPR gives equilibrium to an all pervading "liquid" which liquid is the vehicle of inertia, momentum, and gravity. This "liquid" (Ether) behaves as a liquid to mass, and a solid to light and heat. (and of course the ZPR)

The High Voltage Tesla Coils on the saucer set the Ether out of equilibrium, stretching this Ether and making the path in the desired direction of the flying machine the path of least resistence.

The Ether cannot normally be altered like this, except that the Tesla Coils access the Ether's positive mass.

The earth never slows in its rotation or revolutions, because the sun imparts momentum to it at the north and south poles. In much the same way our top secret flying saucers run today. (they are internally powered, BUT the ZPR does most of the work)

The earth never slows in its rotation or revolutions, because the sun imparts momentum to it at the north and south poles. In much the same way our top secret flying saucers run today. (they are internally powered, BUT the ZPR does most of the work)

Wait.... what? The earth's rotation speeds up and slows down all the time. It's due to weather pattern and earthquake's affecting the speed of rotation. El Nino alone accounts for 400-800 micro-seconds slow down each year it happens.

When the glaciers formed during the ice age, the poles of the earth flattened, and the equator bulged a bit, so the earth's rotation slowed down because the distribution of mass was further away from the center of mass. When the poles melted the ground became uncompressed, and the equator is slightly decreasing, so the earth is speeding up.

The Moon also affects the Earth's rotation due to tidal forces.

What the hell is the "Ether" anyway?

The earth gets its force imparted by the sun at the north and south poles.
YOU are at this very moment immersed in Ether. You can't see it, but when you feel your car accelerate or stop, you feel the Ethers effects, manifest as inertia and momentum. If you don't believe this then you don't suscribe to this secret science obviously.

Rather than explaning the whole damned science to you guys... You should see that many people have seen flying machines which "defy physics." When in reality there is a secret science which explains the facts of reality, and thus how these flying saucers or "UFOs" fly. (a flying saucer is a UFO only when its observer doesn't know what he is looking at)

What is the ether composed of?

According to the Ether Theory I adhere to: Each "Ether unit" is charged electrically positive on the outer field, and the inner core is charged with a negative electric field. According to the theory, for a flying saucer (electropropulsive unit) to access the negative mass it must have a high voltage high frequency electric pulse, because the Ether moves at such high frequencies. When Ether moves through mass, it could be comopared in much the way air moves "through" a flock of geese. The Ether is so minuscule that it moves through mass. (Which mass is mostly "space")

To synthesize momentum with high voltage means, is MUCH more efficient than to create momentum with conventional means.

Ok, I will explane your craft: The craft is the following: Invented by Nikola Tesla. Kept secret and made to look like aliens fly them (this is accomplished by propaganda.)

The craft flies by pumping the substance of the universe through its metal hull. It does this by high voltage pulses, which come from Tesla Coils mounted on the inside. These high voltage pulses work because all matter is made of electric charges. Protons, neutrons, electrons. The substance of the universe is also charged electrically, and thus it takes high voltage pulses to access its mass.

The craft you have seen (flying saucer) synthesizes momentum and keeps the passengers (human) inside quite alive because the resistence to movement which would normally occur has been elliminated. The reason there is no resistence on the craft is because the momentum is synthesized instantly, by high voltage electricity. This is not alien technology, it is human, and a national security secret. (which it should not be)


source?

What the hell is the "Ether" anyway?

the term was used in very very primitive sciences to explain the composition of the universe (ie: the stuff of creation). it was also used by theosophists in the late 1800's/early 1900's.

*shrug*

The source of this information goes way back, to around the time the flying saucer was invented, once the global fossil fuel enthusiasts got their hands on it, they gave society relativism to replace the science which perfectly explains the use of technology which synthesizes momentum.

Do like it when you all talk science theory,on how these crafts move i said it before and will again i can show this technology at first hand.
Not just pictures, footage and by the way none are faked real crafts in real time and thank you manmadeflyingsaucer for your feed back.

Makes you think

Do like it when you all talk science theory,on how these crafts move i said it before and will again i can show this technology at first hand.
Go on then!

The anticipation is killing me.

:m: Peace.

One day these electropropulsive (momentum synthesizing) flying machines will be declassified and you will see that:

Electropropulsive Flying saucers are NOT from outerspace (extraterrestrials)

Electropropulsive Flying saucers DO exist.

Electropropulsive Flying saucers ARE manmade

First i can not post a link on site here for you to go view it.
But everyone has a home page in there profile and i am not selling
or spaming anyone hey i would like your views on this technology.

make me a believer, dude.

I know this post is a long one, but if you want to know the truth, by all means, read all of it.

I will repost my views on this technology. But first, you should realize that the only reason I believe in flying saucers and started investigating, is because various family members and I have seen flying saucers in the sky around where we live. The first sighting from my associates was seen by my father, roughly 25 years ago. He said it was flying REALLY low over the road which he was driving on, about 150-200 yards in front of him, and around 70 feet above the ground.

As I grew up I remember him telling me of this event through out the years, and so to me, "flying saucers" are a normal subject of discussion and a fact of reality. Then as I grew up I kept an eye on the skies because I always wanted to see one for myself. When one day I was recording a thunderstorm and I was hoping to get some lightning on film, but instead of lightning, I caught a flying object on film, which object I had only heard of. Anyway, I have seen many since and now hold that since they are indeed real, the most likely source of them is man, and not "aliens from outerspace."

With that conjecture in mind I went online and did a google search for "manmade flying saucer" and found a crudely made webpage which boasted of books that tell the conspiracy as to where flying saucers came from. (WHO invented them, rather that WHAT) At the time I had a fairly young mind and I was more open to different possibilities. So I ordered some books from the webpage, and everything that was said in the books fell in line PERFECTLY with how the "real flying saucer" performs.

If you want to dig into this very exciting piece of reality you should read the following: (in this order)

Nikola Teslas Flying Machine (http://pritchardschool.com/Teslas_Flying_Machine.pdf)

After reading that go to amazon.com and purchase/read: Pentagon Aliens and/or Occult Ether Physics (Teslas Hidden Space Propulsion System and the Conspiracy to Conceal It)

First i can not post a link on site here for you to go view it.
You said that you have proof of these machines, that you can show us first hand. Show us.

You said that you have proof of these machines, that you can show us first hand. Show us.
find it yourself if you can you idiot.

Now now, don't flame. I was merely asking for what he offered to us.

Interested in future secret technology? Here: The use of plasma to decrease drag on an airplane and achieve higher efficiency by 70% of current. <--no, i did not make this up

Very interesting Dragon, that sounds very similar to our saucer technology. Does that plasma involve the use of high voltage by chance?

I offered a view of such a craft and will take this down and replace it with another in two days time you know how to get there now.

Where is the view of this craft? On the lsufos.com homepage? If it's a QT file, it isn't loading.

EDIT: Entered the filename into the address bar, it's downloading now. For the video he speaks of, click http://lsufos.com/ufo1999.mpg

EDIT 2: I am unimpressed. It is a camcorder filming a TV screen on which is playing a different camcorder video, which shows (you guessed it) a blurry object which could be anything, which moves in a path skipping from location to location, not seeming to actually move. It's as if it was suffering a bout of lag or in a game running at low FPS. The reason for this is because the video being filmed by the camcorder is playing at a slow speed, perhaps 1 frame per second. Is this to allow us a clear view of it, or perhaps to make the craft seem more fantastic?

Yep, windows player you need to let page load open then drop page for 2/3 mins then you should load it.
Some will load faster depends on your download speed better to drop then let it load.

For the video he speaks of, click http://lsufos.com/ufo1999.mpg

Thanks CH. Gosh, yes, that is a really crap UFO video.

Here's one I made last summer. I live a few miles from an airport, so see many aircraft flying in an out all day. In this short video, a jet making a contrail is clearly visible, with the glint off another in view, to the left of screen. I use a zoom through to keep the glint out of focus, until it gets so out of focus it 'disappears'. (although I could still just see it with the naked eye in reality, the camera give's it' viewpoint, which isn't necessarily the truth!)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9176670754674761435&pl=true

But anyway, I know mine was a plane, but I made it look like a UFO. Lsufos has got a blurry dot driven around the screen with camera shake. Probably just aircraft running lights, but it could just be a planet or star, there's no context to judge it by.

Must try harder, lsufos, your UFO vid isn't as good as one made by a skeptic!

What you got there is the moon out of focus.
Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.

Very interesting Dragon, that sounds very similar to our saucer technology. Does that plasma involve the use of high voltage by chance?

I have no idea. I read it in AIAA magazine, to which my univ. is prescribed 2.

What you got there is the moon out of focus.
Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.
Actually, if you read his post he explains it was a goose.

And yes, I suppose he has seen "so much crap" because he watched your video.

What you got there is the moon out of focus.
Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.

The Moon? Jesus christ you really are dim. If you check the foregorund items, and the elevation, you'd see that the Moon would be MUCH LARGER relative to the building and the tree as I ZOOMED IN!

Plus it was moving. The Moon does not track that fast.

You can't even identify the Moon, you must be a really crap UFOlogist!

I'm laughing at you. Ah ha, ... ah ha ha haaaaa!

You are full of it. you made it look like a ufo plane to me.
A goose, I'm laughing at you. Ah ha, ... ah ha ha haaaaa
Anyway what was that you called your self on a post you are A was it not.
Never got me back on that one BIG A.

What you got there is the moon/goose out of focus.
Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.

You are full of it. you made it look like a ufo plane to me.
A goose, I'm laughing at you. Ah ha, ... ah ha ha haaaaa
Anyway what was that you called your self on a post you are A was it not.
Never got me back on that one BIG A.

What you got there is the moon/goose out of focus.
Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.
Phlog isn't claiming that there are aliens/something and using blurred videos which could be anything, unlike yourself. He is pointing out how things can be misinterpreted, as you yourself often misinterpret things.

Communist Hamster,

You go on like some small kid your fav sayings are that my website is crap now the footage is crap pictures are crap.
What a silly person you are now do not post a reply to me again.

The source of this information goes way back, to around the time the flying saucer was invented, once the global fossil fuel enthusiasts got their hands on it, they gave society relativism to replace the science which perfectly explains the use of technology which synthesizes momentum.

Just to clarify, Manmadeflyingsaucer...
Are you suggesting that parties with an interest in the continued use of fossil fuels popularised Einstein's Theory of Relativity in order to prevent new energy technologies from being discovered within the existing scientific framework?

Communist Hamster,

You go on like some small kid your fav sayings are that my website is crap now the footage is crap pictures are crap.
What a silly person you are now do not post a reply to me again.
I have never said your website is crap. Your footage is indeed crap, as are your pictures. Feel free to show us some non-crap footage/photos and I will of course recall my previous statements. Till then though, you have provided us with neither substance or even a coherent sentence.

Communist Hamster
Do you live with anyone, you must do there head right in.
Anyway now you worked out the way to site then i must
have your views on some more UFObject footage.
Do not know why i put up with this headcase.

Nowa days you can't really trust any photos.

Yep, none are fake here.
Anyway let page load there is no moon in this just three stars in background heard it all before about this clip.
Watch as craft moves in front of stars.

Manmadeflyingsaucer,
Are you suggesting that parties with an interest in the continued use of fossil fuels popularised Einstein's Theory of Relativity in order to prevent new energy technologies from being discovered within the existing scientific framework?

And now that we have talked of this goofy ufo video, lets discuss the secret technoly.

You should go read some Shakespeare instead of reveling in all this nonsense.

You should go read some Shakespeare instead of reveling in all this nonsense.

I see Shakespeare as nonsense. Science is the only true art, the only tool the human civilization should practice of using.

Yes exactly dragon! The flying saucer is a manmade top secret flying machine, believe my words without proof, because they are the truth!!

Yes Laika, Im saying there is a secret science which was replaced with a false science (relativity) to blind the people!

There is a HUGE criminal organization that is rooted in America, in the world, in government, in business, the parasite would have everyone as a slave if it could! But the Achilles Heel of this organization is this top-secret technology which they use to maintain control, and they do it in so many ways! Beware the Military Industrial Complex!

Here is just one example of the absolute EVIL that now reigns. Click Here! (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3395321338401208062)

Do this right NOW: go to video.google.com and look up Alex Jones, and prepare to have your eyes opened, and if you don't let these videos open your eyes and mind, your eyes and mind will be sealed to damnation forever!

Hmm, for his latest in blurred videos, click http://lsufos.com/orion clip1.mpg

And now, my analysis. It is filming a white, apparently moving thing against a black background (presumably the night sky). The camcorder cannot focus on this object, but from the slide with the best focus the light source would appear to be circular/spherical. At the end of the videio two lights are seen in a different place, apparently in formation or marking the ends of a structure.

I would say thet the first light is probably a helicopter, while the last two lights are warning lights for low flying aircraft on the top of some structure or other (but wothout knowing the area it is hard to say)

I recommend that you, lsufos, learn how to focus your camcorder on moving objects.

Communist Hamster,

It is filming a white, apparently moving thing against a black background.
What do you get off on,background is night sky three stars orions belt.
When you use a camcorder trying to catch object moving at speed that
is what happens in real life.
At the end of the videio two lights are seen in a different place, apparently in formation or marking the ends of a structure.
Sorry, but there is only one light moving away in and out of focus and shows up in a different place.
Dont recommend that i learn how to focus your camcorder on moving objects as i said that is what happens in real life hand held cam.
And i would say about your thoughts as to what the craft is, full of crap you say copter or plane, with warning lights low flying aircraft on the top of some structure.
Your right about one thing it was low.
But was no craft i have ever seen before a UFObject anyway that was a clip and have many more.

What you got there is the moon/goose out of focus.

It wasn't the moon. I know what it WAS, and it wasn't the Moon. This shows that you cannot tell the Moon from another object, and shows what a useless UFOlogist you are, if you can't tell the Moon from a Goose!

Sorry you did that it shows what a useless
skeptic you are never seen so much crap.

No, it shows that I am a very good skeptic, that I have taken a video, shown it to a UFOlogist, and he has stated it is something it is not! I have demonstrated that videos CANNOT be used for accurate identification! You have proven that your own videos are useless! But you are just too dim to see it!

Yes Laika, Im saying there is a secret science which was replaced with a false science (relativity) to blind the people!

Manmadeflyingsaucer, I realise that there are 101 "Einstein was wrong!" threads in which you could have posted (maybe you did), but I'll keep on on this topic here anyway, if you don't mind. Relativity has been repeatedly shown to give a very good description of reality. The theory is validated daily by the Global Positioning System, by the number of muons reaching the ground, and by the precession of Mercury's orbit. Here (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051226100647.htm), here (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/11/051110090022.htm) and here (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/10/041022101838.htm) are some popular science articles describing studies that have confirmed the theories.

Anyway, whether relativity is right or wrong, I would be intrigued to know which popularisers of the theory had the vested interest in the fossil fuel industry, and how they managed to pull the wool over the eyes of scientific community. In the case of Ponns and Fleischmann (with which I thought you might draw a parallel), even after the work was condemned by the world's most prestigious scientific institutes, research continues to be conducted and published. So how did Einstein's refinement of classical physics cause the true "secret science" to drop off the radar?

Hmm, for his latest in blurred videos, click http://lsufos.com/orion clip1.mpg .

Wow! A moving dot of light!

Jesus, I see dozens of those every night, living near an airport!

Thanks again for the link CH. I must now go and film my own 'moving dot of light' UFO video for comparison. Will do that tonight and link tomorrow!

By all means shag nasty, roll on tomorrow.

By all means shag nasty, roll on tomorrow.

It'll be better than any of the shite you have posted, you idiot.

Oh, and I'm just calling you an idiot because all you ever do is hijack threads with your crap. Seems you aren't clever enough to start your own thread!

I hijack threads with your crap ON IT.

lsufos, all you've posted at this forum are some links blurry photos and movies. Which, specifically, do you assert are evidence for what, specifically? Furthermore, what assertions are you attempting to make? It would seem that you are saying that there are lights in the sky that, when photographed or filmed, are very difficult to identify.

Perhaps we've all been to harsh on you, so I offer this olive branch of query in attempt to mend the fence -nay- tear it down alltogether! Let us set aside the petty insults and get to the business of query.

I hijack threads with your crap ON IT.

Hey Brainiac, I didn't start this thread, and most of my posts here have been about content YOU have posted. You even aren't as bright as the dots you film!

Do that mean you would or could not post on my thread.
Then if so why not, i see most post of yours to others
are very alike all full of bad content toward others.

anyway get the cam oot time is runing oot noo

So you aren't going to answer my legitmate questions regarding your links?

SkinWalker,

Regarding my links, okay lets hear what you got to say before that other nut shows whats on offer with cam.
Look it do not matter what two or three or more think of pictures or footage,as you only deny yourself the truth you can say you can not see anything in pictures at your lose deny all you want about the pictures/footage.
Thats what makes the world go round people who can see and ones who deny everthing sorry think we know what you lot are.

Anyway get a life, go out talk to others big world outhere.

CHEERS

Laika:
Anyway, whether relativity is right or wrong, I would be intrigued to know which popularisers of the theory had the vested interest in the fossil fuel industry, and how they managed to pull the wool over the eyes of scientific community. In the case of Ponns and Fleischmann (with which I thought you might draw a parallel), even after the work was condemned by the world's most prestigious scientific institutes, research continues to be conducted and published. So how did Einstein's refinement of classical physics cause the true "secret science" to drop off the radar?

It was a large collaboration of rich men working together, aimed to keep you and I (the public) buying fuel from the gas station. Also, with lots of propaganda and hard work, they managed to silence the secret science... another motivation for this was the fact that believing in the theory of relativity automatically blocks your possibilities when it comes to the greatest and most secret technology of all.

I have seen secret technology in the skies, and since I knew what I was looking at, I didn't see a "UFO."

Hey, there have been thousands and thousands of eye witnesses who have seen secret technology in their skies, but since they didn't know what it was they were seeing, they are called "ufos." The top-secret flying saucer sightings reports by all these different witnesses who don't know eachother, happen to carry some consistency amongst the descriptions of the sightings. Which would indicate that what was reported, was actually seen. If you want to browse through the U.S. UFO sightings data base: CLICK HERE. (http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxloc.html) Give them a serious study and see what you find.

SkinWalker,

Regarding my links, okay lets hear what you got to say before that other nut shows whats on offer with cam.
Look it do not matter what two or three or more think of pictures or footage,as you only deny yourself the truth you can say you can not see anything in pictures at your lose deny all you want about the pictures/footage.
Thats what makes the world go round people who can see and ones who deny everthing sorry think we know what you lot are.

Anyway get a life, go out talk to others big world outhere.

CHEERS
Deny? Deny? What is there to deny? The videos and pictures are ambigous, they could be anything. I am denying nothing by inertpreting them as planes or helos, just as you deny nothing when you see them as strange machines not of this world. Helos and planes have, however, been proven to exist, unlike your "machines".

And "get a life"? In my opinion, that's a bit rich coming from someone who stays up all night to film (out of focus) lights.

Sill as sad as ever, no one ever said where these machines came from so stop trying to make out things that have never been said.
Past your bed time now bye.
Your opinion, is not worth anything to anyone just another asshole trying to get on the internet and think people will listen to you we been here with you before and you and the side kicks act so silly that its easy to see you have not much in your life other than on your computer trying to tell everyone nothing is real and you no so.
Go out your head wont fall off they are just winding you up there is a real worlds outhere with real machines all over the place.
Sorry forgot you live in that room four walls no sex thats true why you can not agree with yourself if it was real or not.
Dont worry you got a few in here like that but you can not meet them they like you can not make there mind up and there opinions like yours mean nothing to anyone.

CHEERS

Well, i love when you go and use your word doc to reply.
Dont be long i am going be up all night but not filming,

CHEERS

SkinWalker,

Regarding my links, okay lets hear what you got to say before that other nut shows whats on offer with cam.

What, specifically, should I comment on? I'm still not sure what it is you are asserting with the pictures and movies at your site.

Look it do not matter what two or three or more think of pictures or footage,as you only deny yourself the truth you can say you can not see anything in pictures at your lose deny all you want about the pictures/footage.

Again, what "truth" is available in the pictures or footage? Perhaps we've overlooked something. Which pictures and footage support what assertion?

Thats what makes the world go round people who can see and ones who deny everthing sorry think we know what you lot are.

I'm not sure what you're going on about... I'm just asking questions.

Anyway get a life, go out talk to others big world outhere.

Sage advice.

Sill as sad as ever, no one ever said where these machines came from so stop trying to make out things that have never been said.
Where do you think these machines come from then?
Your opinion, is not worth anything to anyone just another asshole trying to get on the internet and think people will listen to you we been here with you before
The same can be said of you.
and you and the side kicks act so silly that its easy to see you have not much in your life other than on your computer trying to tell everyone nothing is real and you no so.
Ditto, vice versa
Go out your head wont fall off they are just winding you up there is a real worlds outhere with real machines all over the place.
I will take your machines seriosuly when I see proof.
This is photographic proof of a helicopter:
http://thewindancer.com/images/Mini-500%20Helicopter.jpg
This is not proof of a "machine" or indeed anything at all:
http://lsufos.com/ufo%20enhaced.jpg
Sorry forgot you live in that room four walls no sex thats true why you can not agree with yourself if it was real or not.
Dont worry you got a few in here like that but you can not meet them they like you can not make there mind up and there opinions like yours mean nothing to anyone.

CHEERS
Punctuation makes a difference to how easy it is to read, thus increasing the offense your insults would cause. However, insults are not a valid debate technique and add no credibility whatsoever to your argument. Kindly desist from commenting on the personal lives of those who disagree with your "proof".

Lsufos, I was out, doing something more interesting than filming dots in the sky last night, so you'll have to wait a while longer for my fake UFO footage.

Some of us have lives, and can't spend every hour watching the sky.

Also, could you learn to write? Everything about your prose sucks. You can't spell, your sentences run on, are missing punctuation, and you change direction part way through a sentence. Basically, you are the classic undereducated type that is attracted to UFOlogy. Just because you are a stereotype doen't mean you can't improve yourself however.

phlogistician, One you failed never got the footage sorry your oot, sad why say what you are going do and never do it.
So we are going have to wait untill you make fake UFO footage to compare with the real footage i took i think not you are still that same old asshole you have always been.
Never mind the spelling you get the message.

What a low life you are, going FAKE UFO FOOTAGE, hope you are not saying that my UFO FOOTAGE IS FAKE but would not put anything past you and those side kicks.
Some of us have lives, and can't spend every hour on the computer your MUM is shouting on you.
Bye, i will not talk with you anymore you are full of Deceit and lies sorry your OOT.

Communist Hamster,
It must be those buck teeth that you use for eating that makes you a asshole or are we talking to one of three who share the same house and joined this site to talk to them self sad get.
And ask first in future if you can use any of the pictures at
http://lsufos.com
Your credibility is at stake your oot go get a life.

SkinWalker,
I am not going go there, stick with your thoughts on these pictures/footage you need eyes to see.

Sorry

lsufos, I'm not saying that you fake footage, just that I can take footage that looks exactly like yours, but knowing what it is, mine is 'fake'.

I didn't 'fail' to get footage, I just didn't make any. You know, proving you to be a sad deluded loser isn't top of my 'things to do' list? Especially as you do a good enough job of that all by yourself!

And ask first in future if you can use any of the pictures at
http://lsufos.com


Why would I use your pics, I can use blurry pics of stuff from other sites;

http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/StratfordLandingES/Ecology/Miscellaneous/Amoeba/amoeba2.jpg

http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v66/gonesh9/wanderings/orbs.jpg


http://www.washingtonstateghostsociety.org/img/orbs.jpg

????

Still as sad as ever boy,
You can make fake footage all you like, and take pictures from anyother site you like i can not stop you from doing that, it would have to be that site owner.
Anyway num nuts,carry on with your Deceit and lies,keep it up and shows what a real asshole you are.

CHEERS

What deceit and lies? All I have said is that you have a crap web site, and your web site is crap.

All you have is blurry out of context photographs, without supporting information, like, why you took the photo, why the dot got your attention, any info would be good, but no, you just post blurry dots, as if that proves something. I think you just have that website so your mum thinks your UFO hunting is genuine, while you are off giving your mentor blowjobs. It might fool your mum, but it doesn't fool us. You're the sucker, not us!

Communist Hamster,
It must be those buck teeth that you use for eating that makes you a asshole or are we talking to one of three who share the same house and joined this site to talk to them self sad get.
Oh, insulting my username. Thats not a very good attack is it now? That's like saying to someone called "Robin" "Huur hurr you must be a bird LOL"
And ask first in future if you can use any of the pictures at
http://lsufos.com
No
Your credibility is at stake your oot go get a life.
My credibility is at stake? You don't think that your credibility is totally ruined from your stunted posts and blurred, ambiguous "evidence"?

You still haven't answered my question anyway: what do you claim these things you film and photograph are?

I insulting your username,they say people look like the animals they keep and you must have buck teeth and small fat.
Sorry, if you think its insulting ITS JUST A THOUGHT OF YOU MAY BE WRONG BUT DO NOT THINK SO.
Sorry boys/girls you two LOL---------LOL you two think you are it you two should get to know each other what pair one small fat buck teeth the other small no hair fat and BIGEARS plug as they come one thing if you two where seen together it would be in the papers .
On second thought do not do that your credibility will be totally ruined.
Now shut up sqeek and BIGEARS

HEY BET THATS NOT FAR OFF WITH THESE TWO

CHEERS

And so ended any semblance of serious debate.

Sqeek you and BIGEARS started shouting about blowjobs and the like.
You pair are a match for eachother one can not talk without the other
Sorry you could not have a serious debate about the footage and pix
all that comes out your foul mouth bull shit and i am sure that others
who where reading these post could see that.

Sorry about your friend he had to go to shops with mum he may be
back before bed time maybe not.

CHEERS

blowjobs? The first time I saw that was in your post, mate.

The people in this forum have asked pointed questions that you have refused to answer. When you are not bringing information to the discussion, you are not contributing.

Yep, you are right if you care to look back you shall see what the questions was unless we just go by last post.

Hey, wheres the secret technology? I want some.

Hey, wheres the secret technology? I want some.

Thats why its called secret, secret technology, because the secret of its existence is not to be shared to the general public like us. May we cry on the shoulders of giants that long before us solved the problems of this universe and now create obstructions such as oil for us to slow down our progress as a civilization. Close your eyes and dream of your own secret, it will be your own secret, and those giants will yet to feel as same as you do about their secrets as they feel about your secret.

Yep, you are right if you care to look back you shall see what the questions was unless we just go by last post.
So, what are these "things" you photgraph and film?

Communist Hamster,
I was asking, what you all thought these crafts where.
Sorry that they did not stop off for drink, so i could get a better look and for me to flim them face to face if so i would not be here asking you what this technology is.

Now, if you do not know then say so.

And before you start to say about the site, pix, footage are crap, now i do not know about you but i can not see any plane or copter or any known craft on footage or in pictures but and there is always one maybe you can then name it.

CHEERS

How old are you?

john,
Same as u 1988.

Thought so! ;)

Communist Hamster,
I was asking, what you all thought these crafts where.
Sorry that they did not stop off for drink, so i could get a better look and for me to flim them face to face if so i would not be here asking you what this technology is.

Now, if you do not know then say so.

And before you start to say about the site, pix, footage are crap, now i do not know about you but i can not see any plane or copter or any known craft on footage or in pictures but and there is always one maybe you can then name it.

CHEERS
Personally I think that the footage shows a helicopter or a fixed wing aircraft, but it is difficult to say because the footage doesn't show any detail besides a light. There is no frame of reference so we cannot tell how big the object is or how fast it is moving.

This thread is no longer on topic and has been befouled like many threads before, meriting a locking.