Source: Xinhuanet (http://news.xinhuanet.com/)
Link: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-08/09/content_1747874.htm
Title: "Rwanda to send troops to Sudan's Darfur this week"
Date: August 9. 2004

Rwandan troops are going to leave for Sudan's war-torn Darfur region this week to intervene and rescue the needy there, a state-run paper reported here Monday.

"We are irritated because people are dying and we have been through this same situation of turmoil," Foreign Minister Charles Muligande was quoted as saying.

The minister said that the world ought to act promptly to see to it that no other genocide [is] carried [out] while other people are looking on.

Source: Xinhuanet/China View (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-08/09/content_1747874.htm)

Er ....

Um ....

That is ... ah--

The situation is apparently such that the UN and African Union have asked Rwanda and Nigeria to send a total of just under 300 troops to Sudan's Darfur region.

I ... okay. Go Rwanda!

Nigeria, we know, is trying to play an active role in any African recovery, but Rwanda--let the world not joke about it. They're ready to send more troops, too. I'm thinking to keep an eye on their UN delegation, as well; they'll have some interesting things to say in the near future, I'm sure.
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• Xinhuanet. "Rwanda to send troops to Sudan's Darfur this week." ChinaView.cn, August 9, 2004. See http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-08/09/content_1747874.htm

there are quite a lot of lies about Sudan giong on, ill post a thread later. and yes oil has got a bit to do with it aswell. and troops is certainly not whjat Rwanda needs however atleast they are not UN troops, like i said ill make a thread later and explain.

The situation in Sudan has to be dealt with of course, but the AU is trying to deal with it. The AU was set up about 2 years ago I believe and they want to deal with these situations alone without western assistance so that Africa can control itself. Also having African troops going into Darfur is much more credible then having American troops wouldn’t you say? I say we should support the Africans this time round; it’s their continent they need to get a grasp on it. There has been too much Western propping up. Now if could only say that for the Middle East!

at least someone is doing something
the only cop in the world is occupied right now, and nobody from the fictitious alliance called NATO, or the debating society aka diplomatic quagmire which is as usual very active, care to do anything

maybe Rwanda is not the most powerful country in Africa but at least they're trying.
and Nigeria... they played "peacekeepers" in Liberia so they have some experience in that.
however i am suspicious of the motives of a very conservative (http://www.hrw.org/press/2002/08/nigeriastoning.htm) Muslim country sending in peacekeepers into a conflict of Muslims vs. Christians. whom are the Nigerians going to protect against whom? the Janjaweed against their black slaves?

Nigeria is not a conservative Muslim country, please don't utter about things you know very little about. Nigeria is a country that is very f***ed up to say the least…so please don’t just post a link and pretend to know what you are talking about.

So, where are the armies of the American Left volunteering to stand up in defense of their own values and the lives of those in a galaxy far, far away who are being murdered?

AWOL.

Who would have thought? http://www.sciforums.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

Tiassa? Why aren't you on a plane at this very moment going to save lives by any means?

Waiting for someone else to defend your valued principles?

Tiassa? Why aren't you on a plane at this very moment going to save lives by any means?

Oh, any number of reasons, from raising a daughter to settling legal issues. As you have proven, G, one can go much farther into their own life than I have in mine without making a significant contribution.

Perhaps it's easier for you to invite people to charge blindly into the abyss, but it doesn't mean you actually have anything useful to say, G.

Here's a hint, boy: Try contributing a useful, positive post once in a while.

Most likely, it won't kill you to do so.

nto a conflict of Muslims vs. Christians. whom are the Nigerians going to protect against whom? the Janjaweed against their black slaves?

Sudan conflict is NOT Christian Vs Muslim, there are hardly any Christians in Sudan! have you been watching CNN again?

tiassa,
Perhaps it's easier for you to invite people to charge blindly into the abyss,...
You already know that people are needlessly dying for want of protection.

That you recognize the danger to yourself, and choose to hide yourself from it -- even as you acknowledge the ongoing slaughter of defense-worthy others, and choose not to act in their defense out of personal fear -- tells us all that we need to know about your philosophical and political preferences.

And calling me the same is no sufficient defense, even though you might imagine it could be.

Oh, any number of reasons, from raising a daughter to settling legal issues.

So, does that mean those who have gone do not have daughters to raise and legal issues to settle?

I understand that being a Mr. Mom is a tough job demanding your every waking moment of attention, but you can't argue you or yours is any different.

(Q)

So, does that mean those who have gone do not have daughters to raise and legal issues to settle?

Actually, it's just my cheap excuse. You know. Taking responsibility for my daughter. And besides, legal issues prevent me from leaving this country and entering certain others; it costs money I don't have to resolve that problem. Hence, it's my cheap excuse. What's yours?

I understand that being a Mr. Mom is a tough job demanding your every waking moment of attention, but you can't argue you or yours is any different.

And I understand that pretending you have a thought of any worth to the world around you is a tough job for you that demands every waking moment of attention, but you can't argue that you are actually being useful or helpful to anyone.

(Q), any one of us faces the question. Our local sleazebag, Mr. G, would prefer wandering around the board messing up every topic he enters with his intentions of merely hating his fellow Sciforums posters. Why you legitimize that behavior is beyond me.

But please do me the kind favor of fucking yourself.

In the meantime, what's your excuse, boy? Why haven't you saved the entire world?

And does that fact of your inadequacy somehow mean you shouldn't post here or shouldn't have an opinion?

Does your gross disrespect in some way signal that you shouldn't be entitled to your opinion?

The answer to both questions is no. Go about your life, continue to go out of your way to be mere static in people's ears, a mere bitch to their eyes. But always remember you have a voice and that you should use it.

And every once in a while, you might want to try using it for something useful. Or, short of that, something decent.

:rolleyes:

Hence, it's my cheap excuse. what's your excuse, boy?

No excuses, I've already served, mom.

...his (Mr. G) intentions of merely hating his fellow Sciforums posters.

Funny, thats not my impression at all. He appears more to expose perturbed hypocrites, quite successfully I might add.

So what is this general trend of folks like you who refuse to have discussions around here?

Oh, that's right. You've already served. Therefore, what, you have the right to sit around and be a general nuisance?

Whatever you say, (Q). Whatever you say.

Yeah, why isn't tiassa on a plane to the Sudan right now? Its blatant hypocrisy. In fact, he aught to fly there himself! And when he is done dispatching the rapists and Arab militias, maybe he can use his super breath to stop a volcano!

The fact that tiassa isn't leaving his daughter to go use his nigh invulnerability and heat vision to save those people is hypocrisy, and proves that genocide is just fine, and no one aught to feel like legitimate powers like the UN or AU aught to intervene. Hail conservatism.

(Note to the dumb: that was sarcasm, geoncide is bad, and tiassa is morraly allowed to think it aught to be stoped by those who can stop it without striking off like superman)

tiassa,
So what is this general trend of folks like you who refuse to have discussions around here?
Um, we're not all like you...and don't have to be?

And that really irritates you.

That says less about us than about you.

Some of us are more efficient at synthesizing available facts. And we can cogently express ourselves in fewer words than most here.

I see that as a net plus.

Um, we're not all like you...and don't have to be?

And that really irritates you.

That says less about us than about you.

Actually, G, it doesn't bother me that people aren't like me. Life would be very boring if you were. However, I'm referring more to the idea of people like you who come to internet discussion boards and merely complain that people are having discussions.

Your presumptuousness speaks volumes about you, G.

Some of us are more efficient at synthesizing available facts. And we can cogently express ourselves in fewer words than most here.

To borrow a phrase from Toad: "Just make sure I'm around when you finally have something to say."

Oh, that's right. You've already served. Therefore, what, you have the right to sit around and be a general nuisance?

Serving my country hasn't afforded me special rights. Like you, I still have the right of hypocrisy, unlike you I choose not to exercise that right.

people like you who come to internet discussion boards and merely complain that people are having discussions

Wouldn't the so-called "complaint" be warranted if discussion was ill-informed?

Wouldn't the so-called "complaint" be warranted if discussion was ill-informed?

Sure, but why introduce that point? I mean, if that was what you were doing, that would be one thing. In the meantime, what's your point with such an irrelevancy?

Like you, I still have the right of hypocrisy, unlike you I choose not to exercise that right.

Ah. In that case, don't let me bother you. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the rest of the flight. Send us a postcard from Kigali.

tiassa tiassa...
you're like a vampire stuck in the corner while sun-rays of reason and objectivity (and the opposite of hypocricy) are approaching ever closer by the rising sun
you can twist and you can turn... you can even twist and turn. and shout too. but you can't escape

that's my cheap excuse
good one,buddy... GOOD ONE!

what the hell is the point of this discussion anyway?
were you trying to say that "someone should send someone"? that "it better be somebody strong"?
i sure hope not! because we all know it's colonialism and racism (http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=2975) we must fight - not the noble Sudanese People (http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2004/07/07_821.html) (read: wild men with guns riding wild horses)

[a note: "noble Sudanese People" is sarcastic, for those who don't get it]

Sudan conflict is NOT Christian Vs Muslim, there are hardly any Christians in Sudan! have you been watching CNN again?
It is Islamists Vs Christian, there are Millions of Christians SLAVES, Maimed in Islamic Sudan, and 2,000,000 Christians are already dead.

Nigeria is not a conservative Muslim country, please don't utter about things you know very little about.
Again you claim to "know"...
Of course it is Islamists VS Christians, don't dare try to evade.
Of course you have an excuse on every Islamists bloodshed.

black slavery still exists
though the masters are not "colonialist whiteys".. but certain Colonialist Arabs

Of course you have an excuse on every Islamists bloodshed.
his excuse is that you, and probably i, are sitting with our fingers corssed, waiting for some Arab-perpetrated massacres so we could complain about them

therefore it is also logical to conclude that we may in fact be supporting those massacres

looks like these massacres are in the interest of "The Zionists" since it "exposes" certain Arabs in a very bad light

therefore it is logical to conclude that "The Zionists" may have some involvement

there are reasons to believe that The Mossad is funding the janjaweed

but wait, if the West will send troops in to quell the violence, woulnd't the Marines and the Desert Rats be fighting the Sayeret Matkal and Mistaaravim?

oh those damn Zionists, the aggressors, the oppressors... Bush Lied. now get him to send in some help, just not Mr. Mom.. he can't legally leave the country because he was probably busted with weed and is awaiting trial or whatever

tiassa:
I'm referring more to the idea of people like you who come to internet discussion boards and merely complain that people are having discussions.
There's precision and then there's accuracy.

My complaint is not with discussion -- which is perfectly fine, within its own limited contexts.

It's with the popular belief that talking about anything is the same as action.
Your presumptuousness speaks volumes about you, G
And your's doesn't?

Liberal Arts major, right?

Estrogenville.

Hey, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Stay at home; save the world.

It's with the popular belief that talking about anything is the same as action.

What say you of your own practice of tilting windmills and pretending you have a point?

And your's doesn't?

Unlike you, I'm occasionally vindicated. Take you, for instance: with nothing left to contribute, you turn to inventing romantic notions that you're fighting some ridiculous popular belief.

Like I said, your presumptuousness speaks volumes about you, G.

Mr. Mom, you begin to sounds more and more like an overgrown version of "Undecided"

In that case, don't let me bother you.

You wouldn't bother me if you were at the very least dormant?

Mr. Mom, you begin to sounds more and more like an overgrown version of "Undecided"


Thanks for the compliment…

You wouldn't bother me if you were at the very least dormant?

See? It wasn't so hard to show your true colors, was it?

so ah, what goes on? are the grunts revolting? is it like..."hey congressman, wanna sign up yer kids to serve?" or is it "...lemme see you walk the walk.'

how boring. what obvious bait. the g, the q, strike!

heh, fact is , society is hierarchical. at the very least, people are called on to play different roles. who would, in their right minds, send a physicist (building the ultimate weapon) to the frontline? i hereby charge with treason, these two jokers.

"hey congressman, wanna sign up yer kids to serve?"
i wonder... has Michael Moore been in the army? national guard? anything?

Mr. Mom, you begin to sounds more and more like an overgrown version of "Undecided"


Thanks for the compliment…
to you it probably is a compliment

i wonder... has Michael Moore been in the army? national guard? anything?

I wonder, why aren’t you in Israel fighting for the IDF mein Friend? Hypocrisy bites…

to you it probably is a compliment

Anyone with a brain…surely, insults only show that we are right…so keep insulting it tickles me so.

tiassa,
...you turn to inventing romantic notions that you're fighting some ridiculous popular belief.
It's telling that you frame your argument in defense of the ridiculous in estrogenic terms.

Sorry, I'm of the House Testosterone.

I'm not like you. Your difficulty relating to me and my world view is not my problem, nor my issue.

It's telling that you frame your argument in defense of the ridiculous in estrogenic terms.

Sorry, I'm of the House Testosterone.

(guffaw!)

Look, just because you rely on dick doesn't necessarily mean you have squat.

Celebrate the pointlessness of your arcane masculinity if you want, G.

Maybe someday, when you get sick of tolerating yourself, you can get around to having a point and joining the rest of us in discussions.

Celebrate the pointlessness of your arcane masculinity...
So, masculinity is something you abhor.

No wonder you prefer squating to standing.

So, masculinity is something you abhor.

Since you pretend to be reasonably intelligent, I won't consider it a question of your inadequate reading comprehension, but rather wonder why the only ideas you can respond to around here are your own to start with.

Makes for a meaningful dialogue, doesn't it, G?

who would, in their right minds, send a physicist (building the ultimate weapon) to the frontline?

They send women to the frontline, don't they? Why not Tiassa then?

They send women to the frontline, don't they? Why not Tiassa then?

Because I have integrity, (Q). What's your excuse?

Commanding Officer:

You there, private, get your head out of your ass and on that frontline, NOW!!!

Tiassa:

Sir, no Sir! Sir, I can't - I have integrity, Sir!

hehe - you kill me, T.

Wow. You have to construct fictitious situations as a basis for your criticisms?

What's wrong, (Q)? Is reality insufficient for your needs?

So ... what's your excuse, (Q)?

Since you pretend to be reasonably intelligent,...
There's only persistant, overt competition between the unreasonably intelligent. You're merely attempting to accuse -- to your own anticipatory advantage -- me of distastefully failing to follow your own particular herding instinct. The pretense is largely your own.
I won't consider it...
Of course not.
...your inadequate reading comprehension,...
If you want me to see what you see in the same cloud, you better point me to something more universally recognizable.
...wonder why the only ideas you can respond to around here are your own to start with.
Maybe I'm more interested in commenting on motivations behind 'conversational' diatribes than engaging in their built-in muddlings.

Inconveniently introduced invitations to self-analysis usually does get in the way of formulaic, verbosic streams of consciousness.

You play to the house. I play against it.

Which is the truer intellectual sport?

Maybe I'm more interested in commenting on motivations behind 'conversational' diatribes.

So start a topic about it. Why go around mucking up other peoples' conversations?

You play to the house. I play against it.

Perhaps because communicating with the audience occurs higher on my list of priorities than yours.

Which the truer intellectual sport?

Hmm ... to take a gander, communication is probably the truer intellectual sport than psychological self-gratification.

I mean, how hard is it for you to invent a target and pretend you can throw the dart to the bulls-eye every time?

Not very: it's the stuff of childhood fantasy.

Six minutes is your idea of reasonable investment in considered introspection of my point of view?

How considerate is that of your own expoused preference for reasoned conversation?

Six minutes is your idea of reasonable investment in considered introspection of my point of view?


Too much time was given imo...