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View Full Version : Romantic Love deficit and Illegal Immigration
extrasense 03-22-06, 08:23 PM Those who are getting worked up about illegal immigration, are looking for all wrong ways to stop it.
Border control and such can not work in the long run.
The poetry, romantic love, romantic art, is what we need to have population growth that meets the needs of the economy, of military strength, and of geopolitics.
Without those, the population is going to shy the reproduction, use pills and abortions.
The feminism and homosexualism will further destroy ability of culture and of the reproduction itself to reproduce and to improve.
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Fraggle Rocker 03-26-06, 12:09 AM It's prosperity that lowers the birth rate.
extrasense 03-26-06, 12:51 AM It's prosperity that lowers the birth rate.
It is not good and not smart to trade Love for "Prosperity".
It is not good and not smart to trade Freedom for "Prosperity".
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G. F. Schleebenhorst 03-27-06, 04:14 PM It's prosperity that lowers the birth rate.
It's "equal rights". Women who get careers, and before they realise it they're 50 and childless.
Clockwood 03-27-06, 04:46 PM Invest in mormons.
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What?
extrasense 03-28-06, 06:30 AM Invest in mormons.
That would be a start
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dixonmassey 03-28-06, 09:25 AM Notion of the "Romantic" was imbedded in the mass consciousness not so long time ago. Two hundreds years or so. Prior to that, the idea was reserved mostly for the upper classes. Ironically, prior to the age of romantic love, humans were proliferating like rabbits. Today, it's consumerism age. Everything is for sale and consumption including "romantic love" (whatever it's).
extrasense 03-28-06, 10:00 AM Notion of the "Romantic" was imbedded in the mass consciousness not so long time ago. Two hundreds years or so. Prior to that, the idea was reserved mostly for the upper classes. Ironically, prior to the age of romantic love, humans were proliferating like rabbits. Today, it's consumerism age. Everything is for sale and consumption including "romantic love" (whatever it's).
The Romantic Love is a culture phenomenon, wheather of people culture or of the written culture/literature.
"Romeo and Juliett" were written by Englishman.
You are most likely wrong, suggesting that "humans were proliferating like rabbits" without Romantic Love
As the wars has become technical, without the swords and horses, the country can survive for a long time without courage and such, produced by the Romantic Love. .
But the proper population reproduction suffers. It is not the "consumption" that cuts off the Love, it is the way that consumption is feing fueled, by the money solely.
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dixonmassey 03-28-06, 12:37 PM The Romantic Love is a culture phenomenon, wheather of people culture or of the written culture/literature.
which was aimed at the upper crust at the time.
"Romeo and Juliett" were written by Englishman.
How many (as % of population) Englishmen could read in 17th century? How many of those who could read actually have read "Romeo and Juliet"? I've thought so :). The age of mass education began somewhere in 19th century. Prior to that peasants had no clue about romantic love (whatever that means).
You are most likely wrong, suggesting that "humans were proliferating like rabbits" without Romantic Love
Example, the end of 18th century, USA. The average settler's family has something like 12-15 kids. With that number of kids, I doubt that parents could find time to breeze deeply not speaking of practicing "romantic love". They just kept on making kinders and surviving.
extrasense 03-28-06, 01:09 PM Example, the end of 18th century, USA. The average settler's family has something like 12-15 kids..
You can not go back. We do not know what was in hearts and minds of those people either.
There should be balance of stimulae that are available/present now.
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Clockwood 03-28-06, 06:33 PM I will tell you exactly what it was like then. Internal lighting was expensive. You wen't to bed early. Contraceptives basically didn't exist. And there was nothing better to do with your time than to screw your wife.
extrasense 03-29-06, 01:58 AM And there was nothing better to do with your time than to screw your wife.
And still there is "nothing better to do with your time".
The only difference is that you can listen to TV at the same time.
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Clockwood 03-29-06, 02:36 AM I think for many people, its too much work after a long day of screaming at moronic coworkers, being jammed in traffic for an hour and a half, being psychologically damaged by ten minutes of news, and playing doorman and waiter for the cat three times in the night.
At least if you are over thirty.
extrasense 03-29-06, 05:46 AM At least if you are over thirty.
You are smart guy, I am glad I met you here.
The thing is that marriage is moved late in the life, considering that the biological peak is 19.
Unless you are madly in love, you consider yourself mad to merry before 40
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