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MattMarr
07-10-07, 09:52 PM
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end" (Rev. 22:13).

The difference between what you are expected to see and what you can see with your own eyes.
This time I don't mean the moon, like I did here, May 22, 2007:
http://moon-signs.blogspot.com/2007/05/saturn-occultation-may-22-2007.html

I mean Rev 22:16, the words illuminated the same day here:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs215&d=07212&f=venus220507.jpg

ashura
07-10-07, 09:53 PM
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end" (Rev. 22:13).

The difference between what you are expected to see and what you can see with your own eyes.
This time I don't mean the moon, like I did here, May 22, 2007:
http://moon-signs.blogspot.com/2007/05/saturn-occultation-may-22-2007.html

I mean Rev 22:16, the words illuminated the same day here:
http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs215&d=07212&f=venus220507.jpg

Yes, my toast mentioned something similar earlier this morning, but the marmalade couldn't (wouldn't?) tell me if I should trust it's judgment.

scorpius
07-10-07, 10:26 PM
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end" (Rev. 22:13).

this is NOT logical,... if youre first you cant be last and vice versa,..
rev 22 is garbage

ashura
07-10-07, 10:29 PM
this is NOT logical,... if youre first you cant be last and vice versa,..
rev 22 is garbage

First piece of toast on the plate can end up being the last piece of toast on the plate if you eat the others before it, yup.

mikenostic
07-10-07, 10:36 PM
There is also speculation that Revelation talks about the times and events current to the time when it was written (i.e. NOT NOW).

http://www.westpalmbeachchurchofchrist.com/articles/revelation/summary.html


Revelation 1:1 begins with very important words that informs us as to the nature of this book. The first verse tells us that the things that we are going to read about must "quickly take place." Thus the events that we read about are not things that would happen thousands of years later, but were about to begin in the days of the first century readers.

MattMarr
07-10-07, 10:44 PM
The Morning Star is the same as the Evening Star -- Venus: it sets twenty minutes after sunset and rises twelve minutes before sunrise; it is the first of the evening stars, and the last of the morning stars.

pjdude1219
07-10-07, 11:57 PM
revalations was written by a guy trying to insure chriastians would keep the faith in the face roman persacution it really isn't meant as prophecy in fortelling the future

Captain Kremmen
07-30-07, 04:50 PM
The Morning Star is the same as the Evening Star -- Venus: it sets twenty minutes after sunset and rises twelve minutes before sunrise; it is the first of the evening stars, and the last of the morning stars.

Are you saying that the quotation in revelations refers to Venus, which is both alpha-morning and omega-evening? Interesting idea.

Captain Kremmen
08-01-07, 09:09 AM
I feel a bit like revelation 22. The last poster on this thread.... erm... Hello!........ anyone there?

Enmos
08-01-07, 09:12 AM
Wooptidoo !

Nickelodeon
08-01-07, 09:16 AM
What happens after the last chapter of the Bible, we move on to the Koran?

EmptyForceOfChi
08-02-07, 06:14 PM
What happens after the last chapter of the Bible, we move on to the Koran?

no god kills us all or something equaly as enjoyable.

peace.

Captain Kremmen
08-02-07, 07:02 PM
What this thread needs is a post from FIARDO.
Zut alors! Blueberry muffins from Mars.

nietzschefan
08-02-07, 07:26 PM
Cool, so Matt....if we make it another say...100 years, we can burn every fucking bible on this planet?

Nickelodeon
08-03-07, 02:40 AM
Do we have to wait that long?

alexb123
08-03-07, 02:45 AM
Cool, so Matt....if we make it another say...100 years, we can burn every fucking bible on this planet?

We have already been on the last page more than 100 years, I think it just starts again.

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 02:47 AM
What happens after the last chapter of the Bible, we move on to the Koran?

Maybe the last page is missing. The page where it's all explained like an Agatha Christie book.

Nickelodeon
08-03-07, 03:10 AM
I await the sequel, Bible 2.0.

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 03:16 AM
In Bible 1.0, on the missing page, the character that you think is dead reappears at the last minute..... setting up the basis for bible 2.0

Medicine*Woman
08-03-07, 10:23 AM
Cool, so Matt....if we make it another say...100 years, we can burn every fucking bible on this planet?
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M*W: I'll bring the matches.

Medicine*Woman
08-03-07, 10:29 AM
The Morning Star is the same as the Evening Star--Venus: it sets twenty minutes after sunset and rises twelve minutes before sunrise; it is the first of the evening stars, and the last of the morning stars.
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M*W: While your astronomy may be accurate, the Alpha and Omega are metaphors for our never ending orbit around the sun. The beginning is also the end. The end is also the beginning. The ultimate metaphor is that the sun (which is a metaphor for god) is never ending and always re-beginning.

There's no mystery in Revelation. It can all be explained by astro-theological metaphor (also called myth).

Captain Kremmen
08-03-07, 05:28 PM
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M*W: While your astronomy may be accurate, the Alpha and Omega are metaphors for our never ending orbit around the sun. The beginning is also the end. The end is also the beginning. The ultimate metaphor is that the sun (which is a metaphor for god) is never ending and always re-beginning.

There's no mystery in Revelation. It can all be explained by astro-theological metaphor (also called myth).

I'm not quite sure if that is what Matt Marr did mean. I asked him, and he didn't reply. Perhaps he will reply to you. The Evening and Morning star metaphor is a nice one because it is a situation where there seem to be two things, but they are really the same thing, being the planet Venus of course. Also one is at the start of the day and the other is at the end.
Whether it's got anything to do with Revelations is another matter, but it's a lovely image, and it fits the theme of Alpha and Omega perfectly.

Captain Kremmen
08-05-07, 03:47 AM
hello......erm, hello!........
Where is everyone on this thread?

Anyone else not been raptured yet?

Enmos
08-06-07, 04:46 AM
hello......erm, hello!........
Where is everyone on this thread?

Anyone else not been raptured yet?

Im still here.. rapture ? :eek:

Captain Kremmen
08-06-07, 04:56 AM
Im still here.. rapture ? :eek:

That's two of us then.
Maybe you have to say some magic word to get raptured.

Allahkazzam!

..........no, I'm still here.

Enmos
08-06-07, 05:15 AM
That's two of us then.
Maybe you have to say some magic word to get raptured.

Allahkazzam!

..........no, I'm still here.

Maybe if you convert... erm no too late i guess. Oh well :shrug:

Captain Kremmen
08-06-07, 04:34 PM
Maybe God's Catholic. A little Catholic prayer might do the business.

St Veronica of the Blessed Holy Handkerchief,
rapture us.................

.......no, still here.

spidergoat
08-06-07, 04:39 PM
Im still here.. rapture ? :eek:

We've all been raptured! This is heaven!

Captain Kremmen
08-06-07, 04:41 PM
We've all been raptured! This is heaven!

This is going to take some getting used to.
It's very similar to how earth was.
I thought it would be different somehow.

Oli
08-06-07, 04:45 PM
The weather is better.
But Guinness is still £2.70 a pint.
Surely it should be cheaper?

Enmos
08-06-07, 04:47 PM
We've all been raptured! This is heaven!

No, the theists are still questioning evolution... this cannot be heaven :bawl:

Oli
08-06-07, 04:50 PM
No, the theists are still questioning evolution... this cannot be heaven :bawl:

Maybe we're in the other place? :eek:

Enmos
08-06-07, 05:05 PM
Oh God, please... !! *tries to kill himself but miserably fails, ofcourse*

Medicine*Woman
08-06-07, 05:24 PM
I'm not quite sure if that is what Matt Marr did mean. I asked him, and he didn't reply. Perhaps he will reply to you. The Evening and Morning star metaphor is a nice one because it is a situation where there seem to be two things, but they are really the same thing, being the planet Venus of course. Also one is at the start of the day and the other is at the end.
Whether it's got anything to do with Revelations is another matter, but it's a lovely image, and it fits the theme of Alpha and Omega perfectly.
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M*W: I doubt MaatMarr will reply with an answer. He only wants to preach not learn.

MattMarr
10-22-07, 07:27 AM
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2007-10/33370665.jpg

Did you echo it? Ever wondered if you will have to answer that question before standing at Hell gates?

Notes:
Malibu and Santa Barbara, North America's Riviera.
October 2007 - Malibu waterfornt burns.
photo from
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2007-10/33370665.jpg

Captain Kremmen
10-22-07, 07:41 AM
You have a very potent combination of meme viruses Mr Marr.
I don't know why someone who never replies to posts is allowed on this site.
Don't they ban spamming here?

A question for you.
What has Revelations 22 got to do with it?
Let's see if there is any reply.
I won't hold my breath.

Sock puppet path
10-24-07, 12:12 PM
I await the sequel, Bible 2.0.

Does that one have Bruce Willis and Danny glover in it too?

Nickelodeon
10-24-07, 12:12 PM
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2007-10/33370665.jpg

Did you echo it? Ever wondered if you will have to answer that question before standing at Hell gates?

Notes:
Malibu and Santa Barbara, North America's Riviera.
October 2007 - Malibu waterfornt burns.
photo from
http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/photo/2007-10/33370665.jpg

Is that sandys house?

sandy
10-24-07, 12:15 PM
Nope. My properties are fine. I'm one of the few Christians out here who has divine protection. ;) :worship: :bravo:

Nickelodeon
10-24-07, 12:15 PM
I guess all the rest were disbelievers?

Sock puppet path
10-24-07, 12:16 PM
Is that sandys house?


:roflmao::bravo:

Just a joke Sandy I don't hope your house burned.

maxg
10-24-07, 02:16 PM
God changed his mind before and wrote a bunch of other chapters, maybe he'll do so again.

sandy
10-24-07, 02:41 PM
God didn't change His mind. The Bible is His Word. His uncompromised word. Born-again Christians live by the New Covenant (New Testament.) Yes we are in the end times.

For anyone who misses the Rapture, make sure you get down on your knees right after it happens and accept Him. It won't be as bad as Hell, but it won't be anything like going up with the first group. :eek:

I don't know about any of the other people. CA is full of liberals and godless people. I know what works for me. His word. That's why I use it. My born-again-on-fire-for Jesus friends/family have all been spared damage too.

Theists don't question evolution. They know it's a crock. :rolleyes:

Most of the Bible prophesies have been met. The fires are another sign. Get ready folks. He's coming soon. :worship:

spidergoat
10-24-07, 03:03 PM
Why did He get is wrong the first time (old testament)? Calling it a new covenant doesn't change the fact that something must have been wrong with the first one.

spidergoat
10-24-07, 03:04 PM
You have a very potent combination of meme viruses Mr Marr.
I don't know why someone who never replies to posts is allowed on this site.
Don't they ban spamming here?

A question for you.
What has Revelations 22 got to do with it?
Let's see if there is any reply.
I won't hold my breath.

He's a memebot!

sandy
10-24-07, 03:18 PM
He didn't get it wrong the first time. The old covenant (Old Testament-OT) is about God. The new covenant (New Testament-NT) is about his Son, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for His children. Even you. ;)

spidergoat
10-24-07, 03:25 PM
If I were there, perhaps he wouldn't have died. I had no say in the matter. I strongly suspect that this human sacrifice was an evolution from the barbaric and irrational Middle Eastern custom of transferring all the guilt and wrongdoing of a society onto a goat, and then either killing it, or leaving it off in the wilderness to die.

sandy
10-24-07, 03:30 PM
You couldn't have stopped it. It was written. It was God's will to sacrifice His only Son.
Interesting theory otherwise. :)

spidergoat
10-24-07, 03:33 PM
If it was inevitable, then it wasn't a sacrifice.

maxg
10-24-07, 09:03 PM
He didn't get it wrong the first time. The old covenant (Old Testament-OT) is about God. The new covenant (New Testament-NT) is about his Son, Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for His children. Even you. ;)

So can we expect a 3rd sequel about the Holy Spirit?

sandy
10-24-07, 09:05 PM
Nope. This is it. We're at the end of the end times. I have no idea when Jesus will return but I am ready.

Exhumed
10-24-07, 09:19 PM
I'm actually worried you're right... Is this video accurate? It has me pretty freaked out...too many coincidences (***FOR SANDY ONLY***)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=R3AyOMoUNHo

sandy
10-24-07, 09:22 PM
That was a cute little video nowhere near what hell will be like.
Take the absolute WORST day of your life. Multiply it by 666. That's hell.

Captain Kremmen
10-25-07, 11:28 AM
He's a memebot!

He's just being selfish.
It's Meme meme meme all the time.

Exhumed
10-25-07, 04:50 PM
That was a cute little video nowhere near what hell will be like.
Take the absolute WORST day of your life. Multiply it by 666. That's hell.

You didn't watch the movie :(:(

That clip is supposed to kill anyone who watches

sandy
10-25-07, 07:16 PM
No one can kill me. Jesus lives inside of me. No one can kill Him. :worship:

Reiku
10-25-07, 10:46 PM
this is NOT logical,... if youre first you cant be last and vice versa,..
rev 22 is garbage


How very illogical and falsified.

In relativity then, why is both the beginning and end simultaneous and singular?

MattMarr
11-26-07, 09:33 AM
(2) Malibu and Santa Barbara, North America's Riviera. October 2007 - Malibu waterfornt burns.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6170/revelationfirecc0.jpg

That book was open, so nothing under the sun can now escape the laws of end times reductionism. Once again illustrated worldwide first one month later....http://end-times-reductionism.blogspot.com/2007/11/heliocentric-big-lie-reduced-to-minimum.html
... as the reduction of North America's only Riviera, from Malibu to Santa Barbara, continues.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/1127/malibusf9.jpg

MattMarr
03-19-08, 02:25 AM
The time came to destroy those who destroy the earth.

A Revelation 11:18 line explained in detail worldwide first by End Times Prophet, in 1998 (1), when the illuminati theater reached the climax, with oil prices of $10 a barrel.
The stage collapsed long ago, but who echoed the words of God's servant through Illuminati End Times? (2)
Even less than the six who reduced that line from Revelation 11:18. (3)
End Times Reductionism again and again. (4)

Notes
(1) page from 1999, but first archived Feb 19, 2002 - - - http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://verdade.no.sapo.pt/reason/oil_reserves.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20020219173025/http://verdade.no.sapo.pt/reason/oil_reserves.html
Long after the stage collapsed, Google still remembers many of the words of End Times Prophet. Take for example the first current result, from 2005:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MattMarriott+%22exponential+curve%22

(2) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=MattMarriott+%22web+of+truth%22

(3) Google only knows about five sites who did it, as of today:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22The+time+came+to+destroy+those+who+destroy+th e+earth%22

(4) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22End+Times+Reductionism%22
and one final link, to the very last one and only result
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22We+are+at+the+very+last+chapter+of+the+Bible% 22

Nickelodeon
03-19-08, 04:40 PM
Oh Fuck!!!

draqon
03-19-08, 04:41 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6170/revelationfirecc0.jpg


bunch of California houses burning...oh my...this must be the end of the world as we know it. :rolleyes:

Nickelodeon
03-19-08, 04:59 PM
(2) Malibu and Santa Barbara, North America's Riviera. October 2007 - Malibu waterfornt burns.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6170/revelationfirecc0.jpg

The fire is behind you dumbass.

Myles
03-19-08, 06:56 PM
To think it all started with a pagan bible-burning cermony.

" And the wrath of the Righteous One shall be visited upon ye "

Eugenics 2.13