This is Satyr’s awards thread.

The two prizes are:

Retard
Given to any imbecile falling into absurdity and logical inconsistencies.

Wizard
Given to anyone crawling out of the cesspool of human mediocrity.

I nominate you for both.

I like peaches.

I nominate you for both.
Thanks, but I’m in charge here.


The first, in Sciforums history, and honorary Retard Award goes to lightgigantic for this piece – the latest of many – which touched upon the edges of total mental vegetation:
So you have to establish how the absence of a factor (ie religion) can cause the extinction of a phenomena (ie war) even though the factor does not share an apparent relationship with causing the phenomena
Here we see an absurdity, exaggerated and pushed to an extreme, to support another absurdity.

2nd Retard goes, again, to lightgigantic for his usage of a concept to hide complete ignorance and to feign intelligence.
God is not a contradiction, and in fact is a perceivable entity - such perception of his reality (ontology) is fully dependant on the appropriate epistemology
A popular view amongst those who attempt to perceive any ontology by neglecting the related epistemology ....
The whole point about following epistemology, provided it is the correct epistemology, is that it grants something distinct from mere wanting, desire and imagination - if it was possible to approach an onotology (any ontology) without an epistemology reality would be self evident and not require any cultuer of knowledge
Then you would be non-different from any fool who didn't apply the appropriate epistemology for perceiving the ontology - nowhere did I mentionthe epistemology you seem to be advocating for religious ontology ("coming up" with something)

“ A popular view amongst those who attempt to perceive any ontology by neglecting the related epistemology .... ”
You may and the persons you accept as authorities on ontology may not know but that is probably because you have not applied the relevant epistemology for perceiving god - just like if I have not studied physics and none of my authorities have studied physics the nature of physics does not have an existence according to my onotological perspective
Therefore I would say that the epistemology one applies to understanding scripture is not the same as the epistemology one applies for understanding political treatises- to begin with it is not clear how a political treatise meets the requirements of point 7 - as for understanding scripture, that requires applying the epistemology to perceive the reality and thus the conclusion, then there are no more contraversies - if contraversies exist it indicates a lack of epistemology or at best stabilisation on an unsatisfactory level of epistemological performance
Perhaps you could hazzard what definition of god you are working with, and we can see whether it reveals the application of the correct epistemology
So in otherwords you admit that epistemology (the process of knowledge) is intrinsic to ontology?
Yes, very unlikely from the perspective of one who has not applied the appropriate epistemology
So inother words you don't have a clear entity or object with qualities you ar eworking with when you are declaring that god is a fallacious claim? It doesn't sound like a very sound epistemology ...

And wouldn't I look doubly stupid if I raised this on a thread that deals specifically with the necessity of applying an epistemology to reach an ontology?
You missed the point - epistemology leads to self evident ontology –
actually it requires an epistemology
NOt only are you revealing a definition of god but also an epistemology to reach such a bogus definiton to work with as a vehicle of logic - at the very least it stands outside of the epistemology that I presented with this thread
I would argue, hence the need for ontology

Therefore evidence requires epistemology and not logic (although logic may compliment one coming to the point of applying epistemology)
who does the peer reviewing? Are they established authorities - in otherwords how relevant is the the peer reviewing of a person outside the established epistemology? How is this different when an atheist passes views on the application of theistic epistemologies?
assuming you go to a place that actually teaches you the correct epistemology for such things

In otherwords its not unusual for a person outside the epistemological processes of knowledge to come to the point of knowledge by faith - and if a person ressolves to reject such faith they have no option but to apply the relevant epistemology to determine the validity of the claims - and if they refuse to do that then they merely offer opinions born of recalcitrance
Logic however will not convince one that god exists - epistemology will
And you say you are tired of repeating yourself?

I thought the answer would have been obvious by now

By applying the correct epistemology of course!
You have no epistemology to apply after faith - or if you do it probably won't lead to ontology - also there is no credible testimony to the said existence by established persons
There's always the epistemology thread
There's an entire thread there titled about the correct epistemology - basically it has the same rquirements as any other epistemology - the first requirement is a qualified teacher
Before there is discusions of ontology there must be a clear epistemological process - we are back at the einstein anecdote
So in otherwords correct epistemology leads to ontology

The same with any field of knowledge - the correct epistemology
And doesn't the epistemology become credible if it innvolves following in the footsteps of persons who have successfully applied the epistemology (which BTW actually innvolves avoiding all intoxicants rather than utilising them for special effects)
The problem is not with my proof - the problem is with your lack of qualification to perceive the proof

Bravo!!!!!
This only proves that if you give a retard a new toy, he’ll quickly wear it out but never learn how to play with it.

Religion or no religion, war has nothing to do with it. Just about every supposedly religious war was more about territorial occupation. Unfortunately, religion, and other wedges (catalysts used to separate people) have been used for control purposes. Even for slavery.


WILLIAM LYNCH SPEECH
Gentlemen, I greet you here on the bank of the James River in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and twelve. First, I shall thank you, the gentlemen of the Colony of Virginia, for bringing me here. I am here to help you solve some of your problems with the niggers. Your invitation reached me on my modest plantation in the West Indies where I have experimented with some of the newest and still the oldest methods of control of the niggers.

Ancient Rome would envy us if my program were implemented. As our boat sailed south on the James River, named for our illustrious King, whose version of the Bible we cherish. I saw enough to know that your problem is not unique. While Rome used cords of woods as crosses for standing human bodies along its highways in great numbers you are here using the tree and the rope on occasion.

I caught the whiff of a dead slave hanging from a tree a couple of miles back. You are not only losing a valuable stock by hangings, you are having uprisings, slaves are running away, your crops are sometimes left in the fields too long for maximum profit, you suffer occasional fires, your animals are killed.

Gentlemen, you know what your problems are: I do not need to elaborate. I am not here to enumerate your problems, I am here to introduce you to a method of solving them. In my bag here, I have a fool proof method for controlling your Black slaves. I guarantee everyone of you that if installed correctly it will control the slaves for at least 300 hundred years. My method is simple. Any member of your family or your overseer can use it.

I have outlined a number of differences among the slaves: and I take these differences and make them bigger. I use fear, distrust, and envy for control purposes. These methods have worked on my modest plantation in the West Indies and it will work throughout the South. Take this simple little list of differences, and think about them.

On top of my list is "Age", but it is there only because it starts with an "A": the second is "Color" or shade, there is intelligence, size, sex, size of plantations, status on plantation, attitude of owners, whether the slave live in the valley, on hill, East, West, North, South, have fine hair, coarse hair, or is tall or short. Now that you have a list of differences. I shall give you an outline of action-but before that I shall assure you that distrust is stronger than trust and envy is stronger than adulation, respect, or admiration.

The Black slave after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self re-fueling and self generating for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Don't forget you must pitch the old Black male vs. the young Black male, and the young Black male against the old Black male. You must use the dark skin slaves vs. the light skin slaves and the light skin slaves vs. the dark skin slaves. You must use the female vs. the male, and the male vs. the female. You must also have your white servants and overseers distrust all Blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us. They must love, respect and trust only us.

Gentlemen, these kits are your keys to control. Use them. Have your wives and children use them, never miss an opportunity. If used intensely for one year, the slaves themselves will remain perpetually distrustful. Thank you, gentlemen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lynch_Speech

I feel that you lack qualification to percieve proof. Can't you see the ontology?

Either way, as I have stated many times regarding world peace:
With regards to religion, belief systems, or beliefs, everybody has the right to them, and everybody has the right to impose them. When one pursues the prevention of people imposing their beliefs, they are suppressors. They may disagree, and impose their own beliefs, but preventing others from sharing and imposing their beliefs and religion is pure suppression.

The atheist religion imposes their beliefs more than any other religion on the planet, all the while fanatically supressing others from doing the same.

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Wizard

cs, that's a pretty bad approximation of a penis. And who has pointy balls like that, anyway? Come on!

Please tell me cs is given the retard award. I know he's an imbecile. And I know most people who are familiar with him would agree. But I want to see it anyway. I think it would do something in the way of removing all doubt. It would make it official.

Cesspool, here we come!

cs, that's a pretty bad approximation of a penis. And who has pointy balls like that, anyway? Come on!
It's not a penis duh.
It is the pointer to the Wizard of Sciforums.

I'm sure. Fag.

I'm sure. Fag.
I am sure that you are a fag too.

Play nice, kids.

Or esle. . .
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/579/chuckmuslimhe0.jpg

God is not a contradiction, and in fact is a perceivable entity - such perception of his reality (ontology) is fully dependant on the appropriate epistemology
For lack of a better term to convey my thoughts at the present time...

LMAO!!

Satyr, we may not see eye to eye, but in this instance you provided me with a huge laugh by pointing out this little gem by lightgigantic. Thank you! :D

I nominate you for both.

Oh come on :(

It was a compliment (I think). I also nominate him for both. He's an emotionally-retarded genius.

The words of wisdom are written on the subway walls.

Satyr was a great existential philospher. Have you read any of his works?

It was a compliment (I think). I also nominate him for both. He's an emotionally-retarded genius.
it should have read "emotionally retarded genius FAG.

It was a compliment (I think). I also nominate him for both. He's an emotionally-retarded genius.

Exactly.

Here's the honest truth I would say. Aside from people having the right to believe in whatever they wish, there is also a responsibility to humanity, science, and people overall not to allow such outmoded systems of thinking into society.

Much like the KKK members are allowed to parade around insulting the very fabric of what it means to be alive, so to does ignoring this not give us any real value. We must therefore stop being pussy's and decide that we will finally end the ridiculious belief systems that others hold so dear, only then can we truly find peace.

I'm saying they are wrong, and just because they want to be right does not make them so. We must take an overall view of the race, not just peoples own rights.

I'm saying they are wrong, and just because they want to be right does not make them so. We must take an overall view of the race, not just peoples own rights.

I'm saying sderenzi is wrong, and just because sderenzi wants to be right does not make him so. We must take an overall view of the race, not just peoples own rights.

The words of wisdom are written on the subway walls.

Satyr was a great existential philospher. Have you read any of his works?
You're thinking of Sartre.

You're thinking of Sartre.

how embarrasing...!

samcdkey I'm glad you agree, lol

Ugh, dude, you totally sarted in here, didn't you?
Man, that shit reeks :mad:

Don't you mean sharted?

I have an idea.

Why don’t you all provide your own nominations for a monthly award of RETARD and WIZARD.

I nominate first, for the Wizard of the month, for September, Dr. Lunatic for his sudden intervention here:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57346&page=6&pp=20

I also nominate, my current favorite retard, for the award of Retard of the month, for September, lightgigantic for this quote:
Well that brings us to the topic of transcendental pleasure, which is not subject to such dualistic definitions
Which entails both the roots of his own dim-wit and a supernatural, insinuation with no clarification.
Here:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1139452#post1139452

The words of wisdom are written on the subway walls.

Words of the prophets.. ;)

- N

I feel that you lack qualification to percieve proof. Can't you see the ontology?
You lack the proper epistemological training to interpret my ontological reality.

For his efforts of displaying retardation above and beyond any call for it, I nominate TimeTraveler for retard of the month.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140141&posted=1#post1140141

The “You can’t judge a book by its cover” is fraught with logical assumptions and feel-good hypohteticals.
That’s right.
We’ve evolved to perceive color for no reason at all.
Color says nothing about the phenomenon we perceive.

It’s an arbitrary sensual interpretation with no survival significance.

Thanks Sciforums.

My second nomination for Wizard is Godless for his tireless return of the subject back to its fundamentals and the eradication of any verbal smoke-screens and verbal acrobatics.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140143#post1140143

For continuing mental retardation both perplexity and Baron Max deserve a nomination for their undying contributions to mental deficiency.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140126#post1140126

Here we witness what dumbing-down results in.

When a mind is incapable of focusing on a subject for more than a few sentences or a quick quip then in what way is it capable of analyzing and thinking through the complexities necessary to produce a viable, ordered, precise opinion?

An absence of focus is a sign of an undisciplined simplistic, mind.

For their persistence to continually interject and participate in threads where they have nothing more to add than a quick, not well thought out comment, and for their persistence in thinking of themselves as intellectually able and relevant enough to comment at all I say:
Bravo!!!! Well done sirs!!!!

Obviously I am biased in evaluating your nominations since Baron Max is on my ignore list and hence I cannot enjoy his contributions, however, I would like to point out that our dear friend perplexity failed to spot the value of Dr Lou's miracle post. And that can hardly work in his favour in this process of selection. But then again neither had Timetraveler spotted the price.

It's not easy to pinpoint the 'winner'.

Another nomination for Wizard of the September should be given to Prince James.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57700

His tenacity and patience in participating in a discussion with no possibility for resolution with a retard without any potential of breaking out of its disease, makes one admire him….but also pity his loss of energy towards unproductive acts.

Another nomination should be given to spuriousmonkey for meeting me half way on another level and making a shared joke all the more funny.


spuriousmonkey
Obviously I am biased in evaluating your nominations since Baron Max is on my ignore list and hence I cannot enjoy his contributions,You must immediately take him off your ignore list. You are denying yourself too much entertainment.
Perhaps taking them too seriously is an issue with you.

The only thing that bothers me about them and their mental state is their sheer numbers.
They overwhelm with multiplicity.

however, I would like to point out that our dear friend perplexity failed to spot the value of Dr Lou's miracle post. And that can hardly work in his favour in this process of selection. But then again neither had Timetraveler spotted the price.

It's not easy to pinpoint the 'winner'.It’s a thankless, selfless job, dear friend, but someone has to do it.
I take up this burden reluctantly and with full awareness concerning my heavy responsibilities.

Dr. Lou’s commentary flashed on screen with little recognition.
Only a few could fully appreciate it.

if you say the right negative thing about spuriousmonkeys country he'll put you on his ignore list. therefor i nominate spuriousmonkey as this months retard.
he can dish it out but he can't take it. i cannot begin to count the negative things he has said about america. this, on my part, started out as a joke, but apparently the monkeyman can't take a joke.

the dutch are ball-less, gutless, spineless dweebs

if you say the right negative thing about spuriousmonkeys country he'll put you on his ignore list. therefor i nominate spuriousmonkey as this months retard.
he can dish it out but he can't take it. i cannot begin to count the negative things he has said about america. this, on my part, started out as a joke, but apparently the monkeyman can't take a joke.

the dutch are ball-less, gutless, spineless dweebsFinally another contribution.
Thanks.

I’ll take your nomination into consideration when I make my final decision at the end of the month.

Nominated for Retard of September is Muslim.
His misconstruing of 'philosophy forum' for a 'get-laid forum' is priceless.

Perhaps his having problems getting-some would be less obvious if he ever stopped bragging about his supposed exploits and if he stopped self-promoting so blatantly.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57679

On the side

Would one of you selfless girls finally agree to perform oral sex on this guy and save him from his Islamic sexual anxiety?
He cannot wait for the promised 77 virgins Allah will provide in the after-life.
he wants some NOW!!!!
Forward any interest to my private message.

Finally another contribution.
Thanks.

I’ll take your nomination into consideration when I make my final decision at the end of the month.

In my defense I can only come clean with my brilliant strategy. Nothing pisses off an American more than the knowledge that he means nothing.

And what else does the ignore list symbolizes than a devaluation of importance? The American that means nothing. Is there a greater insult? As you can see by leopold's reaction there is not.

:D

WAH-WAH
leopold said something bad about my country now i'm gonna hide.
brilliant strategy?
the last time the dutch came up with anything brilliant was . . . was . . . uh, NEVER!

Dutch cheese is good.

You're thinking of Sartre.You have quite made my day. Thank you. :)

Kant claimed that Time/Space were a priori concepts which are added by the mind as a way it conceptualizes.

Sartre claimed that space was produced by the negating consciousness which creates distances, through negation, to discern particulars in the multiplicity.

Heidegger described space as that which distinguishes the near-at-hand, or soemthing like that – although his definitions were much more elaborate.

TimeTraveler wins a nomination for RETARD of the month here:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140310#post1140310

For this gem, amongst a treasure trove of sparkling rocks:
How many times do you have to see the christ energy come back over and over again in different people?

How many times do you have to see evil to recognize this energy is a cosmic energy?

Yes. This is the mind of an average mind in today’s world.

Nope. He has an IQ of 127. He said that, I think.

But Tor claims to have an IQ of 155 and she once spelled the word "whore" as hoare. So. Whatever!

I would be remiss not to nominate for retard of all time Buddha1 who, oh so long ago, was such an inspiring voice of homosexual desperation and mental retardation.

I never knew men were genetically attracted to other males and had to be culturally brainwashed into sex with females.

Thanks Sciforums!!!!

Nope. He has an IQ of 127. He said that, I think.

But Tor claims to have an IQ of 155 and she once spelled the word "whore" as hoare. So. Whatever!
It’s better to say what your I.Q is than it is to actually prove it or show it.

:rolleyes:
I have a 12 inch dick!!!!
Enough said.

Mine is 30 cm because I am European.

Mine is 30 cm because I am European.Show-off!
We’re Americans here - special and unique and selfless and altruistic and God fearing folk.
We are well-informed and, most of all, free; we have free-pres and we are not gullible or stupid.
We use inches and speak American and we are loving and compassionate and giving.

We’re Democratic do-gooders in a world of fascists evil-doers.
We are the chosen ones; god’s armies. We have soul and are probably going to heaven or we’re going to be reincarnated as higher-beings.

I would be remiss not to nominate for retard of all time Buddha1
i think happeh deserves that spot.

Despite that the message is hidden I can still respond:

blabla.

Despite that the message is hidden I can still respond:

blabla.
what's up monkeyman? can't stand to have your face rubbed in it?

leopold's talking about my country, i'm gonna pout.

Theopryofrelativity gets a nominating nod for her RETARDATION, despite her 155 I.Q., for this:
who said God was creator of religion and philosophy? You are presuming to create God!

Man created religion, philosophising is merely thinking, we all do that.

We can NOT presume to know what the limitations of God are or are not. You are saying God is this and that, and therfore he isn't at all?

If he cannot be the things you say he is, then you are correct, he is not the things you say he is, just means he is something you say he isn't.

We have no clue as to what, how or where God is, we just ponder and that is all that we can do.

She seems to have a problem with making assumptions about a hypothetical unknown, but has no problem assuming a hypothetical is known.

In other words she can conjure up a hypothetical absolute to explain a mystery but finds difficulty in making any hypothesis about it because it is unknowable.
Interesting.

She is unreasoned and jumps to illogical assumptions if it satisfies her but the minute it becomes uncomfortable she returns to reason and cries foul.
Fascinating.

This is empiricism and logic selectively applied.
Let us make a leap of faith, based on no grounds at all, to explain an unknown but then let us stop ourselves from becoming ridiculous or let us stop ourselves from uncovering how ridiculous we’ve been.
Enthralling.

This reminds me of the religious practice of claiming God, the unseen, hypothetical entity, is the prime creator and that he needs no cause but they originally avoid assuming the exact same thing for the universe which is both seen and obvious.
Captivating.

Is this what 155 I.Q points thinks like?

Thank you Sciforums.


http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=22326&page=3&pp=20

She seems to have a problem with making assumptions about a hypothetical unknown, but has no problem assuming a hypothetical is known.

In other words she can conjure up a hypothetical absolute to explain a mystery but finds difficulty in making any hypothesis about it because it is unknowable.
You'd problably enjoy DeSade's 'Conversation between a priest and a dying man'...1782:

PRIEST - Come to this the fatal hour when at last from the eyes of deluded man the scales must fall away, and be shown the cruel picture of his errors and his vices - say, my son, do you not repent the host of sins unto which you were led by weakness and human frailty?

DYING MAN - Yes, my friend, I do repent.

PRIEST - Rejoice then in these pangs of remorse, during the brief space remaining to you profit therefrom to obtain Heaven’s general absolution for your sins, and be mindful of it, only through the mediation of the Most Holy Sacrament of penance will you be granted it by the Eternal.

DYING MAN - I do not understand you, any more than you have understood me.

PRIEST - Eh?

DYING MAN - I told you that I repented.

PRIEST - I heard you say it.

DYING MAN - Yes, but without understanding it.

PRIEST - My interpretation -

DYING MAN - Hold. I shall give you mine. By Nature created, created with very keen tastes, with very strong passions; placed on this earth for the sole purpose of yielding to them and satisfying them, and these effects of my creation being naught but necessities directly relating to Nature’s fundamental designs or, if you prefer, naught but essential derivatives proceeding from her intentions in my regard, all in accordance with her laws, I repent not having acknowledged her omnipotence as fully as I might have done, I am only sorry for the modest use I made of the faculties (criminal in your view, perfectly ordinary in mine) she gave me to serve her; I did sometimes resist her, I repent it. Misled by your absurd doctrines, with them for arms I mindlessly challenged the desires instilled in me by a much diviner inspiration, and thereof do I repent: I only plucked an occasional flower when I might have gathered an ample harvest of fruit - such are the just grounds for the regrets I have, do me the honor of considering me incapable of harboring any others.

PRIEST - Lo! where your fallacies take you, to what pass are you brought by your sophistries! To created being you ascribe all the Creator’s power, and those unlucky penchants which have led you astray, ah! do you not see they are merely the products of corrupted nature, to which you attribute omnipotence?

DYING MAN -Friend - it looks to me as though your dialectic were as false as your thinking. Pray straighten your arguing or else leave me to die in peace. What do you mean by Creator, and what do you mean by corrupted nature?

PRIEST - The Creator is the master of the universe, ‘tis He who has wrought everything, everything created, and who maintains it all through the mere fact of His omnipotence.

DYING MAN - An impressive figure indeed. Tell me now why this so very formidable fellow did nevertheless, as you would have it, create a corrupted nature?

PRIEST - What glory would men ever have, had not God left them free will; and in the enjoyment thereof, what merit could come to them, were there not on earth the possibility of doing good and that of avoiding evil?

DYING MAN - And so your god bungled his work deliberately, in order to tempt or test his creature - did he then not know, did he then not doubt what the result would be?

PRIEST - He knew it undoubtedly but, once again, he wished to leave man the merit of choice.

DYING MAN - And to what purpose, since from the outset he knew the course affairs would take and since, all-mighty as you tell me he is, he had but to make his creature choose as suited him?

PRIEST - Who is there can penetrate God’s vast and infinite designs regarding man, and who can grasp all that makes up the universal scheme?

DYING MAN - Anyone who simplifies matters, my friend, anyone, above all, who refrains from multiplying causes in order to confuse effects all the more. What need have you of a second difficulty when you are unable to resolve the first, and once it is possible that Nature may have all alone done what you attrubute to your god, why must you go looking for someone to be her overlord? The cause and explanation of what you do not understand may perhaps be the simplest thing in the world. Perfect your physics and you will understand Nature better, refine your reason, banish your prejudices and you’ll have no further need of your god.

PRIEST - Wretched man! I took you for no worse than a Socinian - arms I had to combat you. But ‘tis clear you are an athiest, and seeing that your heart is shut to the authentic and innumerable proofs we receive every day of our lives of the Creator’s existence - I have no more to say to you. There is no restoring the blind to the light.

DYING MAN - Softly, my friend, own that between the two, he who blindfolds himself must surely see less of the light than he who snatches the blindfold away from his eyes. You compose, you construct, you dream, you magnify and complicate; I sift, I simplify. You accumulate errors, pile one atop the other; I combat them all. Which one of us is blind?

PRIEST - Then you do not believe in God at all?

DYING MAN - No. And for one very sound reason: it is perfectly impossible to believe in what one does not understand. Between understanding and faith immediate connections must subsist; understanding is the very lifeblood of faith; where understanding has ceased, faith is dead; and when they who are in such a case proclaim they have faith, they deceive. You yourself, preacher, I defy you to believe in the god you predicate to me - you must fail because you cannot demonstrate him to me, because it is not in you to define him to me, because consequently you do not understand him - because as of the moment you do not understand him, you can no longer furnish me any reasonable argument concerning him, and because, in sum, anything beyond the limits and grasp of the human mind is either illusion or futility; and because your god having to be one or the other of the two, in the first instance I should be mad to believe in him, in the second a fool. My friend, prove to me that matter is inert and I will grant you a creator, prove to me that Nature does not suffice to herself and I’ll let you imagine her ruled by a higher force; until then, expect nothing from me, I bow to evidence only, and evidence I perceive only through my senses: my belief goes no farther than they, beyond that point my faith collapses. I believe in the sun because I see it, I conceive it as the focal center of all the inflammable matter in Nature, its periodic movement pleases but does not amaze me. ‘Tis a machanical operation, perhaps as simple as the workings of electricity, but which we are unable to understand. Need I bother more about it? when you have roofed everthing over with your god, will I be any the better off? and shall I still not have to make an effort at least as great to understand the artisan as to define his handiwork? By edifying your chimera it is thus no service you have rendered me, you have made me uneasy in my mind but you have not enlightened it, and instead of gratitude I owe you resentment. You god is a machine you fabricated in your passions’ behalf, you manipulated it to their liking; but the day it interfered with mine, I kicked it out of my way, deem it fitting that I did so; and now, at this moment when I sink and my soul stands in need of calm and philosophy, belabor it not with your riddles and your cant, which alarm but will not convince it, which will irritate without improving it; good friends and on the best terms have we ever been, this soul and I, so Nature wished it to be; as it is, so she expressly modeled it, for my soul is the result of the dispositions she formed in me pursuant to her own ends and needs; and as she has an equal need of vices and virtues, whenever she was pleased to move me to evil, she did so, whenever she wanted a good deed from me, she roused in me the desire to perform one, and even so I did as I was bid. Look nowhere but to her workings for the unique cause of our fickle human behavior, and in her laws hope to find no other springs than her will and her requirements.

PRIEST - And so whatever is in this world, is necessary.

DYING MAN - Exactly.

PRIEST - But if everything is necessary - then the whole is regulated.

DYING MAN - I am not the one to deny it.

PRIEST - And what can regulate the whole save it be an all-powerful and all-knowing hand?

DYING MAN - Say, is it not necessary that gunpowder ignite when you set a spark to it?

PRIEST - Yes.

DYING MAN - And do you find any presence of wisdom in that?

PRIEST - None.

DYING MAN - It is then possible that things necessariliy come about without being determined by a superior intelligence, and possible hence that everything derive logically from a primary cause, without there being either reason or wisdom in that primary cause.

PRIEST - What are you aiming at?

DYING MAN - At proving to you that the world and all therein may be what it is and as you see it to be, without any wise and reasoning cause directing it, and that natural effects must have natural causes: natural causes sufficing, there is no need to invent any such unnatural ones as your god who himself, as I have told you already, would require to be explained and who would at the same time be the explanation of nothing; and that once ‘tis plain your god is superfluous, he is perfectly useless; that what is useless would greatly appear to be imaginary only, null and therefore non-existent; thus, to conclude that your god is a fiction I need no other argument than that which furnishes me the certitude of his inutility.

PRIEST - At that rate there is no great need for me to talk to you about religion.

DYING MAN - True, but why not anyhow? Nothing so much amuses me as this sign of the extent to which human beings have been carried away by fanaticism and stupidity; although the prodigious spectacle of folly we are facing here may be horrible, it is always interesting. Answer me honestly, and endeavor to set personal considerations aside: were I weak enough to fall victim to your silly theories concerning the fabulous existence of the being who renders religion necessary, under what form would you advise me to worship him? Would you have me adopt the daydreams of Confucius rather than the absurdities of Brahma, should I kneel before the great snake to which the blacks pray, invoke the Peruvian’s sun or Moses’ Lord of Hosts, to which Mohammedan sect should I rally, or which Christian heresy would be preferable in your view? Be careful how you reply.

PRIEST - Can it be doubtful?

DYING MAN - Then ‘tis egotistical.

PRIEST - No, my son, ‘tis as much out of love for thee as for myself I urge thee to embrace my creed.

DYING MAN - And I wonder how the one or the other of us can have much love for himself, to deign to listen to such degrading nonsense.

PRIEST - But who can be mistaken about the miracles wrought by our Divine Redeemer?

DYING MAN - He who sees in him anything else than the most vulgar of all tricksters and the most arrent of all imposters.

PRIEST - O God, you hear him and your wrath thunders not forth!

DYING MAN - No my friend, all is peace and quiet around us, because your god, be it from impotence or from reason or from whatever you please, is a being whose existence I shall momentarily concede out of condescension for you or, if you prefer, in order to accommodate myself to your sorry little perspective; because this god, I say, were he to exist, as you are mad enough to believe, could not have selected as means to persuade us, anything more ridiculous than those your Jesus incarnates.

PRIEST - What! the prophecies, the miracles, the martyrs - are they not so many proofs?

DYING MAN - How, so long as I abide by the rules of logic, how would you have me accept as proof anything which itself is lacking proof? Before a prophecy could constitute proof I should first have to be completely certain it was ever pronounced; the prophecies history tells us of belong to history and for me they can only have the force of other historical facts, whereof three out of four are exceedingly dubious; if to this I add the strong probability that they have been transmitted to us by not very objective historians, who recorded what they preferred to have us read, I shall be quite within my rights if I am Skeptical. And furthermore, who is there to assure me that this prophecy was not made after the fact, that it was not a strategem of everyday political scheming, like that which predicts a happy reign under a just king, or frost in wintertime? As for your miracles, I am not any readier to be taken in by such rubbish. All rascals have performed them, all fools have believed in them; before I’d be persuaded of the truth of a miracle I would have to be very sure the event so called by you was absolutely contrary to the laws of Nature, for only what is outside of Nature can pass for miraculous; and who is so deeply learned in Nature that he can affirm the precise point where it is infringed upon? Only two things are needed to accredit an alleged miracle, a mountebank and a few simpletons; tush, there’s the whole origin of your prodigies; all new adherents to a religious sect have wrought some; anf more extraordinary still, all have found imbeciles around to believe them. Your Jesus’ feats do not surpass those of Apollonius of Tyana, yet nobody thinks to take the latter for a god; and when we come to your martyrs, assuredly, these are the feeblest of all your arguments. To produce martyrs you need but to have enthusiasm on the one hand, resistance on the other; and so long as an opposed cause offers me as many of them as does yours, I shall never be sufficiently authorized to believe one better than the other, but rather very much inclined to consider all of them pitiable. Ah my friend! were it true that the god you preach did exist, would he need miracle, martyr, or prophecy to secure recognition? anf if, as you declare, the human heart were of his making, would he not have chosen it for the repository of his law? Then would this law, impartial for all mankind because eminating from a just god, then would it be found graved deep and writ clear in all men alike, and from one end of the world to the other, all men, having this delicate and sensitive organ in common, would also resemble eachother through the homage they would render the god whence they had got it; all would adore and serve him in one identical manner, and they would be as incapable of disregarding this god as of resisting the inward impulse to worship him. Instead of that, what do I behold throughout this world? As many gods as there are countries; as many different cults as there are different minds or different imaginations; and this swarm of opinions among which it physically impossible for me to choose, say now, is this a just god’s doing? Fie upon you, preacher, you outrage your god when you present him to me thus; rather let me deny him completely, for if he exists then I outrage him far less by my incredulity than do you through your blasphemies. Return to your senses, preacher, your Jesus is no better than Mohammed, Mohammed no better than Moses, and the three of them combined no better than Confucius, who did after all have some wise things to say while the others did naught but rave; in general, though, such people are all mere frauds: philosophers laughed at them, the mob believed them, and justice ought to have hanged them.

PRIEST - Alas, justice dealt only too harshly with one of the four.

DYING MAN - If he alone got what he deserved it was he who deserved it most richly; seditious, turbulent, calumniating, dishonest, libertine, a clumsy buffoon, and very mischievous; he had the art of overawing common folk and stirring up the rabble; and hencecame in line for punishment in a kingdom where the state of affairs was what it was in Jerusalem then. They were very wise indeed to get rid of him, and this perhaps is one case in which my extremely lenient and also extremely tolerant maxims are able to allow the severity of Themis; I excuse any misbehavior save that which may endanger the government one lives under, kings and their majesties are the only thing I respect; and whoever does not love his country and his king were better dead than alive.

PRIEST - But you do surely believe something awaits us after this life, you must at some time or another have sought to pierce the dark shadows enshrouding our mortal fate, and what other theory could have satisfied your anxious spirit, than that of the numberless woes that betide him who has lived wickedly, and an eternity of rewards for him whose life has been good?

DYING MAN - What other, my friend? that of nothingness, it has never held terrors for me, in it I see naught but what is consoling and unpretentious; all other theories are of pride’s composition, this one alone is of reason’s. Moreover, ‘tis neither dreadful nor absolute, this nothingness. Before my eyes have I not the example of Nature’s perpetual generations and regenerations? Nothing perishes in the world, my friend, nothing is lost; man today, worm tomorrow, the day after tomorrow a fly; is it not to keep steadily on existing? And what entitles me to be rewarded for virtues which are in me through no fault of my own, or again punished for crimes wherefore the ultimate responsibility is not mine? how are you to put your alleged god’s goodness into tune with this system, and can he have wished to create me in order to reap pleasure from punishing me, and that solely on account of a choice he does not leave me free will to determine?

PRIEST - You are free.

DYING MAN - Yes, in terms of your prejudices; but reason puts them to rout, and the theory of human freedom was never devised except to fabricate that of grace, which was to aquire such importance in your reveries. What man on earth, seeing the scaffold a step beyond the crime, would commit it were he free not to commit it? We are the pawns of an irresistable force, and never for an instant is it within our power to do anything but make the best of our lot and forge ahead along the path that has been traced for us. There is not a single virtue which is not necessary to Nature and conversely not a single crime which she does not need and it is in the perfect balance she maintains between the one and the other that her immense science consists; but can we be guilty for adding our weight to this side or that when it is she who tosses us onto the scales? no more so than the hornet who thrusts his dart into your skin.

PRIEST - Then we should not shrink from the worst of all crimes.

DYING MAN - I say nothing of the kind. Let the evil deed be proscribed by law, let justice smite the criminal, that will be deterrent enough; but if by misfortune we do commit it even so, let’s not cry over spilled milk; remorse is inefficacious, since it does not stay us from crime, futile since it does not repair it, therefore it is absurd to beat one’s breast, more absurd still to dread being punished in another world if we have been lucky to escape it in this. God forbid that this be construed as encouragement to crime, no, we should avoid it as much as we can, but one must learn to shun it through reason and not through false fears which lead to naught and whose effects are so quickly overcome in any moderately steadfast soul. Reason, sir - yes, our reason alone should warn us that harm done our fellows can never bring happiness to us; and our heart, that contributing to their felicity is the greatest joy Nature has accorded us on earth; the entirety of human morals is contained in this one phrase: Render others as happy as one desires oneself to be, and never inflict more pain upon them than one would like to receive at their hands. There you are, my friend, those are the only principles we should observe, and you need neither god nor religion to appreciate and subscribe to them, you need only have a good heart. But I feel my strength ebbing away; preacher, put away your prejudices, unbend, be a man, be human, without fear and without hope forget your gods and your religions too: they are none of them good for anything but to set man at odds with man, and the mere name of these horrors has caused greater loss of life on earth than all other wars and all other plagues combined. Renounce the idea of another world; there is none, but do not renounce the pleasure of being happy and of making for happiness in this. Nature offers you no other way of doubling your existence, of extending it. - My friend, lewd pleasures were ever dearer to me than anything else, I have idolized tham all my life and my wish has been to end it in their bosom; my end draws near, six women lovelier than the light of day are waiting in the chamber adjoining, I have reserved them for this moment, partake of the feast with me, following my example embrace them instead of the vain sophistries of superstition, under their caresses strive for a little while to forget your hypocritical beliefs.

can i nominate mattmarr for the retard of the month award for this

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57401

Carcano
Well done.

I value your effort, even in the typing, to those that do not warrant any such effort.

can i nominate mattmarr for the retard of the month award for this

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57401Thanks for uncovering another RETARD.
mattmarr undoubtedly qualifies.
He will certainly be considered as one of the best – a classic retard.

Carcano
Well done.

I value your effort, even in the typing, to those that do not warrant any such effort.Didn't type it...I pasted it from the host site.

DeSade's writing 'voice' reminds me of your own somehow.

A new nomination (Jee this forum is full of retards.)
Go figure.

Diogenes' Dog is nominated for:
I think God is there for anyone if you really go looking. Lots of people will tell you it's not something easily put into words, let alone proved.
Isn’t everything there if you “really go looking”?

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140506#post1140506

Let us now believe in what cannot be put into words nor proven.
Let us believe in an intuitive ‘truth’ – an absolute intuitive truth.

This guy only pales in comparison to lightgigantic for religious retardation and fanaticism.
He is living proof of what it takes to just believe and what type of mind is attracted to religion.

Is anyone troubled by the fact that these people get to vote?

Why did bush get elected?
Let us ponder the reasons.

id also like to nominate sdrenzi for:
a.)the problems he actually has
b.)deciding to post those problems on here
c.)for totally ignoring everyones advice and carrying on his own way
d.)making more threads on the subject of 'love'

infact can we make a loser of the month nomination?

Why did bush get elected?
Let us ponder the reasons.

What the hell sort of problem do you have with my president? He's a good and honest man, more than anyone can say about you.

I can show some retarded comments:

1.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker:
"So now we find out that the true motivation behind your impassioned campaign for a meatless diet is that you are an animal rights activist?"

DESCRIPTION:
This was in response to me saying that a meatless diet is important not because of animal rights, but because of human biology.


2.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker:
"I seem to know a lot more about the subject than you do"

DESCRIPTION:
Such infantile comments have no place in any logical discussion.


3.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker:
"for you to tell them it's okay not to eat protein is malevolent.”

DESCRIPTION:
My statement that veg-foods give humans all the protein they need is suddenly translated by this idiot to mean that it is okay for humans not to eat protein.


4.
Originally Posted by spacemansteve:
"because they don't believe in what you believe and start calling them ignorant:

DESCRIPTION
My calling people ignorant because of their ignorant insinuations and lack of logic is suddenly translated by this idiot to mean that I am calling them ignorant because they disagree with what I am saying.


5.
Originally Posted by spacemansteve:
"It is my opinion that when a person is cornered or maybe realises that what they believe in might be flawed, they resort to profanities.”

DESCRIPTION
This idiot is crying because he got cussed out for making brainless comments that defy logic. He is now claiming that he got cussed out for delusional reasons.


6.
Originally Posted by spacemansteve:
"You don't know the first thing about military structure, capabilities or statistics. You don't know the difference between size and composition of said forces. You don't know what you are talking about.”

"I am giving you professional advice on an issue i know a great deal about”

"Just for your information, I'm a pilot in the Air Force, i fly high tech machinery (F/A-18 Hornet) requiring high level of decision making, quick thinking, high logic and an analytical brain. In about 5 years time i'll go back to University finish my"

DESCRIPTION
Ad Verecundiam which is very similar to Ad Hominem, but the other way around. Idiots use this type of reasoning. Idiots advocate this type of reasoning. This type of reasoning is immediately dismissed, and thrown into the dumpsters where it belongs by anybody with even the slightest intelligence.



7.
Originally Posted by spacemansteve"
"What do you do?"

Originally Posted by G. F. Schleebenhorst:
"Are you black cool skill?"

"Well cool skill, I only asked if you were black (still waiting on an answer"

DESCRIPTION
Sometimes people ask what somebody does out of curiosity. Closeminded ignorametards with no logic have Ad Hominem thought patterns, and ask such questions because they truly believe it has the slightest relevance on any subject matter, and will use it to invalidate without regard to the logic of the topic.


8.
Originally Posted by G. F. Schleebenhorst:
cool skill, you are an omnivore, end of discussion. ”

DESCRIPTIN
When a retard makes a comment such as "end of discussion", it shows lack of insight. I simply responded with>
" Humans are not omnivores. 'End of discussion.' "


9.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker:
"The problem with Cool is that he doesn't seem to understand what the word "science" means. A scientist never ends a statement with the phrase, "End of discussion." Only preachers and your mom do that”

DESCRIPTION
The only reason I used the phrase "end of discussion" was to mock GF. Here we have an idiot claiming that I do not understand what "science" means as if I was the one using the phrase.


10.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker:
"Do a google on "humans omnivores.""

DESCRIPTION
Here we are discussing whether or not humans are ominvores or frugavores. Instead of doing an objective search on google regarding both sides of the argument, this moron does a one-sided search only on 'humans omnivores'.


11.
Originally Posted by thedevilsreject:
"quite a lot farmers would kill the remaining cows so they do not use up their land, sell what ever they can to recoup some costs and then sell off their land etc.. they would most certainly not let their old cows wander around the fields to let them lead a happy life"

DESCRIPTION
The "would" statements of the fantasy world. Intellects do not spout out illegitimate 'would' statements, but understand that although there may be a number of various repercussions to various actions, there are sound solutions for many problems.
Such statements are a foundation for circular reasoning.


12.
Originally Posted by G. F. Schleebenhorst
"now you're squirming, trying to pretend you don't care"

DESCRIPTION
This is one of the most obnoxious arguments used by many idiots. I have come across this argument dozens of times. While a logical individual makes normal statements properly supporting a point, idiots go into a fit about how they are squirming, digging themselves into a hole, or trying to wriggle their way out of the argument. It's an illogical presumption.


13.
Originally Posted by spacemansteve:
"Pilots getting dropped from Flight Duty. One of them was a vegetarian"

DESCRIPTION
In attempts to prove that eating meat is healthier than eating veg, this idiot claims that one vegetarian was dropped from flight duty while the rest of the rejects were meat eaters.
Trying to prove a point by using an example that completely contradicts his point.
This same moron attempted to prove that China has a more powerful military that the USA, all the while citing statistics showing America's military to be far larger than China's.


14.
Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker”
“I guess it's time to open this up for peer review”

DESCRIPTION
This imbecile does not understand that nobody gives a crap about peer review or any other form of illogical methods. When it comes to facts pure facts, all the peer review on the planet will not change pure facts.

I nominate cool skill for pretending to be Satyr.

I nominate cool skill for sucking.

I nominate Roman for having a better reason to nominate cool skill than mine.

I nominate Satyr for Retard status based upon a false absolute statement he made in this very thread.Isn’t everything there if you “really go looking”?.No. My car keys were not.

My car keys were not.

Did you really go looking for them? Or did you just do the man-thing looking.

I looked absolutely everywhere, darling. :cool:

I looked absolutely everywhere, darling.

Translation.: I looked in the couch by the TV and the bathroom

I lost my phone yesterday. I looked 5 times in the couch. Between cushions and all. Nothing.

Looked again 3 hours later. It miraculously had appeared.

halaluja! Praise the lord!

haleluja Praise the couch, keeper of all things lost

Read this RETARD TimeTraveler explain how energy means consciousness lives on:
When you run out of energy, you are dead physically, but your energy moves on, if you are a fish in a pound, everything you do in life has an effect and makes ripples in that pound, because you aren't just your physical body, you are what you do. What you did in life will outlast your physical body, just as with Christ, what he did with his life lasted thousands of years, influenced the world in such a way that people still talk about what he did now, and because of this, his energy is not gone because people can become Christian. Hitler's energy also lives on, as people still channel the energy/spirit of Hitler to this day.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140907#post1140907

This is the type of mind that scares the shit out of me.

He has taken the Laws of Thermodynamics and extrapolated an absurdity.
He’s really using those 127 I.Q. points well.
Preservation of energy, for him, means there is a soul, a spirit, a consciousness that is timeless and accessible.

Thanks America for producing such greatness.
He's definitely earned another nomination.

i nominate Satyr for the title of "All Time Greatest Retard" for creating this thread and travling the forums wasting his time finding posts he does not like

Read this RETARD TimeTraveler explain how energy means consciousness lives on:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1140907#post1140907

This is the type of mind that scares the shit out of me.

He has taken the Laws of Thermodynamics and extrapolated an absurdity.
He’s really using those 127 I.Q. points well.
Preservation of energy, for him, means there is a soul, a spirit, a consciousness that is timeless and accessible.

Thanks America for producing such greatness.
He's definitely earned another nomination.

I think all he is doing is describing the butteryfly effect (I didn't follow the link, I just read what you posted).

If you see otherwise, let me know.

i have sifted through this whole thread, and i am severely disappointed.

despite FOUR STRAIGHT MONTHS of posting nonsense, i have not been nominated for retard yet.

i guess ill have to try harder.

i have sifted through this whole thread, and i am severely disappointed.

despite FOUR STRAIGHT MONTHS of posting nonsense, i have not been nominated for retard yet.

i guess ill have to try harder.
im sure i'll find something :p

Well you post nonsense but I think most would agree you are not a retard.

Would you be offended if someone nominated you as a wizard? Perhaps because you know it's stupid to take most SF users seriously and it is futile to converse with the unintelligent?

Well you post nonsense but I think most would agree you are not a retard.

Would you be offended if someone nominated you as a wizard? Perhaps because you know it's stupid to take most SF users seriously and it is futile to converse with the unintelligent?
i would seriously question their integrity if they were to nominate me for such a thing.

i dont take myself seriously....so i find it a bit hard to take anyone else seriously. :p

In that case, I nominate TDI for Wizard, based on his perspicacity in realising the futility of banging one's head against the wall of ignorance and also on his wisdom in dissecting arguments to their bone and exposing them for what they truly are, egoistic assumptions masquerading as knowledge.

The Devil Inside
i have sifted through this whole thread, and i am severely disappointed.

despite FOUR STRAIGHT MONTHS of posting nonsense, i have not been nominated for retard yet.

i guess ill have to try harder.You are on the right track
Persistence will win you recognition as Retard of the month.
Who knows you might even win and get to thank Jesus and your mom.


Kunax
i nominate Satyr for the title of "All Time Greatest Retard" for creating this thread and travling the forums wasting his time finding posts he does not likeNo, that’s the LOSER award.

Absane
I think all he is doing is describing the butteryfly effect (I didn't follow the link, I just read what you posted).

If you see otherwise, let me know.Does this sound like the Butterfly Effect?
When you run out of energy, you are dead physically, but your energy moves on, if you are a fish in a pound, everything you do in life has an effect and makes ripples in that pound, because you aren't just your physical body, you are what you do. What you did in life will outlast your physical body, just as with Christ, what he did with his life lasted thousands of years, influenced the world in such a way that people still talk about what he did now, and because of this, his energy is not gone because people can become Christian. Hitler's energy also lives on, as people still channel the energy/spirit of Hitler to this day.

Does this sound like the Butterfly Effect?
It does, just in crazy psycho New Age babble jargon.

In that case, I nominate TDI for Wizard, based on his perspicacity in realising the futility of banging one's head against the wall of ignorance and also on his wisdom in dissecting arguments to their bone and exposing them for what they truly are, egoistic assumptions masquerading as knowledge.
i had such a decent opinion of you, too....
:(

Absane
Does this sound like the Butterfly Effect?
When you run out of energy, you are dead physically, but your energy moves on, if you are a fish in a pound, everything you do in life has an effect and makes ripples in that pound, because you aren't just your physical body, you are what you do. What you did in life will outlast your physical body, just as with Christ, what he did with his life lasted thousands of years, influenced the world in such a way that people still talk about what he did now, and because of this, his energy is not gone because people can become Christian. Hitler's energy also lives on, as people still channel the energy/spirit of Hitler to this day.

I am looking at it in a symbolic fashion. If I take his wording differently (a bit more literally), then it is stupid.

What exactly do you read in this?

I am not saying that I am right and you are wrong. And I do not presuppose it couldn't be the other way around. From my chair it's a matter of interpretation because I have no clue what he "speaks" nor do I care. I am just curious as to what you see when you read that passage?

The Devil Inside
You are on the right track
Persistence will win you recognition as Retard of the month.
Who knows you might even win and get to thank Jesus and your mom.


i peed my pants this afternoon, in an attempt to clinch the nomination.

or is it just for forum contributions?

goddamnit.

It does, just in crazy psycho New Age babble jargon.

Heh.

I wish I thought of that wording when I typed up my reply. :cool:

I nominate spuriousmonkey for the retard of the year for critizing the USA, the american people, and American foreign policy.

Because it is so pointless and retarded to show Americans how american they are.

I am looking at it in a symbolic fashion. If I take his wording differently (a bit more literally), then it is stupid.

What exactly do you read in this?

I am not saying that I am right and you are wrong. And I do not presuppose it couldn't be the other way around. From my chair it's a matter of interpretation because I have no clue what he "speaks" nor do I care. I am just curious as to what you see when you read that passage?
What do you make of this?
Hitler's energy also lives on, as people still channel the energy/spirit of Hitler to this day.

The parts that made up Hitler can be said to continue on but can it be said that Hitler “lives on” and can be “channeled”.

I know when I take a crap part s of the chicken are there, but I can’t seem to make it cluck and peck.


The Devil Inside
i peed my pants this afternoon, in an attempt to clinch the nomination.Liar. You peed your pants because that’s what you always do.


spuriousmonkey
Americans are very American.
But they’ll take that as a compliment because….well, because they’re Americans.

i had such a decent opinion of you, too....
:(

Shake it, daddy. ;)

Shake it, daddy. ;)
thats more like it.

i never stop.

thats more like it.

i never stop.

I'm offended.

Both by your name and your avatar's depiction of my Lord and Savior: Jesus Christ.

I hope you burn in hell.

*cry*

I'm offended.

Both by your name and your avatar's depiction of my Lord and Savior: Jesus Christ.

I hope you burn in hell.

*cry*
jesus was BY FAR the sexiest messiah.
there is no debate here.

and..im jewish. we dont believe in hell.

What do you make of this?

“ Hitler's energy also lives on, as people still channel the energy/spirit of Hitler to this day.

The parts that made up Hitler can be said to continue on but can it be said that Hitler “lives on” and can be “channeled”.
I think, if you strip away the new-age psychobabble, what's being hinted at is that the 'spirit', ie the motivations and philosophy, of Hitler lives on, in the minds and actions of the ultra-right-wing headcases who continue to celebrate his birthday.

What we owe animals is the sacrifice of time and effort to make each species successful.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=55763&page=1&pp=20

If by successful, he met delicious, then I agree completely. Otherwise I'd like to nominate MetaKron for Bullied Ignoramus.

I want to have Roman's babies.

And I want his banana.

Ur gunna have to wait in line Absane

I want to have Roman's babies.

And I want his banana.
you better watch it.....
I AM THE VILLAGE IDIOT OF THIS FORUM.....
not you.

you are on notice, fuck-o!

I nominate cool skill for the retard award:




Do you employ restaurant waiters or seasonal farm workers from other countries?



I suggest you go misquote somebody else.



That was a question, not a quote.



Wrong.




And I nominate WesMorris for the Wizard award for his societal definition of 'God':

"God is the bullshit that binds us together in purpose"

Actually I co-nominate (Q) for Wizard because of this awesome quote:

"I've failed to help you realize the difference between reality and fantasy"

i nominate (Q) for this little gem

Yeah, smoooooooooooth

(Q)'s an atheist douche-bag.

i nominate muslim for prick of the month for insisting on calling women bitches

Lightgigantic’s retardation just has no end.
He’s a whirlwind of stupidity, a tsunami of imbecility, a tornado of moronic credulity.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=57756

Watch him grasp for new reasons to continue remaining weak and dimwitted.

This guy is the best thing to happen to Sciforums since Buddha1.
He keeps me coming back over and over and over again.

I hang from his every sentence. I wait patiently for his next post to be filled with mirth.

He’s like the village idiot.
Pathetic, sad, pitiful but still handy to have around when one is bored.

One more nomination for dim-wit.

This guy is running away with the RETARD award…..
We’ll have to make our evaluation standards more stringent.
He’s a monopoly of moron.

I am looking at it in a symbolic fashion. If I take his wording differently (a bit more literally), then it is stupid.

What exactly do you read in this?

I am not saying that I am right and you are wrong. And I do not presuppose it couldn't be the other way around. From my chair it's a matter of interpretation because I have no clue what he "speaks" nor do I care. I am just curious as to what you see when you read that passage?
I think it does work if you look at it in terms of memes, rather than undefined 'energy'.

I would like to admit, at this point, that TimeTraveler has taught me a valuable lesson.

If he, or his fellow retards, sounds, thinks or believes in stupid ways, this does not mean that they are stupid or any less than I am.
We are all equal.
Their spirit, their energy field is just as profound and wise as anyone else’s.
We are all the same, my brothers and sisters.
Selfless, eternal, goodness waiting for God to take us home.

Their stupidity is only superficial and external.
We must not judge them by how they appear or sound or think or act.
They appear to be dim-witted because they’ve tapped into a deeper spiritual vein and project more profound truths of human commonality.
Their energies are cosmic and not contained within their corporeal garments, like ours are.

Thank you Sciforums.

Bless you, my son. *anoints Satyr with codliver oil*

I nominate cool skill for the retard award
Sorry, out of context.
The retard is you.

cool skill definitely earned himself a nomination for RETARD of the month for this gem:
Atheists have yet to prove that God/Jesus does not exist.
From here:

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1142139#post1142139

He proves once more that in their haste to save their fallacy retarded fanatics cannot follow a thought through to its logical end nor can they fully appreciate the absurdity of what they say.

I just can’t wait until the end of the month.

Winner of the WIZARD for the month of September

Dr.Lunatic

After long and careful consideration I declare as winner of the much coveted RETARD Award for the month of September,
drum roll please………:

LightGigantic

Congratulations to all.

Does this mean the new month started?

Nomination for retard of the month: G.W. Bush.

yes, I am aware that he isn't an official poster on this forum, but we all know he has several sockpuppets here.

From his last speech:
It is a struggle for civilisation. We are fighting to maintain the way of life enjoyed by free nations.

How retarded. Unless free nation means, licence to make war. Note that he doesn't say that he desires to bring the way of life enjoyed by free nations to its colonies or the rest of the world.

We face an enemy determined to bring death and suffering into our homes.
This is the most retarded thing I ever heard coming from his mouth. He protests if the 'enemy' uses his strategy. What a nancy boy.

America did not ask for this war
yes you did. You asked the UN, which played hard to get, and then you went along with it anyway. Or did Saddam send you a written invitation?

Dear george,

Long time no see. Could you please come and turn my dictatorship into one of your colonies. It would be such terrible fun. I love to grow a beard again and go into hiding. A beard tickles and that makes me giddy. I'm sure your friends could use Iraq'a oil to make themselves richer. It will be fun for all.

Love forever,

XXX
Saddam.

ps. Don't forget to bomb the children's hospitals!!!

Is that letter genuine? Source?

Is that letter genuine? Source?
source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6337138.stm

Page not found. Surely you didn't just make that letter up, monkey?

sigh...

Enough with the "Bush is evil" and "America can die."

Have your opinions... but it's quite old.

G'night everyone.

Get rid of him then or change your ways, or just shut up. Freedom hater.

Bush made you look like a joke again to the rest of the world.

i nominate sdrenzi for retard of the month for this

I do however find it hard for myself to really view things linearly instead of multidimensionally. All those people were dead long before the planes hit, they died 50 years later of old age, so what if they burn alive or die right now. Hell if everyone were to die right now would it really matter, we're all gone anyways?

Well, at least they had their 15 minutes of fame.

Does this mean the new month started?No.
October nominations begin on the 1st

1st of september?

1st October!
Duh :eek:

A new RETARD has entered the competition.
Adstar
This one has the potential to replace lightgigantic as the most retarded of all.

Listen to this brain:
The only way she will get out of it is if God ends her days on earth (death) before it happens. The rapture happens after the great tribulation. Upon the return of the Messiah Jesus.
The "Rapture"?!!!!
:D :rolleyes:
So little time, so many retards.
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1143622#post1143622

you must be extreamly bored Satyr

how did this wind up in the cesspool?

please consider sdrenzi for that comment

how did this wind up in the cesspool?
goofyfish came back for a few hours the other day.

goofyfish came back for a few hours the other day.
and we all no what that means :rolleyes:

he banned me once.
:D
and then he left a witty quip in my inbox.

when he is about, i toe the line. he is hardcore, but fair.

He better not come back. We would all be banned


WE LOVE YOU GOOFY!

how did this wind up in the cesspool?Reality is, sometimes, too painful to look at for too long. It must be quarantined or defamed with a label “cesspool”.

It must be hidden, glossed over, made benign or censored.

For whomever believes that this world only lacks knowledge or education to become better, or for whomever believes all minds are created equal or who believe a diploma or knowledge is the same as intelligence I say that this is a perfect place to witness and to study human psychology, and how it relates to human reason, and human frailty, and how it relates to reasoning and genetics, and human need.

I weep because of this grave injustice that has been inflicted on you and the rest of mankind.

:(

we dont need an awards ceremony to know who the retards are.

I weep because of this grave injustice that has been inflicted on you and the rest of mankind.

:(It's okay, at least you have proof that you know what you are talking about.

you must be extreamly bored SatyrNot anymore.

I just heard about a dreadful Montréal shooting at some college.

It’s always entertaining to watch retards shooting at retards.

Well well. It seems we have a full confession of one of the nominees:

how do I talk bollocks for example, well that just comes naturally, what can I say :o

he banned me once.
:D
and then he left a witty quip in my inbox.


goofyfish is a he?
anyway, he never banned me but he did give me a severe verbal reprimand.

i've only ever been banned by james

Lord Insane is nominated, by an anonymous admirer for Wizard of October.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1152168#post1152168

His tearing a new one in lightgigantic’s epistemology bull wins him our gratitude, as men of reason, and our admiration, as men of courage.

Let not darkness win over man.
Let man’s mind, focused with courage and wisdom, lead us out of our ignorance.

Lord Insane is nominated, by an anonymous admirer for Wizard of October.

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=1152168#post1152168

His tearing a new one in lightgigantic’s epistemology bull wins him our gratitude, as men of reason, and our admiration, as men of courage.

Let not darkness win over man.
Let man’s mind, focused with courage and wisdom, lead us out of our ignorance.

I concede to that - Lord Insane as Wizard !!!
A new battle between Lightgigantic and Lord Insane happened today -
At the same thread - of course the champion of reason Lord Insane kicked ass !!!
The mind of Lightgigantic is so irrational and darkened by the darkness -
that I actually thought little green men from outer space put his conclusions into his brain - please read the thread !!

Lord Insane actually was trying to help Lightgigantic today !!!!
Trying to shake him up and improve his rhetoric, logical thinking and so on !!!!
Totally in vain - Lord Insane is actually almost too nice - though the poor
Lightgigantic ended up praying on his command !!
Praise the LORD Lightgigantic said - I choose to believe it was LORD Insane he meant !! :p