hello ppl ;] ...i have done some search on net for audio or video recording of ronald regan speech on aliens. basicly whatever he said about aliens... i need this audio on my school project but so far i was unable to find any quality data. just some low quality audio on www.propagandamatrix.com ...if anyone know anything about this or can direct me some way where i can find it it would be really helpful to me :] ...thanks in advance

the audio i am searching for is from this sessions:

In 1985, in December, while addressing high-school students in Fallstan, Maryland, President Reagan recalled his recent conversation with Gorbachcv. Reagan said, "I couldn't help but say to [Gorbachev] how easy his task and mine might be if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences and find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on this Earth.

Again, in September, 1987, in a speech before the entire UN General Assembly, Reagan said, "Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize the common bond that unites all humanity. How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask you, is not an alien threat already among us?"

hello ppl ;] ...i have done some search on net for audio or video recording of ronald regan speech on aliens. basicly whatever he said about aliens... i need this audio on my school project but so far i was unable to find any quality data. just some low quality audio on www.propagandamatrix.com ...if anyone know anything about this or can direct me some way where i can find it it would be really helpful to me :] ...thanks in advance

the audio i am searching for is from this sessions:

In 1985, in December, while addressing high-school students in Fallstan, Maryland, President Reagan recalled his recent conversation with Gorbachcv. Reagan said, "I couldn't help but say to [Gorbachev] how easy his task and mine might be if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences and find out once and for all that we really are all human beings here on this Earth.

Again, in September, 1987, in a speech before the entire UN General Assembly, Reagan said, "Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize the common bond that unites all humanity. How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask you, is not an alien threat already among us?"

The first thing I would do is go to: http://www.americanpresidents.org/presidents/president.asp?PresidentNumber=39

Now, Reagan actually said that statement several times, "if there was some outside alien threat - we'd unite".

Trying to pin down the actual audio of it might be difficult, so you might just have to find the text of it and do an impersonation of Reagan lol.. j/k

Hope you find it.. :D

so after few days of searching a finaly found it - that audio recording ...it was in that ufo documentary Out of the Blue. the whole video sequence of his speech about aliens before UN assebly is there tho the video commenting guy talks over it a bit and there is some background music [hes got some drama-cliché voice there... would be good actor in one of the spielbergs films. lol] ... but still better than nothing. ta least i am advancing :]

anyways thatnks for help. i checked that site... pretty good info there ;]

...and still searching for that speech from high school Fallstan. i guess somehow that would be harder to find.

I guess in the absence of aliens Muslims will have to suffice. ;)

Dee Cee

And yet I ask you, is not an alien threat already among us?Was he talking about AIDS or something?

He's talking about imigrants from Mexico. ;)

Well, in that case, sure there was an alient threat. Americans were certainly threatened with getting their houses cleaned and chores done for cheap....!

silas. he was talking about the threat of war... not about AIDS or mexico refugees. no offtopic pls...

i need this for audio puposes... i am woking with sound [editing, making sounds and so...] .dont need it to prove the existence of aliens i need it just as music sample ;]]

Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize the common bond that unites all humanity. How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask you, is not an alien threat already among us?He's talking about an outside, universal threat - universal to the whole world, and something that would unite all nations in battle against it and to forget their little differences. He clearly can't be claiming an actual UFO threat while talking to the United Nations. It's 1987, so it's most likely that the "alien threat... amongst us" he refers to must be AIDS - despite the fact that his administration was notorious for having done little or nothing for its sufferers in America because, by and large, they were gay.

If you have further extracts from that speech which show that I am incorrect, please do post them, or a link.

silas. well from what i gathered Regan was quite interested in UFO phenomenon... there are several articles on that matter on net. and he was also a good friend with S.Spielberg which speaks for itself ;] ...UFOs are Spielbergs life obssesion.

I saw a video recording of his speech speech before UN here is that speech excerpt... "Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize the common bond that unites all humanity. How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet I ask you, is not an alien threat already among us?" and it continues "What could be more alien to thee untied aspirations of our people than war and the threat of war..."

He wasn't saying that there were aliens among us. Regan was stating that the WAR is not aligned with humanity's GOALS as a community. He's using alien as a adjective, not a noun.

Alien - Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed

not

Alien - A creature from outer space

Cadet, don't let them fool you. They know what he meant, but are trying to debunk it.

Don't WASTE YOU'RE TIME. You are right, and they know it. They are just pretending what he said had anything to do with AIDS. On here, they live to destroy any alien or UFO talk.

Just don't take them seriously :)

"I’ve often wondered...what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer - a power from outer space, from another planet. Wouldn’t we all of a sudden find that we didn’t have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings, citizens of the world, and wouldn’t we come together to fight that particular threat."

Reagan, talking about AIDS. :eek:

(From = http://www.presidentialufo.com/reagan_ufo_story.htm)

He wasn't saying that there were aliens among us. Regan was stating that the WAR is not aligned with humanity's GOALS as a community. He's using alien as a adjective, not a noun.

Alien - Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed

not

Alien - A creature from outer space

Yes, you're more correct than those saying he was talking about AIDS or Illegal Immigration.

It does bring a good question up, that if alien intelligence evidence is top-secret, maybe Reagan was trying to tell us something. At this point were only left with conjecture about it though.

Essentially, Reagan was making a great point. It speaks to the great vision he had. Forget the little stuff, focus on the main objective. The bigger purpose. Why are we fighting, when, who knows? We may have to fight an alien civilization. Then, how would our little differences look? :)

Yes, yes, sorry, I totally understand now. Of course the answer to the conundrum is Ronald Reagan's speech didn't actually make any sense. He's talking to the United Nations, to friend and foe alike, and he says, "We'd unite if we had an outside threat. So let's band together as one people and fight the outside threat of...... War!"

:rolleyes:

Yes, yes, sorry, I totally understand now. Of course the answer to the conundrum is Ronald Reagan's speech didn't actually make any sense. He's talking to the United Nations, to friend and foe alike, and he says, "We'd unite if we had an outside threat. So let's band together as one people and fight the outside threat of...... War!"

:rolleyes:

Silas, perhaps you could put you're fanatical debunkery attempts to the side for a second.. Okay? Just try it. Because, the key quote you seem to have missed....

"a power from outer space, from another planet".

More to the point, it's not what he must have been saying.

HE ASKED THEM, WHAT IF EXTRATERRESTRIALS WERE A THREAT TO US? WHAT WOULD BECOME OF OUR MINOR DIFFERENCES AT THAT POINT?

IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GAY PEOPLE OR AIDS.

btimsah,

You seemed to have missed the "what if" he's speaking in hypotheticals.

btimsah,

You seemed to have missed the "what if" he's speaking in hypotheticals.


No, he said what Reagan said did not make any sense. Because he wanted to remove any "extraterrestrial" reference too it. So he created the hypotheticals, in an effort to do just that.

What he said made sense, was appropriote and simple to understand. There's no need for what-if's or hypotheticals. :)

I saw a video recording of his speech speech before UN here is that speech excerpt... "Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize the common bond that unites all humanity. How quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. "


its sad that that is really true,we always need a fight,the more different the object of fear and hate the better.

For Christ's sake, lets get sensible here. This was the most important polititian in the world. How likely is it that he would unveil all the UFO secrets of the United States in front of the United Nations?

For Christ's sake, lets get sensible here. This was the most important polititian in the world. How likely is it that he would unveil all the UFO secrets of the United States in front of the United Nations?

I didnt say he did that. Just that he posed the question to the worlds. I do think he was relaying this BECAUSE of his knowlege of ETI/UFO. Thats just my personal opinion based on the amount of evidence that ETI evidence is top-secret.

If you wanna talk about sensible, I would say it's COMPLETELY un-sensible to think he was talking about AIDS in any of those speeches.

Leaving fanatical skeptiscm behind, it's a great question to ask. What did Reagan know about ETI, if anything? Why would he say this, if he knew nothing? Would he have said it? Etc, etc.

What did Reagan know about ETI, if anything? Why would he say this, if he knew nothing? Would he have said it? Etc, etc. Erm, not to be too obvious, but I think it's not unlikely that he got his "knowledge" of ETI from the movies.

My comment about AIDS was a reasonable deduction based on an incomplete knowledge of the whole speech and given the concerns of the period. I have already stated that I was wrong, why are you going on about it?

Right, I've gone back over Tim's recent posts and I now see where the misunderstanding arises.

First of all, I wasn't actually debunking anything. When Reagan said "What if there were an external alien threat?" he clearly wanted to evoke a literal alien threat, as a metaphor. Then when he said, "But isn't there an actual universal threat?" I thought he was talking about AIDS, but he was apparently talking about war. Obviously if he was really talking about aliens at this point, they'd have just gotten him off the podium and into a straitjacket! I then said:
Yes, yes, sorry, I totally understand now. Of course the answer to the conundrum is Ronald Reagan's speech didn't actually make any sense. He's talking to the United Nations, to friend and foe alike, and he says, "We'd unite if we had an outside threat. So let's band together as one people and fight the outside threat of...... War!"

:rolleyes:This was not me disbelieving or debunking. Reagan saying "What if there were a universal threat?" and then saying that the universal threat is war - doesn't make any sense. But what I meant was not that it didn't make sense for Reagan to say that, I meant that Reagan said that and it didn't make any sense!
Silas, perhaps you could put you're fanatical debunkery attempts to the side for a second.. Okay? Just try it. Because, the key quote you seem to have missed....I come in here and express my views that those things without evidence do not exist. I do it because I enjoy forming arguments in my head and then typing them into the screen. I'm not a "fanatical" debunker - I'm not a fanatical anything. I simply express my opinions, as everybody here is entitled to do.


No, he said what Reagan said did not make any sense. Because he wanted to remove any "extraterrestrial" reference too it. So he created the hypotheticals, in an effort to do just that.

What he said made sense, was appropriote and simple to understand. There's no need for what-if's or hypotheticals. :)
I think you're making up some weird argument of your own here. First of all, I wasn't actually denying anything that Reagan said. Secondly you're dangerously close to implying that Reagan meant the following: "Imagine the world was under threat from aliens, we would put aside our differences and unite to defeat the common foe. But in fact the world is under threat from aliens! Watch the skies! Watch the skies!"

No, in fact what he did was use alien attack (something that is easy to understand, since it has formed the basis of a great deal of entertainment throughout the last century - despite btimsah's fantasies that the phrase "alien threat" in a speech means that Reagan must have seen secret files about aliens) as a metaphor for something that would unite the world, and then said that indeed there is a threat (a real one, not a hypothetical alien one) so the world should unite. But apparently the universal threat he was talking about was War itself. It is this that made no sense to me. How can the whole world unite to eliminate war? You have to eliminate war first in order to unite the world, because if war exists, clearly the world is not united yet!

President Reagan said this same statement about the "threat of aliens attacking us, would unite us all", several times.

His question, was exactly that. What would we do if Aliens attacked us? We'd find out how stupid our little war's are. You can deduct all you want from his speeches about this. A big part of this might have been S.D.I. (missle defense shield) though, he did not mention it.

There is some evidence that evidence of ETI was discovered during the Reagan years, and that Reagan was aware of this evidence long before his mental issues. As well as President Bush (SR), who was the head of the C.I.A and then Vice President... and then of course President. When asked about weather aliens exist by a reporter he responded, "You don't know the half of it". Then there was the time when Steven Spielbergh was showing his movie, E.T. to the President. Shortly after it was over, Reagan reportedly leaned over to Spielberg and said, "That's the truth".

There are numerous little anecdotal stories involving that administration and aliens. I thought you were rulling out that Reagan could have been talking abotu ETI. When, that's EXACTLY what he was talking about.

Even if Reagan believed in extraterrestrials, remember this is the same man who thought that trees caused acid rain.

Even if Reagan believed in extraterrestrials, remember this is the same man who thought that trees caused acid rain.

Do you think what Reagan was speaking of possibly was distorted by some ignorant
reporter listening to him? You know, like the sound bites the media seems to
love, rather than getting into involved details.
From the EPA:
"Dry deposition refers to acidic gases and particles. About half of the acidity in the atmosphere falls back to earth through dry deposition. The wind blows these acidic particles and gases onto buildings, cars, homes, and trees. Dry deposited gases and particles can also be washed from trees and other surfaces by rainstorms. When that happens, the runoff water adds those acids to the acid rain, making the combination more acidic than the falling rain alone."
http://www.epa.gov/airmarkets/acidrain/

I suppose you are also aware that Ronald Reagan had a personal UFO sighting, not related to knowledge of 'hangers' or such, but in his personal
life. Once a person has witnessed something that defies his logic, not just a
point of light in the sky, but something he can see well but cannot think of
any reasonable explaination for, that person is not so quick to dismiss any
possible causes that may seem controversial to others.

LOL, both Regan and Carter both claimed to have seen a UFO. Not an AIDs virus or aliens among us. Yes he did mean UFO/ET as in the movie Independence Day. And he was using it as an example of how petty our little quarrels would seem if we were all faced with an ET invasion.

I don't know why he kept using that in several speaches but he did.

Denial is a strong force.





He wasn't saying that there were aliens among us. Regan was stating that the WAR is not aligned with humanity's GOALS as a community. He's using alien as a adjective, not a noun.

Alien - Dissimilar, inconsistent, or opposed

not

Alien - A creature from outer space

The completed clause from Reagan:To the 42nd General Assembly of the United Nations, September 21, 1987
And yet, I ask you, is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?"
There is no extraterrestrial "evidence" to be removed, and the first quote concludes Well, I don't suppose we can wait for some alien race to come down and threaten us....
2 minutes on google gave me this
http://www.aaaa.demon.nl/military.html