Hello all, I've joined this forum to ask a question and hope someone can answer it. If I'm in the wrong place maybe someone could point me in the right direction?...I've already posted this elsewhere but just got asked what I was smoking....:p

Right here goes....

A few years ago I stayed the night at my friend's house. I'd never been there before (or since lol)

We sat up chatting for a few hours and I was to be sleeping on a sofa bed. We said goodnight and my friend went off to bed. I then sat on the end of the sofa bed which was more or less floor level. I was just about to take one of my boots off when this small jar which had been on top of the Tv, flew off - it was like a bullet out of a gun, it was so fast. It landed (upright) at my foot. I saw it land, it was almost like it just appeared, but I'd heard the whooshing sound it made as it flew past my ear. It travelled about 5 feet.

It frightened the life out of me and I went home.

It's baffled me ever since. The next day I phoned my friend who then told me she'd had a few weird things happen in that house. I can't comment on any of that because I wasn't there.

Anyway, my question is, could it have been some sort of electrical charge from the Tv? It had been swithced off for at least 8 hours and wasn't on standby.

The jar was made of a type of china. ceramic - not obvious metal on it at all - very plain.

Are you sure your friend wasn't playing some kind of trick on you?

Are you sure your friend wasn't playing some kind of trick on you?

Absolutely 100% sure. She wouldn't do that plus she was upstairs in bed and I was alone in the room - had she been anywhere about, I would've seen her!No one else in the house either. I picked the jar up straight after and it was warmish.

It was either a natural phenomena or paranormal. No tricks, no drafts - a draft could not produce that effect.

The jar flew like I said ' like a bullet out of a gun' across the room by the shortest route - straight across and down. It didn't shoot up into the air and down. It's so hard to explain here. I thought it was odd enough that it should land upright , given the shaped and size of it - about 5 inches tall and a base the size of a coin, but I realise that is not impossible - just unlikely.

How long has the friend lived there? Is there any history of paranormal activity in the building?

Are you or were you ever associated with Penecostals/Charismatics?

I can't really comment, apart from saying that this wouldn't happen due to any electrical charge from the TV. It doesn't fit any kind of electromagnetic effect I can think of.

Did you see it take off from on top of the TV, or did you only see it land? That is, were you watching it directly the whole time?

Absolutely 100% sure. She wouldn't do that plus she was upstairs in bed and I was alone in the room - had she been anywhere about, I would've seen her!No one else in the house either. I picked the jar up straight after and it was warmish.

It was either a natural phenomena or paranormal. No tricks, no drafts - a draft could not produce that effect.

The jar flew like I said ' like a bullet out of a gun' across the room by the shortest route - straight across and down. It didn't shoot up into the air and down. It's so hard to explain here. I thought it was odd enough that it should land upright , given the shaped and size of it - about 5 inches tall and a base the size of a coin, but I realise that is not impossible - just unlikely.

Or, with deep respect, the imperfection of human memory. The reason eyewitnesses are so unreliable is that the brain plays tricks on memories (according to some studies, not just "some memories" but "all memories" are only approximations with key details fabricated by our usually wacky brains).

The test of something like this is repeated occurrences, rather than a one-off incident. With that you can compare the repeat incident to your memory and look for discreopencies.

That being said, I'm sure the account you give seems absolutely 100% true and correct to you, but our brains do not record things in the same way that video tape does. Especially when something is startling or frightening, or brains fill in details, often in a fanciful way that matches our emotion at the moment rather than the reality.

How long has the friend lived there? Is there any history of paranormal activity in the building?

Are you or were you ever associated with Penecostals/Charismatics?

She hadn't live there long (and didn't stay long) and told me the next day she had some stuff happen. Lighbulbs had apparently disappeared and the kettle turned itself on. I hadn't seen this friend for 5 years prior to that night.

I can't really comment on those things though and no I've never been associated with any religious group!

I can't really comment, apart from saying that this wouldn't happen due to any electrical charge from the TV. It doesn't fit any kind of electromagnetic effect I can think of.


Ok thanks, I was hoping that it might be possible so I could have an explanation at long last!


Did you see it take off from on top of the TV, or did you only see it land? That is, were you watching it directly the whole time?

It was on top on the tv all night - couldn't help but notice as I'd been sitting looking at it all evening and the room was pretty empty all but a couple of chairs and the tv. I wasn't watching it directly. I sat down to take off my boot - I remember so clearly. I had my right foot over my left leg ready to pull my boot off - I saw something out the corner of my eye, then in an instant I saw something flash across my face - I also heard a whooshing sound, then I saw it land (upright) it was like it just appeared in front of me. One second there was just the floor then this object right next to my left foot.

Or, with deep respect, the imperfection of human memory. The reason eyewitnesses are so unreliable is that the brain plays tricks on memories (according to some studies, not just "some memories" but "all memories" are only approximations with key details fabricated by our usually wacky brains).

The test of something like this is repeated occurrences, rather than a one-off incident. With that you can compare the repeat incident to your memory and look for discreopencies.

That being said, I'm sure the account you give seems absolutely 100% true and correct to you, but our brains do not record things in the same way that video tape does. Especially when something is startling or frightening, or brains fill in details, often in a fanciful way that matches our emotion at the moment rather than the reality.


I understand what you are saying here but my 'testimony' has not changed one bit. I remembered it clearly at the time and nothing's changed in my mind since that moment.


It seems to me that there is no scientific reason for this happening - I hoped that there could be. I still do. Bit I know know for sure what happened. It didn't get there by itself -somehow it travelled 4 to 5 feet on it's own.

I understand what you are saying here but my 'testimony' has not changed one bit. I remembered it clearly at the time and nothing's changed in my mind since that moment.


Just to be clear, it's not a question of the memory changing over time as details fade, memories are often recorded "wrongly" from the first instant, especially during a fright.

See for example here (pdf file) (http://www.goldsmiths.ac.uk/apru/pdfs/2003-french-fantastic.pdf) or this (also a pdf) (http://neuro.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/reprint/13/4/515.pdf).

Also, again just to be clear, I would not single you out in this. I'm sure that were I in a similarly frightening or startling situation, my perceptions and memories would be subject to the same sorts of anomalies as are suggested in the posted link. We all grow accustomed to trusting our perceptions and our memories, but detailed analysis suggests that they are not as accurate as our "gut" tends to think they are.

Another explanation sometimes offered is the odd function of the amygdala in our brains. The amygdala unconsciously processes information and sends a signal relaying whether or not an immediate emotional (fight or flight) response to a stressful stimulus is warranted. It sends this signal and, if needed, we feel the emotions *before* the cerebral cortex gets a hold of the same sensory information and can analyze it. Everyone literally can have an emotional reaction to frightening circumstances before they have a conscious one. The amygdala also influences the way in which the memory of emotional events are recorded. It seems as though those memories are stored in a way to maximize their emotional impact in the future, but at a significant cost in accuracy.

All I would suggest is that a healthy doubt of one's on perceptions and memories in cases like this is warranted.

Also, again just to be clear, I would not single you out in this. I'm sure that were I in a similarly frightening or startling situation, my perceptions and memories would be subject to the same sorts of anomalies as are suggested in the posted link. We all grow accustomed to trusting our perceptions and our memories, but detailed analysis suggests that they are not as accurate as our "gut" tends to think they are.

Another explanation sometimes offered is the odd function of the amygdala in our brains. The amygdala unconsciously processes information and sends a signal relaying whether or not an immediate emotional (fight or flight) response to a stressful stimulus is warranted. It sends this signal and, if needed, we feel the emotions *before* the cerebral cortex gets a hold of the same sensory information and can analyze it. Everyone literally can have an emotional reaction to frightening circumstances before they have a conscious one. The amygdala also influences the way in which the memory of emotional events are recorded. It seems as though those memories are stored in a way to maximize their emotional impact in the future, but at a significant cost in accuracy.

All I would suggest is that a healthy doubt of one's on perceptions and memories in cases like this is warranted.[/QUOTE]


I don't think my last reply came up?? While I realise that eye witness testimony is often inaccurate, that rather suggests that ALL eye witness testimony is inaccurate which cannot be the case. It's like saying anything anyone has EVER witnessed is not how they recall. I know exactly what occured the same as I can recall many things accurately - this is no different. It was so unusual that I beleive I have an ever better recollection opposed to something more mundane. That aside and just supposing I recalled events precisely as they were - is it scientifically possible for a Tv to produce enough electrical charge to throw a non metal object throught the air at (exceptionally) high speed? I can liken the sound I heard (in an otherwise silent room) like whacking a golf ball with a club. You know when you get that feeling that something is about to hit you? That's what I got. 'cept it didn't hit me - it landed next to me.

your story sound weard especialy that part were you said you didnt saw you friend after that day for 5years.What happened did she moved out,that you never met her again.
And again this reminds me of these tv shows about haunted houses where stuff is flying in all directions and you cant believe is it true or not.And gain if its real it was done towards you to take your attention.
One time i almost shitted myself i woke up to go to work at 4 o'clock in the morning and while preparing in the kitchen to go, i saw two big eyes steering at me and the outside were all dark,it took me 2seconds to realise that its my black cat.you would say funny but not for those 2 seconds for me :eek: