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View Full Version : Ron Paul breaks fundraising record
In an event created and promoted almost entirely by Ron Paul's grassroots support, a staggering total of 4 million dollars was raised in online campaign contributions for Ron Paul in the past 24 hours.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hyQLduiFMFTNmeUdgpf5cMvLi6awD8SNV5Q02
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, aided by an extraordinary outpouring of Internet support Monday, hauled in more than $4.2 million in nearly 24 hours.
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Paul's total deposed Mitt Romney as the single-day fundraising record holder in the Republican presidential field. When it comes to sums amassed in one day, Paul now ranks only behind Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton, who raised nearly $6.2 million on June 30, and Barack Obama.
Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said the effort began independently about two months ago at the hands of Paul's backers. He said Paul picked up on the movement, mentioning in it speeches and interviews.
"It's been kind of building up virally," Benton said.
The $4.2 million represented online contributions from more than 37,000 donors, fundraising director Jonathan Bydlak said Monday night.
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Paul as of Monday had raised more than $7 million since Oct. 1, more than half his goal of $12 million by the end of the year, according to his Web site.
A graph of the donations received on Nov 5th by hour:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1579/yesterdayvstodaylinewz7.th.png (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yesterdayvstodaylinewz7.png)
That's a lot of money in the hands of a man who absolutely can't get the nomination. :)
vslayer 11-06-07, 12:20 AM what makes you so sure he wont get the nomination? and even if he doesnt, the amount of public support he has is more than enough to get him a good chunk of the popular vote if he ran as an independent... that would require at least a representative democracy though, which america does not have.
what makes you so sure he wont get the nomination? and even if he doesnt, the amount of public support he has is more than enough to get him a good chunk of the popular vote if he ran as an independent... that would require at least a representative democracy though, which america does not have.
Heh, maybe I should've used a different smiley. I'm just taking a stab at others who've said that he has absolutely zero chance. And I don't think this country is anywhere near ready for an independent to be remotely close to the White House. If Paul doesn't get the nomination, he's out.
otheadp 11-06-07, 08:17 AM i don't understand where he gets his money from. he has almost no support (if you count people, not dollars), and has no way in hell to be POTUS.
pjdude1219 11-06-07, 08:25 AM i don't understand where he gets his money from. he has almost no support (if you count people, not dollars), and has no way in hell to be POTUS.
people thought the same of bush
Nikelodeon 11-06-07, 08:26 AM They did?
pjdude1219 11-06-07, 08:29 AM They did?
the no way in hell he could be potus part
i don't understand where he gets his money from. he has almost no support (if you count people, not dollars), and has no way in hell to be POTUS.
Few things to think about:
1. Are you drawing your conclusion of him having no support from all the polls you hear about with him at 1-4%?
2. Paul's name isn't always on those polls.
3. Those polls are conducted with land lines.
4. The group that's being polled is made up of voters who voted Republican in the 2006 elections. As you know, that was a terrible year for the GOP with many walking away from the party.
And you have to look at the fact that the majority of his donations comes from individuals. I think the average donation on the 5th was about $150. Not to mention how huge his grassroots support is with numerous meetup groups that campaign for him all throughout the US. That's one thing I find incredible about Paul's run; every candidate running for President is campaigning for the people, but Paul has the largest group campaigning for him! The majority of Paul's support is generated by, if you don't count the great message of course, his grassroots support, not the actual campaign.
So I don't think you should dismiss the idea of Paul having a support so quickly. That 4 million in one day had to come from somewhere, right? :shrug:
spidergoat 11-06-07, 11:25 AM That is an amazing show of support for R-Paul. I hope he does get the nomination, it would make for an interesting race. However, I think those that say he has no chance of the Republican nomination are right, he is not philosophically able to suck up to the proper corporate sponsors. Even if he doesn't need their money, they want someone indebted to them.
MZ3Boy84 11-06-07, 11:33 AM I would love to see him win.
Typically I vote democratic, but this time I think that most of them are nuts, along with the republicans. Democrats want to change things over night which won't happen and i think they are being unrealistic, and the republicans are way to trigger happy, being way to aggressive when it comes to foreign policy.
I was on the Hillary bandwagon for a while, and I do think she is a strong minded individual, but I just think that she, like most other dems are jumping the gun way to fast.
In my personal opinion I think Ron Paul is the best candidate out of everyone. He doesn't want to get involved in another war, and he is socially and financially responsible.
Democrats want to change things over night which won't happen and i think they are being unrealistic....
Do mean in terms of Iraq? Paul is calling is for immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Also for ending all participation in international organizations including NATO and closing most overseas military bases.
If your reason for being against the democrats in general is that they are too idealistic, I'm not sure Paul is a less idealistic alternative.
MZ3Boy84 11-06-07, 12:19 PM Do mean in terms of Iraq? Paul is calling is for immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Also for ending all participation in international organizations including NATO and closing most overseas military bases.
If your reason for being against the democrats in general is that they are too idealistic, I'm not sure Paul is a less idealistic alternative.
No, I referring to everything not just war.
No, I referring to everything not just war.
maxq still has a point, Paul wants to change a good amount of the way our Federal Government works. It's definitely not just foreign policy.
Paul wants to change a good amount of the way our Federal Government works.
He doesn't want to change towards anything different, he just wants to change what's been changed. ;)
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moementum7 11-06-07, 06:54 PM RP is da man!
spidergoat 11-06-07, 11:58 PM I dunno, Kucinich may be the man.
moementum7 11-07-07, 03:56 PM I dunno, Kucinich may be the man.
From what I have seen he seems like an alright guy, at least as far as Foreign Policy is concerned.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kCviUxgIWB8
But still got to go with my man Paul!:)
madanthonywayne 11-07-07, 10:39 PM Remember, remember the fifth of November.....
Anyone notice what day it was when he raised this money? Perhaps he'll blow up Parliament next.
Exhumed 11-07-07, 10:48 PM Remember, remember the fifth of November.....
Anyone notice what day it was when he raised this money? Perhaps he'll blow up Parliament next.
I wish I didn't, that movie blew :mad:
Nikelodeon 11-08-07, 09:24 AM That is an amazing show of support for R-Paul. I hope he does get the nomination, it would make for an interesting race. However, I think those that say he has no chance of the Republican nomination are right, he is not philosophically able to suck up to the proper corporate sponsors. Even if he doesn't need their money, they want someone indebted to them.
Who are these "corporate sponsors"?
Waleed_Halal 11-08-07, 10:02 AM Let's face it he has little chance.
spidergoat 11-08-07, 12:51 PM Who are these "corporate sponsors"?
You know, big pharma, oil, insurance, the military/industrial complex.
moementum7 11-08-07, 02:59 PM Let's face it he has little chance.
Ahahaha.
Let's face it, obviously your not keeping up on his progress.;)
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 05:09 AM I'll believe it when I see it.
moementum7 11-09-07, 07:59 AM I'll believe it when I see it.
That's logical, a little apathetic, but logical.
How about just some practical evidence in your own backyard for now to tide you over....like the poll in this thread for example;)
Here's a poll taken on another board I frequent(Health and Fitness)
Hilary Clinton 3 / 10.34%
Dennis Kucinich 0 / 0%
Rudy Giuliani 3 / 10.34%
Ron Paul 16 / 55.17%
Mitt Romney 2 / 6.90%
John McCain 1 / 3.45%
Mike Huckabee 1 / 3.45%
Other 1 / 3.45%
Not voting 1 / 3.45%
Voting but haven't decided 1 / 3.45%
So just sit back and enjoy the show.:)
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 08:00 AM internet phenomenon.
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:03 AM internet phenomenon.
Haha yeah, cause us people on the internet like you and me aren't real people:p
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 08:04 AM Well on the internet, people outside the US can vote in those polls.
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:08 AM Well people outside the US can vote in those polls.
Are you in someway implying that these people, outside the US can't vote for any of the other candidates?
Or that people like you and me somehow lack the capacity to choose or think for ourselves?
Your reasoning escapes me.
I have to assume your voting for some other candidate other than RP to explain your subtle contempt....am I right?
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 08:09 AM No just that internet polls are the worst when it comes to accuracy.
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:13 AM Curious, what do you base that on?
And what polls would you consider to be most accurate?
Let me guess, the ones where your candidate is winning...jk bro.:D
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 08:14 AM An internet poll.
Polls on forums are usually only usefull in determining the opinion of particular posters on a particular forum. They have less relevance to the greater population.
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:17 AM In case you missed my edit
And what polls would you consider to be most accurate?
Let me guess, the ones where your candidate is winning...jk bro.
But sounds like you have made up your mind already so we'll leave it at that.
Peace
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:20 AM An internet poll.
Polls on forums are usually only usefull in determining the opinion of particular posters on a particular forum. They have less relevance to the greater population.
Why does RP continue to win all of the online polls from the debates where no forums are involved...just the general populace?
Unless once again you consider studs:D like you and me on the internet to be somehow...not normal or general.
Nikelodeon 11-09-07, 08:21 AM He does? Well then hes a shoe-in.
moementum7 11-09-07, 08:21 AM He does? Well then hes a shoe-in.
....lol
Giambattista 11-10-07, 05:01 AM One should not only take into account the internet polls and his remarkable fundraising achievements, but the straw polls are also very interesting.
His latest 1st place win was the New York State Republican Straw Poll with over 43% of the vote. He has come in first place in a huge number of these polls, over twenty first-place wins so far, and second and third place wins are another huge chunk of the overall polls. I do believe, if my assesment is correct (and the numbers at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results definitely seem to back up the assumption), that his overall achievements with first, second, and third place wins makes his average better than any of the other candidates! In fact, quite a bit better.
Ron Paul himself has noted that the discrepancy between the internet polls/straw polls, and the so-called "National Polls" (in which he is shown as doing poorly) is puzzling. Add in his phenomenal fundraising to boot, and you have an even greater puzzle.
Like why do so many mainstream media sources continue to marginalize or outright exclude him from any mentions, while granting publicity to people like Duncan Hunter who are polling much worse than he is?? If he wins a poll, they don't talk about it. If he comes in second or third place, or nearly ties with one of the media-appointed frontrunners, he often isn't mentioned either.
Make no mistake about it: the controlled-media is actively obscuring and obfuscating anything to do with this man, and frankly I'm sickened by it. Sickened, yes, but sadly, not surprised.
And to anyone who thinks the idea of a controlled-media is ridiculous, well, I can only say with regret that there is little hope for your mental state. You may as well continue digging holes for you and your friends to bury your heads in. A truly profitless endeavor... :(
VitalOne 11-10-07, 04:52 PM We should break another record on Dec. 16th....
We should break another record on Dec. 16th....
I've got my fingers crossed for that. The 5th was a huge turning point in the campaign and hopefully the 16th will be an even bigger one. Especially in the light of other campaign's (or their grassroots') attempts to copy the money bomb which will most likely fail.
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