Rock or Santanic?

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by Blackrain, Aug 8, 2005.

  1. Blackrain Registered Senior Member

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    This to the people who say rap is crap. What do you think about these insightful Rock & Roll lyrics.

    So should all Rock Music be judged based on extreme cases? Sure why not, that's how Rap music is judged so it's fair to say that Rock is satanic.

    Welcome to my room my dear I'll show you a good time
    It's too bad that you never heard my fetish is a crime
    There's no need to worry bitch, just lay there and relax
    And as you reach your climax I'll be reaching for my axe!!
    CHORUS:
    With five easy slices, you're in six lovely pieces
    Bodily dismemberment as passion increases
    So you wanna play games do ya?
    Well just who do you think you're fucking with!
    You see I've learned everything the hard way
    Yes I've been through hell and back
    And I believe the time has come to show you why you're here
    You see the weapon in my hands and you know your death is near
    When I tied your hands and feet you thought it was exciting
    But now you know you cannot stop, your body's disuniting
    CHORUS
    Who's laughing now you fool?
    You had your chance, and that's it!
    Expect no mercy from this maniac
    Well you're fucking history bitch!
    First I'll slice your tender leg off just above the thighs
    Then I remove your slender arms my passion running high
    Last I will decapitate your pretty little head
    A masterpiece of blood and flesh lies twitching on my bed
    CHORUS
    Why do you make me do these things?
    When you know I never wanted to hurt you
    But no, you wouldn't listen, would you?
    Well you stupid fuck, look at you now!





    Condemned To Hell
    Rigor Mortis

    I knew my destination from my moment of birth
    I'd live my life my own way and wreak havoc on Earth
    Through my entire childhood most everyone could tell
    I have no earthly master 'cause I'm condemned to hell!
    My moral violations are proof for all to see
    My life is just a journey to where I oughtta be
    There are evil wicked forces within my every cell
    Which always reassures me that I'm condemned to hell!
    Hell - Is meant for me
    Hell - Is where I'll be
    Hell - The place I'll roam
    Hell - My final home
    To many I'm a demon to others I'm insane
    But all who dare confront me are brought to death in pain
    I always kill them slowly I love to hear them yell
    I slaughter without mercy and I'm condemned to hell!!
     
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  3. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Ooh.
    Ooh.
    Yeah. A distasteful lyrics thread.
    Sweet.

    Here's one:

    On the Rag by The Mentors
    My bitch is on the rag
    Bloody cunt is such a drag
    My bitch is on the rag
    Oh she's such a nag

    Ran and jumped and splashed in her bed
    Then I noticed the sheets were all bloody red
    I was chowin' down and somethin' tasted weird
    Ran to the mirror saw blood on my beard

    My bitch is on the rag
    Bloody cunt is such a drag
    My bitch is on the rag
    Oh,oh,oh she's such a nag

    Then she said she wanted to ball
    I said shut up bitch and take a midol
    She insisted on having sex
    Spread her legs and saw a kotex

    My bitch is on the rag
    Bleeding hole is such a drag
    My bitch is on the rag
    Oh,oh,oh she's such a nag

    She was bitchy and causing a fuss
    It's an added problem between us
    Water build up what a drag
    I know this bitch is on the rag

    When this bitch is on the rag
    I love to say things and I love to brag
    Usually sex is such a gas
    But this time,I'm crammin' it up her ass yeah

    My bitch is on the rag
    Bleeding twit is such a drag
    My bitch is on the rag
    Oh,oh,oh she's such a nag

    On the rag,what a drag,on the rag,what a drag
    She's on the rag,she's on the rag,she's such a nag​
     
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  5. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    which rap is not crappy?
    (i am not implying that rock is or is not, an indifferent statement).
     
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  7. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Rap sucks.
    Let's talk about Rock and/or Roll. And distasteful lyrics.

    Dead Skin Mask by Slayer:
    [(spoken

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    How Ive waited for you to come
    I've been here all alone
    Now that youve arrived
    Please stay a while
    And I promise I wont keep you long
    I'll keep you forever]

    Graze the skin with my finger tips
    The brush of dead cold flesh pacifies [sings appease] the means
    Provoking images delicate features so smooth
    A pleasant fragrance in the light of the moon

    Dance with the dead in my dreams
    Listen to their hallowed screams
    The dead have taken my soul
    Temptations lost all control

    Simple smiles elude psychotic eyes
    Lose all mind control rationale declines
    Empty eyes enslave the creations
    Of placid faces and lifeless pageants

    In the depths of a mind insane
    Fantasy and reality are the same

    Graze the skin with my finger tips
    The brush of dead warm flesh pacifies the means
    Incised members ornaments on my being
    Adulating the skin before me

    Simple smiles elude psychotic eyes
    Lose all mind control rationale declines
    Empty eyes enslave the creations
    Of placid faces and lifeless pageants

    Dance with the dead in my dreams [hello? hello mr gein? ]
    Listen to their hollowed screams [mr gein? ]
    The dead have taken my soul [lemme out of here mr gein]
    Temptations lost all control [mr gein? I dont wanna play anymore mr gein]
    Dance with the dead in my dreams [mr gein, its not any fun anymore,]
    Listen to their hollowed screams [i dont want to play anymore mr gein]
    The dead have taken my soul [mr gein? lemme out of here mr gein]
    Temptations lost all control [lemme out, lemmmmeee oouuuuuuttt!!]​
     
  8. Arquibus Master of Useless Information Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, rap is not judged on the extreme, rather the norm. The very people that argue well for rap (unlike you Blackrain) state that the rap that we hate is mainstream, versus the stuff that is good being underground. On the other hand, you say we judge it on extremes, but were that the case, I'd say we would find it to be better. Though I applaud your finding of these questionable rock lyrics, I have never heard that song or one like it. This illustrates that it is, as you said, extreme. Therefore, this argument is about two different things with entirely different variables as well, and therefore not the argument you were trying to initiate. It means nothing.
     
  9. Blackrain Registered Senior Member

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  10. orestes Strategos Registered Senior Member

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    Blacktrain:

    You're taking extreme examples from heavy DEATH metal bands. Let me say that again. DEATH METAL. Of course the lyrics are going to be satanic. Thats why its called death metal. There is a difference between that and rock. In rap however, harsh and uncompromising lyrics are the norm. You obviously dont listen to any rock radio stations. You won't hear satanic lyrics. They exist, but not in the mainstream. Therefore, your ass is owned is this whole argument.
     
  11. Blackrain Registered Senior Member

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    You're wrong, can you explain why the Beatles had Alleister Crowley (Satanic Preacher) posing with them on one of their album covers? And there's many more examples of Rock artists infactuation with Satan. Read the link I provided in a previous posts. The facts are there.
     
  12. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Rigor Mortis is a speed metal band.
    The Mentors are a thrash band.
    Slayer is a speed/death hybrid.

    Rigor Mortis is also playing live, re-united, in Dallas, San Marcos and Austin:

    http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/YaBB.cgi?board=metal_news;action=display;num=1121228395

    I suggest you go. Their guitarist later went on to Ministry, their bassist to Gwar, and their drummer to some punk band named Blohole.
     
  13. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    Rock is satanic and rap is NOT crap.
     
  14. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Praise Black Jesus
     
  15. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    obviously you haven't listen to all rock songs. You must listen to the ones where they scream at the top of thier lungs all the time.
     
  16. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Slayer, theoretically one of the most "Thatanic" metal bands, wrote this surprisingly Christian song:

    An unforeseen future nestled somewhere in time.
    Unsuspecting victims no warnings, no signs.
    Judgment day the second coming arrives.
    Before you see the light you must die.

    Forgotten children, conform a new faith,
    Avidity and lust controlled by hate.
    [the] never ending search for your shattered sanity,
    Souls of damnation in their own reality.

    Chaos rampant,
    An age of distrust.
    Confrontations.
    Impulsive habitat.

    Bastard sons beget your cunting daughters,
    Promiscuous mothers with your incestuous fathers.
    Engreat souls condemned for [all] eternity,
    Sustained by immoral observance a domineering deity.

    Chaos rampant,
    An age of distrust.
    Confrontations.
    Impulsive sabbath.

    On and on, south of heaven [x 4]

    Lead: king

    The root of all evil is the heart of a black soul.
    A force that has lived all eternity.
    A never ending search for a truth never told.
    The loss of all hope and your dignity.

    Chaos rampant,
    An age of distrust.
    Confrontations.
    Impulsive habitat.

    On and on, south of heaven [x 4]
     
  17. orestes Strategos Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly.

    Maybe the problem I'm having is of my definition of rock, and what is considered rock. I was raised on classic rock: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Steppenwolf, the list goes on. I just don't see how stuff like that is satanic. I consider heavy metal and rock two seperate things. Hah, and it may well be wrong to do so according to some of you.
     
  18. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Uh.
    What's so 'christian' about South of Heaven?
    They're pretty much saying that you should die before you see the light and therefore go to hell.

    Now.
    Are they glorifying Satanism? Making it like some kind of candyland?
    No. They speak blatantly about the dangers inherent in such a path if one believed in the whole myth (which I don't think they do. It's a joke to them.)
    Spill the blood clearly starts out with them telling you to spill the blood and that you'll get this and that. But it ends clearly with "I'll have your soul."
    The Crooked Cross is likewise, although it could conceivably be about a Nazi ideology rather than a 'satanic' army. It really could cover both.

    So.
    What do you consider to be satanic?
    If Satan were real, then why would you expect him to be selling himself with these lyrics that clearly expose his evil? Isn't Satan the father of lies? What was the band that Little Nicky played backwards? Chicago?


    And. Yes. I don't really see a difference in genres. Yes. I suppose you could call the heavier bands 'metal'. But. Many people would call Led Zeppelin heavy metal (which brings us to 'sad satan' muaha!)

    It's all rock'n'roll.


    Anyway.
    Get off the Satanic crap and think more about hedonism or stupidity.
    Rock is definitely not purely intellectual. Yes. It does have a large number of thought provoking bands. Especially when you get to the heavier genres (perhaps ironically). But, it's filled with idiotic good-time, party, fuck the world let's get high music that you're all ignoring.

    So what?

    Rap sucks. I say this with no hesitation in my mind whatsoever. It sucks donkey dick and I wish it'd just die and go away.
    But. Whatever. It's just music. Even if I don't like it. The people buying the crap do. So all power to 'em.

    It sucks that headbangers ball died (although I think it's back. Or was back briefly. But just not the same. It all seems so imitative nowadays. Trying to recapture a heyday rather than progressing.)
    But. The world continues.
    Put in some Exodus and do the Toxic Waltz.
    Good friendly violent fun in store for all.

    And then smoke a joint, get an erection, and rape someone.
    Woo hoo!

    This thread would have been far better as a distasteful lyrics thread.
    Oh well.
     
  19. Cassie Calibre Registered Member

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    rap is crap .. rock is crap.. y'know... it's just an opinion.. it's a matter of taste..

    agree with iNex *Invert_Nexus.. in and ex sounds cool i like your nick..*
     
  20. titanguy9 Registered Member

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    I think we all have realized something Arquibus has been beaten down
     
  21. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Hail Satan!
     
  22. Arquibus Master of Useless Information Registered Senior Member

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    Who says I was beaten down? I just haven't been on for a while. The fact is, Blackrain, that the extreme in rock (you said it was in your first post) is being compared with the mainstream of rap. Therefore, your argument has no real relevance. If you fail to see this, then it is you who are the idiot.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Blackrain appears to be under the delusion that there is rap music and everything else. In fact, 'everything else' also has a lot of bad content as well.

    Quality, of which there is little, can exist in any genre of music. Unfortunately, rap has not provided any as yet.

    And, quality stems from the individual artist as opposed to the genre. It is the one who pens the songs that needs to be critiqued.
     

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