Scrapping the Internet

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    I haven't read the article, and don't need to. The magic symbols www.foxnews.com tell me that whatever the article contains is accurate.
     
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    Ah yes, the virtual world thingy. I look forward to spending four solid days online the next time I want to buy a bloody DVD.

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  8. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    from the link:
    The Internet "works well in many situations but was designed for completely different assumptions,"

    yes indeed. those assumptions are that data flow freely between two machines.
    what is going to happen is that the internet will be divided into 50 or so chunks so that data from one chunk cannot be accessed by other chunks.
    in short the free flow of information on the web will be eliminated.
     
  9. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    yeah the internet is getting a bit old so let's blow it up and build a new one... actualy london city is even older let's first blow that up and rebuild it then a couple of other things and then start on the internet.
     
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    The idea of improving the core technologies of the internet is a good one, however the commercial interests have been aching to get their hands on just such a redesign.

    The original designers of the internet were revolutionary in their ideals of freedom and created an open network because of this. There has been a huge controversy recently over the idea that higher paying customers should have priority on the pipelines and the existing infrastructure does not allow this.

    Wanna bet on whether the new infrastructure will?

    It will have to.

    The example was given of a surgeon performing remote surgery over the internet. He would need top priority on all his packets, of course. But, seriously, who the hell is going to let a surgeon operate on them over the internet? Maybe in a few decades, but we're nowhere close to this 'example' in terms of technology.

    No. That was a red herring. A truer example would be that corporate clients would step to the front of the line while home clients get stepped on.

    It'll be a real shame when the corporations finally manage to ruin the internet.


    Edit: And, I'm sure, the adware will be built into the system....
     
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    Same article: http://www.livescience.com/technology/070413_ap_new_internet.html

    The internet will evolve at its own pace. If they can make better networks... go for it. Theres no way they can scrap the lot, and new protocols can easly be installed. My guess is they will first figure out new methods of communication at a much higher tier than we have access to.
     
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    I'm sure they will just find a better more efficiuent system to deliver spam.
     
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    says spambot v1.9
     
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    I agree with W1z4rd, there is no benefit or way of 'scrapping' the infrastructure we already have. The only thing that could be done is to re-route some traffic by adding faster network links, and attempt to simplify the number of connections.

    The problem though, is the the Internet (capital I please everyone) wasn't actually designed. Parts have been designed, but there is no overall plan, and envisaging one would take so long as to be out of date by the time the job was done. The structure of the Internet is kind of 'scale free' ie fractal, with the number of interconnects and redundant routes there are, it's not a simple 'hub and spoke' design.

    If Prof clever cloggs thinks he up for the rewiring job, here's the current schematic, and good luck;

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    I would hardly think that "Scrapping the Internet" would occur considering they still haven't fully implemented IPv6

    I did once voice the potential to "Parallel the Internet". It's something that AOL and long ago Compuserve did in a way by having a closed archive/community outside of the internet. Simply a Parallel Internet would deal with all the Commercial lines like bankers transactions and home shopping/entertainment, while the old current internet is left for everything else. The emphasis would be on generating a secure and safe environment that isn't connected to the current network.

    The main concerns with the current network is the numbers of people involved in configuring the software and the versions of software being used, while having so many difference could in fact lessen large attacks, it can also increase systems available for attack by people being lapse with their updates or untrained in their configurations.

    Such a parallel Internet would only be financially viable should companies find that building a separate secure one is cheaper than trying to deal with exploits and patch problems after the proverbial horse has bolted.

    Admittedly the internet wasn't designed for the size it's become, which is perhaps why people will be looking at Scalar Networks.
     
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