Rosie the lesbian bulldozer nuked chirpy little Elizabeth today on the View. Thank God Rosie is leaving soon. She is a freakshow.:splat:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/video-nuclear-war-erupts-on-the-view/

I can't believe anyone can stand her.:crazy:

Rosie the lesbian bulldozer nuked chirpy little Elizabeth today on the View. Thank God Rosie is leaving soon. She is a freakshow.:splat:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/23/video-nuclear-war-erupts-on-the-view/

I can't believe anyone can stand her.:crazy:

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c6/cetawayo/home.jpg

They are both annoying. The show sucks. Barbara Walters should be tarred-and-feathered.

~String

Agreed. I don't see why anyone cares about this show, or the shallow nincompoops who populate it with their feeble intellects...

Ugh... my otherwise respectible step mother (and... gulp... now retired father) watch the show daily. What's worse, is each weekend when I take them out to dinner, I have to hear about who Merideth is sleeping with, or who Rosie hates, or why Elizabeth is such a nice chinese lady... or whatever nonsense my parents tell me while I'm fighting the gag reflex over a plate of enchiladas and a cool Dos X's.

~String

Well, I had to watch the finale of American Idol tonight with my girlfriend. That was pretty painful, too.

Lemme guess... some McSinger gushed thanks to his/her mom and dad, thanked the lord, then laughed and cried.

Did Rosie make an appearance? That, at least, would have been something.

~String

The winner was some amazon chick, Jordin, who just freaked out and looked like she was going to explode. She's only 17 so maybe that's why she had no composure to thank God. She's supposedly a Christian. I saw no evidence of that. I think the "Christians" learned to ignore God in their songs/comments so they could win. It worked for Carrie Underwood and most of the other winners.:rolleyes:

I don't care about the View. I do care about an alledged American/lesbian moonbat freakshow abomination spewing venom at my president and country.
Rosie should move to Iran with her wife and see how she does there. She loves terrorists so much, maybe she would further train to officially be one.

She's only 17 so maybe that's why she had no composure to thank God. She's supposedly a Christian. I saw no evidence of that.
God was on her side? What did He have against the other contestants?

Most of the winners/top singers are Christians. How devout I don't know.

God was on her side? What did He have against the other contestants?

I think most of the top 12 over the past years have been Christians. At least they claim to be. Katherine McPhee was great until she turned into skank to market her new cd.:(

God was on her side? What did He have against the other contestants?

Note: Especially if the other contestants were also Christian.

I wish Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin could replace Rosie and Elizabeth. They would shut Joy and Baba up so fast their heads would spin.:D

No answer then? Guess not.

I wish Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin could replace Rosie and Elizabeth. They would shut Joy and Baba up so fast their heads would spin.:D


If that happend, the ratings would plummet and the show will be canceled. Republican hate speech has never flurished on National Telecasts. That's why they've been relegated to cable.

So it's hate speech when republicans defend God/America/decency but it's ok when Rosie the freakshow defiles God/Bush/America/our troops on national tv during war:confused:

Ganymede

If that happend, the ratings would plummet and the show will be canceled. Republican hate speech has never flurished on National Telecasts. That's why they've been relegated to cable.

Then why do the Demorats cry so much about the fact that we have the highest rated shows on the net works? and why do the liberal shows seem to tank with out massive funding support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio


Conserveitive Shows.

Talk radio in the United States
In the United States, talk radio is dominated by right-leaning political commentators; according to A.C. Nielsen, the top five programs are those of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Neal Boortz, and Glenn Beck. Others include: Bill O'Reilly, Bill Cunningham, Mark Levin, Melanie Morgan, and Laura Ingraham.

Liberal Shows

Politically liberal talk radio aimed at a national audience has also emerged, although it has resulted in low ratings, and business failure. Air America Radio, a network featuring The Al Franken Show, was founded in 2004; it billed itself as a "progressive alternative" to the conservative talk radio shows. Some prominent examples of liberal talk radio shows currently in national syndication include: The Ed Schultz Show, Alan Colmes, Lionel, Thom Hartmann, Bill Press, and Stephanie Miller. In some markets, local liberal hosts have existed for years, such as Bernie Ward in San Francisco, Jack Ellery in New Jersey and Tampa, Dave Ross in Seattle, and Marc Germain in Los Angeles. A few earlier syndicated programs were hosted by prominent Democrats who were not experienced broadcasters, such as Jim Hightower, Jerry Brown, Mario Cuomo and Alan Dershowitz; these met with limited success, and Air America has been faced with various legal and financial problems.

So Sandy, are you saying that the people who succeed on American Idol do so because they're Christian, and those that fail do so because they aren't?

If that's your model, it doesn't work for the music as whole, of which American Idol is only a very small part...

If that happend, the ratings would plummet and the show will be canceled. Republican hate speech has never flurished on National Telecasts. That's why they've been relegated to cable.

That's a bit too simplistic. I'm certain that, even with some right wink lunatic like Ann Coulter on the View, it would continue to attract viewers. Day-time TV watchers are devourers of drama. The have little else to live for. Thus, the presence of Malkin or Coulter would certainly keep things lively and people watching.

~String

Then why do the Demorats cry so much about the fact that we have the highest rated shows on the net works?

Because there is nothing ELSE!!!

The top 30 (repeat thirty) talkshows are all conservative....

Ganymede



Then why do the Demorats cry so much about the fact that we have the highest rated shows on the net works? and why do the liberal shows seem to tank with out massive funding support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_radio


Conserveitive Shows.

Talk radio in the United States
In the United States, talk radio is dominated by right-leaning political commentators; according to A.C. Nielsen, the top five programs are those of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Neal Boortz, and Glenn Beck. Others include: Bill O'Reilly, Bill Cunningham, Mark Levin, Melanie Morgan, and Laura Ingraham.

Liberal Shows

Politically liberal talk radio aimed at a national audience has also emerged, although it has resulted in low ratings, and business failure. Air America Radio, a network featuring The Al Franken Show, was founded in 2004; it billed itself as a "progressive alternative" to the conservative talk radio shows. Some prominent examples of liberal talk radio shows currently in national syndication include: The Ed Schultz Show, Alan Colmes, Lionel, Thom Hartmann, Bill Press, and Stephanie Miller. In some markets, local liberal hosts have existed for years, such as Bernie Ward in San Francisco, Jack Ellery in New Jersey and Tampa, Dave Ross in Seattle, and Marc Germain in Los Angeles. A few earlier syndicated programs were hosted by prominent Democrats who were not experienced broadcasters, such as Jim Hightower, Jerry Brown, Mario Cuomo and Alan Dershowitz; these met with limited success, and Air America has been faced with various legal and financial problems.

That's because most on the left of the spectrum are interested in information (and have discovered something called FM), not in having someone tell them what to think. Most people I know, if not listening to music, are listening to NPR and BBC.

So Sandy, are you saying that the people who succeed on American Idol do so because they're Christian, and those that fail do so because they aren't?

If that's your model, it doesn't work for the music as whole, of which American Idol is only a very small part...

No. I just mentioned that many of the top 12 have been Christians every year.

Ugh... my otherwise respectible step mother (and... gulp... now retired father) watch the show daily. What's worse, is each weekend when I take them out to dinner, I have to hear about who Merideth is sleeping with, or who Rosie hates, or why Elizabeth is such a nice chinese lady... or whatever nonsense my parents tell me while I'm fighting the gag reflex over a plate of enchiladas and a cool Dos X's.

~String

Same here, I wretch every time I gotta here about crap on Fox News and the same when I gotta hear about The View from Fox News or other sources. I.. seriously.. don't.. freakin'.. care.. what some moron on TV says or thinks as it's just their opinion, yet I gotta get all this crap forced onto me due to all these corporate media monopolies.

I can't understand people's facinations with these frickin' BS shows on all sides. Fox News totally ruined the media by changing the format from news program to talk show program. People wind up watching shows like The View, O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, or any other similar show all over TV hearing nothing but people's political OPINIONS and thinking it's real news. Even worse, they all talk about the same crap just like talk radio. Turn to any station and you'll here the same topic of the day, with very similar wording being said thanks to again, corporate media monopolies telling them what to say. Man, I even got rid of my TV to get away from all that crap yet I still hear it daily. Why do people hate congress? Because they just sit around and bicker non-stop, and that's what we have here on our talk show news programs. I don't like watching C-SPAN congressional videos, why would I wanna waste my time with that crappy talk show news programs too?

Someone please bring back the real news, not this sensationalized, corporate, opinionated, TV drama, debate shows. Hell, you'll learn more just readin' or listening to everyone here on Sciforums debate with each other than the cherry-picked morons they find to debate on those cable news channels.

- N

So Sandy, are you saying that the people who succeed on American Idol do so because they're Christian, and those that fail do so because they aren't?

If that's your model, it doesn't work for the music as whole, of which American Idol is only a very small part...
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No. I just mentioned that many of the top 12 have been Christians every year.

Well, first off, it's because Christianity is the major religion in this country. Second, don't take too much pride in the fact that the top 12 on American freakin' Idol are Christian considering pop music these days suck and other than Kelly Clarkson and that one country chick, the winners on those shows and almost all the finalists have basically disappeared off the face of the earth. ;)

Oh yeah, and third, the show is rigged. Every show is. Most almost anything that makes money is rigged, especially the entertainment industry. American Idol is a good lesson in American democracy, in that voting is just an icon, and rarely has much of an impact against a stacked deck. What sells is what matters. The simple fact that our country is a capitalistic society is all you need to look at to confirm that.

- N

Idol sucks now. It used to be fun to watch. The pathetic contestants this year were boring. Some amazon black chick won. The runner up was a homosexual beat-boxer.:rolleyes:

Most winners haven't disappeared. Fantasia is on Broadway in the Color Purple. Ruben Studdard makes great gospel CDs. The some of the rest of the top 12 seem to be doing better. Clay Aiken is very popular. Jennifer Hudson won a Grammy. Chris Daughtry has a top 10 CD.

Idol sucks now. It used to be fun to watch. The pathetic contestants this year were boring. Some amazon black chick won.

Not some Amazon Black chick! God no!!

Rosie is a freakin lunatic. One of "her people" was caught defacing Elizabeth's pictures in the View studio. Rosie trashed Elizabeth's dressing room and quit today after Elizabeth confronted her. :(

What a freakin loser. :crazy:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/25/report-hasselbecks-photos-defaced-inside-abc-studios/

Well, I had to watch the finale of American Idol tonight with my girlfriend. That was pretty painful, too.

You pussy....

Rosie looks a little ticked off.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/25/rosie-to-leave-the-view/

:eek:

New stories in about her being behind defacing Elizabeth's pics. What a loser.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

I don't care about the View. I do care about an alledged American/lesbian moonbat freakshow abomination spewing venom at my president and country.
Rosie should move to Iran with her wife and see how she does there. She loves terrorists so much, maybe she would further train to officially be one.

The 9/11 commission report seems to agree with Rosie...the 9/11 attacks had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq...

More kool-aid?:rolleyes:


Rosie calls our troops terrorists. She hates Bush/America.

She says Christians are as dangerous as Islamic terrorists.:eek:

She said our troops who were captured "asked for it."

She is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the country.

She said Bush was behind 911.

She said the Iranian seizure of British sailors was a hoax to provide President Bush with an excuse to go to war with Tehran.

She said the World Trade Center was brought down deliberately on 911 for the purpose of eliminating records of government investigations into corporate fraud.

She said we tortured 911 terror mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to get a confession out of him.

There are more. She's a liberal Democrat moonbat.:rolleyes:

Same here, I wretch every time I gotta here about crap on Fox News and the same when I gotta hear about The View from Fox News or other sources. I.. seriously.. don't.. freakin'.. care.. what some moron on TV says or thinks as it's just their opinion, yet I gotta get all this crap forced onto me due to all these corporate media monopolies. - N

Solution? Quit watching!! No one is forcing you to watch. Stop watching.

Now you can stop wretching.

The 9/11 commission report seems to agree with Rosie...the 9/11 attacks had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq...

Correct me if I am wrong, but 9/11 was not a reason for going to war with Iraq. It was a reason not to ignore the mulitple violations of international treaties and UN sanction that Saddam Hussein perpetrated. It was universally held by intellignce community at the time that Saddam either had WMD or was assembling the components. Yes, in the long run this turned out to be a slight exaggeration as no complete WMD's were found. However several componenets that were marked to be destroyed were found in other countries, thus adding to the crimes commited by Iraq.


The war was justified, the handling of the war and post war operations was where as a nation we fell down. We are trying to correct this now. Simply pulling out is not an option. Well it is an option if you wish the area to make Darfur look liked a playground. It is an option if tyou wish to give Al Qaeda, Iran, and Syria foot holds inot Iraq. It is an option if in the not too distant future you would like to hear of yet anout suicide bombing within our borders.

Solution? Quit watching!! No one is forcing you to watch. Stop watching.

Now you can stop wretching.

That's the thing, I don't watch it anymore. I don't even watch TV anymore, period, yet I still here about all this crap non-stop due to corporate media monopolies plugging each other.

- N

Because there is nothing ELSE!!!

The top 30 (repeat thirty) talkshows are all conservative....
The Liberals tried their "Air America" network, nobody was listening. If you want liberal viewpoints, turn on any TV news show or, if you prefer radio, NPR.

Conservative talk radio florishes because conservatives were starved to hear their viewpoints. Every nite on ABC, NBC, and CBS they get the liberal view. It's nice to be able to hear people who agree with you once in a while.

As to the thread topic, I think it's funny that Rosie is running away. Typical liberal, can't stand to have someone stand up to them and present another opinion.

If you want liberal viewpoints, turn on any TV news show or,

Can I get fined if I watch TV while driving?

I refuted the "liberal" media myth long time ago, but explain this: how could be one type of media so dominated by one side and the other type by the other side?

Hint: It is the same side on both type and it ain't liberal...

Most of the media is liberal-biased. ALL the tv networks, BBC, NPR, most of the cable TV channels, most newspapers, and most network radio news stations are liberal. We have a few radio station programs, some of FOX, a few websites, and a few papers. That's it. The rest of it is liberal.

Yet we still won the last 2 elections. Imagine that...

Rumor has it Rosie is joining the WWWF.:D

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s4i19350

So, then, Rosie is our Rush Limbaugh? I think I can live with that...

I think Rosie is beyond Rush's 180. Rush says things that are true. Rosie pulls sh!t out of her @ss. Al Franken tried to be like Rush and O'Reilly. He failed miserably. I don't know who you have on the left that compares to Rush. He is one of a kind.:D

Rush says things that are true.

I am totally not taking that bait.

No bait, just fact. Rush is awesome.:worship:

Yeah, it was awesome the way he made fun of Michael Fox's Parkinsons induced tremors . And the way he said that there was a "Whitehouse dog", and showed a picture of Chelsea Clinton during her thirteen year old ugly duckling stage. The endless stream of logical fallacies he spouts during his show is pretty awesome as well.

The list of what is awesome about Rush is quite extensive.

Fox exaggerated his symptoms for the cameras. Days earlier he looked just fine. Rush calls it like it is. He's not afraid to insult the pc bs crowd.:D

Chelsea Clinton is STILL ugly. Your point is?:rolleyes:

Rush is great. His ratings are amazing. We love him.:worship:

This is a new low, even for someone who consistently scrapes the bottom of the barrel like you. You think it was ok to humiliate a teenaged girl on television just because you don't like her father? That is vile, and any decent person would be ashamed.

"Anyone who knows the disease well would regard his movement as classic severe Parkinson's disease," said Elaine Richman, a neuroscientist in Baltimore who co-wrote "Parkinson's Disease and the Family." "Any other interpretation is misinformed."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

Michael J. Fox was not exaggerating his symptoms. During his attempts to work, he struggled to control them; for the appearances when he was advocating for continued funding for stem cell research, he just relaxed and let his tremors show. But I'm sure you'll favor Rush's interpretation over that of a neuroscientist.

Fox exaggerated his symptoms for the cameras.:

yeah, because you can fake Parkinson's. Have you SEEN Muhammad Ali?

My point is that Rush says and does dumb stuff and Rosie says and does dumb stuff. They both eventually regret it. They both are being used as poster children for two extreme ends of our political system. But apparently my point was lost- I had a tad more faith that you would be like most conservatives and accept that Rush can be a misogynistic idiot.

Fox is a liberal stooge. He doesn't fool anyone when he exaggerates and doesn't take his meds. He ADMITTED he didn't take his meds so people could see his symptoms.:rolleyes:

Do I feel sorry for Fox? Of course. Do I support exaggerated claims/videos to make his liberal point for using dead babies to "cure" his illness? Hell no.:mad:

Fox is a liberal stooge. He doesn't fool anyone when he exaggerates and doesn't take his meds. He ADMITTED he didn't take his meds so people could see his symptoms.:rolleyes:

Do I feel sorry for Fox? Of course. Do I support exaggerated claims/videos to make his liberal point for using dead babies to "cure" his illness? Hell no.:mad:

.... I'd like to see you cite a source where Michael Fox ever said this (you cannot because he did not). His Parkinson's meds actually make his tremors even more severe!

Liberal stooge? So, trying to cure severe neurological disorders is now part of the liberal agenda? Using cast off embryos that would otherwise be disposed of as medical waste is "using dead babies"?

...

He admitted it in his book. Read the damn book. And quit the vile, perverse personal attacks. You're not funny.:mad:

He admitted to not taking medication prior to his appearance before the senate in 1998. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_J._Fox
That is eight years prior to the appearances where Limbaugh characterized him as "faking it". Years of taking Sinemet can result in dyskinesia: Tardive dyskinesia is characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing of the lips, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Impaired movements of the fingers may appear as though the patient is playing an invisible guitar or piano. Patients with Parkinson's disease have difficulty moving, while patients with tardive dyskinesia have difficulty not moving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskinesia

Damn these liberals and their exaggerated severe chronic neurological disorders!

Fox does this everytime he wants to make a point. Duh...:rolleyes:

If you stop taking your medications that control the effects of Parkinson's, for the purpose of a political add, you are faking it. The add, the disease, the cure, there are no fetal stem cell treatments that are viable and won't be for at least 20 years, but Adult Stem Cells have lead to the treatment of 70 diseases, so were would the best place seem to be to do the research? to me it would be were the results have been achieved,

http://www.fumento.com/weblog/archives/stem_cells/
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Embryonic stem cells to the rescue! But when?
By Michael Fumento
Christopher Reeve supported ESC research because he thought it would help him, not future generations. Likewise for such influential advocates as Michael J. Fox and Michael Kinsley. But while there are over 70 treatments or cures with adult stem cells and about 1,300 clinical trials there has yet to be a single clinical trial with ESCs and none are planned for the near future. Much more common are claims by people like USC's Hans Keirstead, who says he'll begin clinical trials "next year." It must be true because he's been saying it since 2002. ESC lobbyists have their excuses lined up as to why progress is so slow but they don't wash. ESCs are simply incredibly difficult to work with . Says who? How about James Thomson, whose lab initiated the first human ESC cell line back in 1998. He also puts the kibosh on claims that all the wonderful ESC miracles are just ten years away. He uses the term "decades," meaning 20 years minimum and a maximum of . . . ? Read about it in my article in the May issue of The American Spectator.

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Stem Cell Breakthroughs and Coverups
By Michael Fumento
Adult stem cells cure and treat more 70 diseases and are involved in almost 1,300 human clinical trials. Scientists also keep discovering that adult stem cells are capable of creating a wider variety of mature cells. Perhaps the most promising of these was announced in the January issue of Nature Biotechnology.

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Adult Stem Cells Repair a Human Spinal Cord Injury?
By Michael Fumento
Some months ago Korean researchers claimed to have allowed a paraplegic of 19 years, a 37-year-old woman, to walk again with a treatment that included an injection of umbilical cord stem cells into the injured area. At first I welcomed this development with open arms, then since nothing was appearing in a peer-reviewed medical journal I became skeptical. Well, it's appeared. Specifically, it's in the latest issue (Sept. 2005) of Cytotherapy. "The patient could move her hips and feel her hip skin on day 15 after transplantation," wrote the researchers. "On day 25 after transplantation her feet responded to stimulation. On post operative day (POD) 7, motor activity was noticed and improved gradually in her lumbar paravertebral and hip muscles." She could soon maintain an upright position by herself. "41 days after [stem cell] transplantation" testing "also showed regeneration of the spinal cord at the injured site" and below it.

At a press conference, the woman demonstrated that she could walk with the help of a walking frame.

My thanks to Wesley J. Smith for bringing this to my attention, and he cautiously notes "one patient" doesn't equal "treatment." I also remain a bit skeptical because after 19 years, no matter how much physical therapy you get, your muscles atrophy to mush. A perfect repair of the spine can't overcome this although with enough time and effort a person could get her muscles back in shape. But we know that similar results in spinal repair have come from animal experiments. Whatever happens in this case, adult stem cells will eventually allow those with paralysis to walk again.

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He did not stop taking his medications for a political ad. Let's look at the primary symptoms of Parkinson's: It is characterized by muscle rigidity, tremor, a slowing of physical movement (bradykinesia) and, in extreme cases, a loss of physical movement (akinesia).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease

Now dyskinesia again: Tardive dyskinesia is characterized by repetitive, involuntary, purposeless movements. Features of the disorder may include grimacing, tongue protrusion, lip smacking, puckering and pursing of the lips, and rapid eye blinking. Rapid movements of the arms, legs, and trunk may also occur. Impaired movements of the fingers may appear as though the patient is playing an invisible guitar or piano. Patients with Parkinson's disease have difficulty moving, while patients with tardive dyskinesia have difficulty not moving.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskinesia

The ad in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9WB_PXjTBo

So, which of you Parkinson's experts can step up and say which it was causing his movement. Was it pure Parkinson's, without medication, or dyskinesia, caused by taking Sinemet for years in order to control his Parkinson's symptoms?

I'd say that where the money should be spent on stem cell research should be determined by the experts in the field. But I suppose the American Taliban can overrule the experts. Then research will go forward in other countries, and we will be left behind, science research (and medical progress) hampered by interference by religious dogmatists.

Fox embellishes for his ads. He admits it.

Adult stem cell research is fine. Not embryonic.

Fox embellishes for his ads. He admits it.

Adult stem cell research is fine. Not embryonic.

He has not admitted any such thing. I have shown this is not true, but you persist in asserting it as fact.

Yes, it is much better that the excess embryos from in vitro fertilization be disposed of as medical waste, rather than be used for research into combating debilitating and fatal diseases.

For those of you who worship Reagan, how do you feel about Nancy advocating for embryonic stem cell research?
Former US First Lady Nancy Reagan has urged the Bush administration to support embryonic stem cell research.

Mrs Reagan said too much time had been wasted already discussing the issue.

She is said to believe the research could lead to a cure for Alzheimer's disease, which has afflicted her husband, Ronald Reagan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3700015.stm

I should think it would cause a migraine inducing case of cognitive dissonance.

Fox admits it. I'm done discussing him.

Nancy has adopted a cause. It makes her feel better to think there is a chance someone could suffer less than her husband. Impossible. Embryonic stemcell research will lead to the cure for nothing. Adult stemcell research, maybe.

Fox admits it. I'm done discussing him.

I'm glad, because persisting in asserting this, when he in fact has admitted no such thing, amounts to lying. I've shown what he said about not taking his medication prior to testifying before a senate committee in 1998; this is not admitting that he took too little (or too much) Sinemet before making the advertisement in question. Parkinson's is a progressive illness, and dyskinesia takes years to manifest itself.

But don't let "facts" and "evidence" get in your way - you have an ideology!

Not that you have any credibility to lose; you've admitted that you think it is fine that Limbaugh went after a thirteen year old girl on national television because you don't like her father and mother!

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Shes a valley girl
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Like, oh my god! (valley girl)
Like - totally (valley girl)
Encino is like so bitchen (valley girl)
Theres like the galleria (valley girl)
And like all these like really great shoe stores
I love going into like clothing stores and stuff
I like buy the neatest mini-skirts and stuff
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Super-super nice...
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On ventura, there she goes
She just bought some bitchen clothes
Tosses her head n flips her hair
She got a whole bunch of nothin in there

If you stop taking your medications that control the effects of Parkinson's, for the purpose of a political add, you are faking it.

One could also say that taking medication to mask the true effects of the disease is 'faking it'.

It sound like Michel J. Fox knows exactly what he was doing, he was playing with his medications for shock effect, here is his own admissions to the fact that he under- medicated to make a point, and in the add he didn't make it clear what his medication state was, he just went out of his way to back a non existent treatment program, that hasn't shown any potential for results, that uses FSCT, and ignores the fact that there are positive ASC treatment already in use, and more on line for FDC approval, 70 ASC treatments are currently in use today, 0 FSCT treatments, and none even ready for trial with inn the next decade.



http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2006/10/quote_of_the_da_5.html

I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication. It seemed to me that this occasion demanded that my testimony about the effects of the disease, and the urgency we as a community were feeling, be seen as well as heard. For people who had never observed me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

For many people with Parkinson's, managing their disease is a full-time job; it is a constant balancing act. Too little medicine causes tremors and stiffness, too much medicine produces uncontrollable movement and slurring, and far too often Parkinson's patients wait and wait (as I am right now) for their medicines to kick in.

It sound like Michel J. Fox knows exactly what he was doing, he was playing with his medications for shock effect, here is his own admissions to the fact that he under- medicated to make a point, and in the add he didn't make it clear what his medication state was, he just went out of his way to back a non existent treatment program, that hasn't shown any potential for results, that uses FSCT, and ignores the fact that there are prohibitive ASC treatment already in use, and more on line for FDC approval, 70 ASC treatments are currently in use today, 0 FSCT treatments, and none even ready for trial with inn the next decade.



http://ezraklein.typepad.com/blog/2006/10/quote_of_the_da_5.html

me in this kind of shape, the transformation must have been startling.

In short, he did not take his medication to show to the committe just what he and other sufferers have to cope and deal with on a daily basis. He did not have to work at getting a 'shock effect'. He just showed himself in his natural state (eg without medication).

Thank you BR, you just proved why he had to do what he did.

Fox addressed the controversy on Tuesday.

"I'm kind of lucky right now. It's ironic, given some of the things that have been said in the last couple of days, that my pills are working really well right now," he said.

He may have been honest in front of the congressional committee, but he was far from honest in the add, he didn't make one mention of his state of medication, and by not being forth coming about his state of medication, be it over medicated or under medicated, for making a political point he deserves all the scrutiny that he came under, and he admits to doing both, under medicating for one point and over medicating for another, that make him a liar all around,

Adult stem cells produce treatment breakthroughs - The Washington ...
Some say these advancements show that adult stem cells and other types of body cells hold more promise for medical treatments then do human embryonic stem ...
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031228-114541-5034r.htm
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Family Research Council: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 "IS04J01"
While the potency and success of adult stem cell treatments are becoming evident ... neural stem cells and differentiated dopaminergic neurons for Parkinson ...
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS04J01
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Beneficiary of Adult Stem Cell Treatment for Parkinson's Disease ...
Treated by his own adult stem cells, Parkinson's disease victim Dennis Turner testifies of huge gains made by the treatment to a US Senate committee.
http://www.leaderu.com/science/stemcelltestimony_turner.html
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http://www.cellmedicine.com/

Stem Cell Therapy History

Cord blood stem cell therapy is in the early stages. Umbilical cord stem cells have been used world-wide since 1988. They have typically been used to restore the immune system of patients undergoing myeloablative chemotherapy. All patients will be required to understand and sign an informed consent form.

Now, why is it your place OR the family research council's (which is a political groups) place to judge what scientists should be able to research? We are not growing viable babies- an embryo is NOT viable until it is put into a uterus. Why shouldn't I be able to donate my eggs (every month one goes down the toilet) to a viable source of scientific study?

This stem-cell fight is idiotic in my opinion. We are not growing babies to steal body parts, we are creating EMBRYOS in petri dishes. These EMBRYOS will never be viable. It's just ridiculous... there are better things to fight.

For those of you who worship Reagan, how do you feel about Nancy advocating for embryonic stem cell research?

I should think it would cause a migraine inducing case of cognitive dissonance.
There's your mistake right there. We don't worship him. We respect him, we hold him in a position of high esteem. But we do not believe he was a god.

We do not turn off our brains and follow in lock step the opinions of those we hold in high esteem.

PS You know, Bush was the first president to approve any federal funding for stem cell research. He simply limited the research to existing stem cell lines. Now if those lines are insufficient, I'm sure some compromise could be worked out to bring more lines into the deal. Of course, then you'd lose the issue, so we can't do that.
Now, why is it your place OR the family research council's (which is a political groups) place to judge what scientists should be able to research? We are not growing viable babies- an embryo is NOT viable until it is put into a uterus. Why shouldn't I be able to donate my eggs (every month one goes down the toilet) to a viable source of scientific study?

There is no ban on stem cell research. Simply a limitation regarding federal funding for new stem cell lines.

]There is no ban on stem cell research. Simply a limitation regarding federal funding for new stem cell lines.

I do not recall saying that there was a ban on stem cell research. I am fully aware that stem cell research is completely legal in the United States, although some people would appreciate it being illegal.

I did say, however, that scientists are being preventing from doing stem cell research. They are prevented from doing it because they must have money in order to research. What other forms of research funding have we actually banned in this country due to religious views? Private corporations rarely, if ever, fund early research into anything. It is seen as the governments job to fund research until it can be monetarily viable for a corporation to invest in. This is a very common practice and I would be surprised if you were ignorant to it.

I don't oppose embryonic stemcell research because of my religion. I just think it's wrong. I do support it on adult cells.

Bush gave the first ok for fed funds. But it will NEVER be enough for the whiney liberals. They need a cause. Something to cry about. And something more to hate him for:rolleyes:

I don't oppose embryonic stemcell research because of my religion. I just think it's wrong. I do support it on adult cells.
Why do you oppose abortion then? Homosexuality?

Bush gave the first ok for fed funds. But it will NEVER be enough for the whiney liberals.
He put heavy restrictions on the use of those funds because of his religious views.

They need a cause. Something to cry about. And something more to hate him for:rolleyes:
I don't hate Bush- do you?
I recall you "crying" about abortions being legal earlier... so, you can find a "cause" to "cry about" but I cannot?

Because homosexuality is disgusting and abortion is barbaric. It has nothing to do with religion even though God does say homos will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven and that homos are an abomination. He also weeps when people kill babies.

I don't cry about baby-killing being legal. It is sad and disgusting though.

Because homosexuality is disgusting and abortion is barbaric. It has nothing to do with religion even though God does say homos will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven and that homos are an abomination. He also weeps when people kill babies.

I don't cry about baby-killing being legal. It is sad and disgusting though.

Does your god weep when he kills 17,000 children everyday?

Sandy,

I believe stem cell research will be able to find better treatments for people with serious chronic illnesses like type 1 diabetes, multiple sclerosis, lupus, and other severe diseases that can lead to death. I believe that by denying funding for a specific type of research you are purposefully snubbing people who are living with and dying from horrific illnesses. The difference is that I am focusing on the people who already have personhood whereas you are focusing on embryo's and fetuses that, in my opinion, just have the potential for personhood.

Because homosexuality is disgusting and abortion is barbaric. It has nothing to do with religion even though God does say homos will not inherit the kingdom of Heaven and that homos are an abomination. He also weeps when people kill babies.

It's amazing how much sandy knows about her god. He laughs, he cries, and sandy is right there with him. Does your god actually call them homos, sandy?

Does your god actually call them homos, sandy?

Of course he does... Sandy says so.

Back on topic... is it wrong of me to want ALL the women of the View to be drawn and quartered?

~String

Back on topic... is it wrong of me to want ALL the women of the View to be drawn and quartered?

~String

Yes, but only on the moral ground that nobody should be killed on a whim.

Quote Sandy

Rosie calls our troops terrorists. She hates Bush/America.

She says Christians are as dangerous as Islamic terrorists.

She said our troops who were captured "asked for it."

She is EVERYTHING that is wrong with the country.

She said Bush was behind 911.

She said the Iranian seizure of British sailors was a hoax to provide President Bush with an excuse to go to war with Tehran.

She said the World Trade Center was brought down deliberately on 911 for the purpose of eliminating records of government investigations into corporate fraud.

She said we tortured 911 terror mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to get a confession out of him.

There are more. She's a liberal Democrat moonbat.

Heh, heh. You sure are cute. Whether the above is bullshit or not at least she is rattling the cage! And THAT is healthy. In spite of your Moonbat bulldyke accusations, she also has a healthy dose of brain cells, so she aint spitting out statements willy nilly, she checks her info pretty keenly. As you should.

Do you agree with detention without trail?

Of course he does... Sandy says so.

Back on topic... is it wrong of me to want ALL the women of the View to be drawn and quartered?

~String

Lisa Ling is probably one of the most awesome reporters of our time. As is Barbara Walters. So, we cannot judge all of them

Exploradora

I believe stem cell research will be able to find better treatments for people with serious chronic illnesses like type 1 diabetes, multiple sclerosis, lupus, and other severe diseases that can lead to death. I believe that by denying funding for a specific type of research you are purposefully snubbing people who are living with and dying from horrific illnesses. The difference is that I am focusing on the people who already have personhood whereas you are focusing on embryo's and fetuses that, in my opinion, just have the potential for personhood.

Yes adult stem cell research, do a little Goggling, you can find 70 treatment that were developed from Adult Stem Cells, and a bunch of trials that are in progress, but what you won't find is any treatment that is derived from Fetal Stem Cell research, the nearest trials are still decades away, so we are kill embryos for what purpose? do the search show were FSCT is being used, in the real world, show were there are even trials that are on going to approve FSCT for use in the health care system.

Yes adult stem cell research, do a little Goggling, you can find 70 treatment that ere developed from Adult Stem Cells, and a bunch of trials that are in progress, but what you won't find is any treatment that is derived from Fetal Stem Cell research, the nearest trials are still decades away, so we are kill embryos for what purpose? do the search show were FSCT is being used, in the real world, show were there are even trials that are on going to approve FSCT for use in the health care system.

We are to let scientists and the doctors to decide what techniques are worth researching for illnesses and keep our noses and politicians noses out of it.

We have been using adult stem cells much longer than embryonic stem cells. It is a much simpler process to remove bone marrow than to create embryonic stem cells. However most scientists and doctors would tell you that there are things embryonic stem cells can do that adult stem cells cannot.

These are NOT viable babies. They would need to be placed in a uterus and have a lot of luck to be viable babies. My body gets rid of an egg every month. While in my body that egg has more potential personhood than a zygote or embryo in a test tube.

All you religious nuts are going to hell, each time you've jerked off or came, killing millions of potential babies. Tsk tsk, shoulda been celibate priests.

- N

Now Rosie and her fans say "Fire Elizabeth."

But 61% polled don't like Rosie so wethinks the anti-Republican thing will fail.:D

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/30/rosie-fans-launch-petition-fire-elisabeth-hasselbeck/

Exploradora

These are NOT viable babies. They would need to be placed in a uterus and have a lot of luck to be viable babies. My body gets rid of an egg every month. While in my body that egg has more potential personhood than a zygote or embryo in a test tube.

Tell that to the children who come to this world through in vitro fertilization process, and the Families that want their own children so badly that they spend the money and effort to do this.

Tell that to the children who come to this world through in vitro fertilization process, and the Families that want their own children so badly that they spend the money and effort to do this.

Yes- we take the fertilized eggs and insert them into a womens uterus. Then we throw away the left overs, or leave them in freezers until they are no longer viable.

Did I say anything to the contrary? I said that an egg within my uterus has more potential life than an embryo in a dish. Why do I say this? Because the egg is in an environment conducive to it's survival- all it needs is some pesky little sperm to start the process of life. Maybe I should purposefully have sex with random individuals so I don't waist my eggs...

Without the intervention of placing the fertilized embryo into a womens uterus there is no potential for life. We cannot grow people in artificial environments, duh! Even when we do in vitro fertilization we have a lot of embryos spontaneously abort in the process.

I have the feeling you did not read my entire response before responding...

A special tribute to Rosie:

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/05/31/video-rosies-greatest-hits/

Rosie "I paint toy soldiers red and glue them to wood to mourn."

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/06/04/rosie-i-paint-toy-soldiers-red-and-glue-them-to-wood-to-mourn/

I wonder if she does the same for Americans killed by CRIMINAL ILLEGAL aliens. Nah, I didn't think so.:(

Now Rosie says she wants to host "The Price is Right." While I dread seeing/hearing about her on tv, at least she may not be spewing her venon against America. :(

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070620/D8PSH7RG0.html

Now Rosie says she wants to host "The Price is Right." While I dread seeing/hearing about her on tv, at least she may not be spewing her venon against America. :(

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070620/D8PSH7RG0.html


I heard that. Good for her. Is she going to berate contestants about their political beliefs and spout "don't fear the terrorists" after each episode like Barker did the spaying and neutering thing.

~String

Yes. And she will only let homosexuals, terrorists, and criminal aliens win the big prizes.:rolleyes:

As a gay man, I'm okay with the "homosexual" part. Though, lets get real, Sandy, she really doesn't have a say as to who gets to be a contestant. It's always just some random person who's name gets called and gets to run, dangerously, down the stairs. Unless the name "Akmed" and "Mohammed" gets chosen the most.

~String

It was a joke string. To reflect on her choices/preferences.;)

As was my response, Sandy. (as evidenced from the muslim jab at the end)

~String

Rosie posted a picture of her young adopted daughter on the net wearing bullets.:confused:

When will people quit using their children for political statements? :(

http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/06/26/a-picture-says-a-thousand-posts

Of course the Taliban straps bombs on six-year-olds. But only because they have to. :mad:

Huh?

Who does this to their kids? Only terrorists and child abusers. :mad:

This kid, Vivi O'Donnell, looks like she's in training for jihad. I think it's a very serious form of child abuse.

Who does this to their kids? Only terrorists and child abusers. :mad:

This kid, Vivi O'Donnell, looks like she's in training for jihad. I think it's a very serious form of child abuse.

Then my parents are in a heap of trouble. My brothers and sister have been hunting since kindergarten.