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HiLe
10-16-06, 07:12 PM
According to the World Book Encyclopedia, vol. 6 (E), page 103, copyright Field Enterprises Educational Corporation, 1975, U.S.A.:
“Unified Field Theory. Einstein’s general theory of relativity did not completely satisfy him because it did not include electromagnetism. Beginning in the late 1920’s, he tried to combine electromagnetic and gravitational phenomena in a single theory, called a unified field theory. Einstein failed to establish a unified field theory, though he spent the last 25 years of his life working on it. Toward the end of his life, he remarked that it would be worthwhile to show that such a theory did not exist. He worried that if he neither produced a theory nor showed that one was impossible, perhaps no one ever would.”
Einstein recognized his failure in the establishment of his Unified Field Theory with a remark that has not a person who will perfect this his theory.
Do you think his remark true?

JetPilot
10-16-06, 07:50 PM
Sounds rather selfish of him to say something like that in the first place, but maybe he never believed anyone ever did or would understand it like he did? Whatever the case I am sure if such a theory exists someone will come up with it eventually. Einstein was smart but so are many other people, and so will be many people.

Blindstein
10-16-06, 08:15 PM
I shared an idea I'd imagined with only a few women which i had called my Universal Realitivity Theory (this impressed the girls). I've searched online all week for any familiar conceptions, but no theory exist yet. It fits well with all fields of science, including biochemistry. I am excited. I will publish my theory in a series of illustrations. For now i am pending for a petent. Like Einstien, I also think that God is our Creator.

Dinosaur
10-16-06, 10:44 PM
Perhaps Einstein came to believe that Quantum Theory and General Relativity were so alien to eachother that there could be no Unified Field theory. which is what they called GUT (Grand Unified Theory), TOE (Theory of Everything), et cetera in those days.

LaidBack
10-20-06, 12:48 AM
According to the World Book Encyclopedia, vol. 6 (E), page 103, copyright Field Enterprises Educational Corporation, 1975, U.S.A.:
“Unified Field Theory. Einstein’s general theory of relativity did not completely satisfy him because it did not include electromagnetism. Beginning in the late 1920’s, he tried to combine electromagnetic and gravitational phenomena in a single theory, called a unified field theory. Einstein failed to establish a unified field theory, though he spent the last 25 years of his life working on it. Toward the end of his life, he remarked that it would be worthwhile to show that such a theory did not exist. He worried that if he neither produced a theory nor showed that one was impossible, perhaps no one ever would.”
Einstein recognized his failure in the establishment of his Unified Field Theory with a remark that has not a person who will perfect this his theory.
Do you think his remark true?

Einstein didn't have to unify gravity with electromagnetic forces..

His E=MC^2 really does explain everything! SERIOUSLY!

Including why our atmosphere exerts upon our oceans and why our upper atmosphere is exerted upon by areas of C^2 that is NEAR unity and or near vacuum.

All we need, is to plot space time areas of "C^2" that are stacked on top of each other starting from the oceans depths and or even our earths core, right up to beyond our atmosphere to get the gist of space time.

Noting the need to calculate whatever frequency of light and or charge is resonating through whatever given area.

Dinosaur
10-20-06, 10:13 PM
LaidBack: You seem to be relating C<sup>2</sup> to an area. I have never seen this interpretation.

This has dimensions distance<sup>2</sup> / Time<sup>2</sup> rather than distance<sup>2</sup>. If C<sup>2</sup> related to an area, E=Mass*C<sup>2</sup> would not make much sense. Energy = Mass*Area??

CANGAS
10-20-06, 11:40 PM
I do not think that it is true that nobody will ever either prove that a unified field ( electric field and gravity ) theory is true or impossible.

I believe that Einstein published one or more such theories and then retracted them.

I also believe that the time is ripe for someone to prove a unified field theory or to prove that the two forces are incompatible.

Dinosaur
10-21-06, 04:08 PM
It seems possible that a theory like Loop Quantum Gravity is valid but useless. That theory assumes that space & time are quantized, but the quanta are incredibly small.

Note that General Relativity gravitational equations are conisdered to be a better description of reality than Newtonian gravitational equations. Yet for many purposes, our measurment technology does allow us to distinguish between them. For extreme conditions, there is a measurable difference between the two theories.

Perhaps General Relativity is precise enough that a better theory provides no measurable improvement. Loop Quantum Gravity assumes that the smallest possbile volume is 10<sup>-99</sup> cubic centimeters and the smallest time interval is 10<sup>-43</sup> Seconds. With increments so small, it might not be possible to distinguish a quantum theory of space/time from a continous theory like General Relativity.

spidergoat
10-21-06, 04:10 PM
Hawking?

S.Ingvar
10-21-06, 07:55 PM
Whatever the case I am sure if such a theory exists someone will come up with it eventually.
I have found the unified theory of physics.
It is based on wave-mechanics and thermodynamics.
It is built on phenomenon that everybody have seen but not noticed.
It is derived from observations and experiments and new discoveries.
It is empirical and easy to understand.
See it at: http://www.theuniphysics.info

Tell me what you think,
Ingvar, Sweden

cato
10-21-06, 09:31 PM
the problem is, there can't be another Einstein in our current social atmosphere. right now, its cool to be stupid, and not fashionable to know what a quark is. Hawking is about as close as someone can get in todays society.

if string theory turns out to be correct, then Witten would be big, but he has no Charisma (and talks like a little girl)

PolitiKane
10-21-06, 10:07 PM
There will always be another Einstein, when the time is right. However, his statement that if he could not prove or disprove the unified theory then nobody could may be true. Einstein was truly superior and he likely saw it in his mind and could not make sense of it and/or communicate it properly and mathematically. It would be like describing a dream; even if you were to find somebody interested you could never fully and accurately describe it and no matter how well you do it is still gone when you die. The feeling, the logic, the clarity, and all that encompasses it can never be explained and communicated. Even if another made sense of it for you it doesn't mean that they truly understand it the way you did. So, the Unified theory will be proven or disproven, but never understood like Einstein understood it.

Rosnet
10-22-06, 05:29 AM
<A href="http://www.physicstoday.org/vol-58/iss-6/pdf/vol58no6p56_57.pdf">Here</A>.

Oniw17
10-22-06, 05:34 AM
Einstein was so cocky.

URI
10-23-06, 04:17 AM
Einstein was a fraud.

>> I tried to discuss at the Bright's forum, where people are both Darwin-evolutionists and Big Bang-creationists.
They attacked me with harassment in order to assassinate my character and integrity, and made fun of my discoveries. >>

so typical on the net.

and yes this is correct,

>> Proponents of Einstein have acted in a way that appears to corrupt the historical record.
As was typical of Einstein, he did not discover theories; he merely commandeered them. >>

worse than that, GR uses "time", as a real co-ordinate. This immediately invalidates the theory of GR.

URI
10-23-06, 05:53 AM
S. Ingvar
a theory of everything is supposed to reconcile EM radiation and gravity.

What is your explanation for gravity ?

cato
10-23-06, 06:39 AM
worse than that, GR uses "time", as a real co-ordinate. This immediately invalidates the theory of GR.
how is that? if I say I will meet you at the corner of x-street and y-drive, on he second floor, at 3pm, I just gave you 4 equally valid coordinates 3 spatial and one time.

URI
10-23-06, 06:50 AM
>> how is that?

Yes you are correct, in an "active" sense.

But as a desert without people is timeless so is a Universe without action timeless.

Time is manifest by action. We (living things) are action/consequence instigators, that makes us different to the material world.

We use time to analyse consequence, in the same way we use length etc..
But these mental concepts do not exist in reality.

Physical laws predicated with time are only transitory.

The laws of physics that are devoid of time constraints are the most basic.
If you construct a law(s) of the Universe it has to be outside time.

Otherwise all type of contradictions arise, such as the beginning of time (Big Bang), singularities etc.

Physics is to step outside the constraints of anthropomorphic reasoning.

S.Ingvar
10-23-06, 06:55 AM
S. Ingvar
a theory of everything is supposed to reconcile EM radiation and gravity.

What is your explanation for gravity ?
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I will give a better answer later, when I have time to give a deeper insight.
But, I can say now that I have read the papers and analysed the experiment by Pound and Rebka
Gravitational Red-shift in Nuclear Resonance (1959)
and Pound and Rebka Apparent Weight of Photons (1960)
and Pound and Snider "Effekt of Gravity on Gamma Radiation" (1965)
and I have found the right explanation to the gamma signals deplacement.
And, this effekt is not caused by gravitation, but by radiation entropy.
The conclusion in this paper by Rebka-Snider is:
The view that the local time scale depends on gravitational potential appears to require a coherent source for confirmation.
The present experiment is unable to distinguish between frequency changes and velocity changes, for example.
It appears as if an experimental comparison of clocks at different potential potential would make complementary contribution to the over-all statuof confirmation of theory.
They said in other words that they didn't understood their experiment, or how to interpret the mesurements from it.
I can explain it, with understandable, logical and beautiful relevant mathematics from the entropy-formula that I have discovered.

Ingvar, Sweden
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URI
10-23-06, 06:59 AM
Ingvar
I look forward to further discussion. It is late here.

I do like your logic and would wish to pursue it to deeper levels. Especially re red shifts.

I agree with Joseph J. Smulsky

my words
In reality there is only two forces, that is electric and magnetic. Gravity is a force resulting from the interaction of these two primary forces.

However, in effect the electric and the magnetic are the same force in different phases.

So in reality there is matter, motion and the [electric/magnetic||gravity] three phased force.

so until next time
goodnight

vx220
10-23-06, 08:26 AM
imagine two objects connected via a perfectly elastic string. the objects are able bounce of each other perfectly.
now, imagine you distance the two objects - raise the energy of the system and let go. the string would "attract" them back together, they would bounce off again perfectly, stretch the string, come to a stop and then attract again, bounce off and so on indefinitely.

the oscillation of the two objects can be perfectly described by a sinusoidal function. as the systems position changes - the angle of the sinusoidal function is increased - linearly. so, this oscillation is a simple linear motion - nothing special. but we do not see it soo, we see that the two objects increase speed just before bouncing, and decrease speed to a stop at the amplitude. we actually do see this. but fundamentaly it is linear motion. we see the objects accelerating and deccelerating through our perception of dimensions.

it is what needs to be understood and taken to the next level - 3d to build a unified theory. electromagnetism should comform to this also.
i am having trouble applying this way of thinking because its a bit mind melting, especially when contemplating how complicated systems in 3d or even 3d work.

cosmodel
10-23-06, 11:09 AM
He attacked QM. He never understood that QM is mostly correct and some revision or generalization is needed. But he never admitted that the curved spacetime might be totally wrong. He never admitted that his mathematics is not strong at all to propose the assumtion.

1919 elipse observation put him into the throne of god. He never admitted he is a humanbeing. He was lucky because his photon-electric explanation and SR could be proposed by other people a little time later. But his GR is totally a huge disaster to gravity and cosmology: black hole, Hawking, super string, Bang-Bang, inflation, instanton, shit,....

His great success is to gather many women as well as sinful authority around him, denying whatever alternative to GR and big-bang. Totally a dictator with following killers of the truth of the universe.

I will post my paper which claims that the assumption of curved spacetime is dead. I want to see if arxiv.org let me submitt it. Whatever arxiv does, I will distribute my paper to the whole world. Fortunately, this is the internet world, the dictatorship will finally be dead!!!!!!

vx220
10-23-06, 01:49 PM
Well...

As far as I know, both GR and SR have been used for example to predict and tune GPS atomic clocks "lateness" when they are positioned in orbiting sattelites. So, if Einstein is so wrong, how come his theories actually work to remarkable accuracy also while being deterministic?

cosmodel
10-23-06, 02:02 PM
That is why I want you wait for my paper!!!

URI
10-23-06, 05:16 PM
OK, well we all have theories. If you wish to body them out in overview, and constructively discuss each, it would be a great start to this new century.

Who is interested ????...my aim is to create anti-gravity
But first, What is gravity ?
and what causes it ?

dixonmassey
10-23-06, 09:23 PM
Unified Field Theory with a remark that has not a person who will perfect this his theory.
Do you think his remark true?

Considering that all kinds of fields is just a semi-empirical scientific crutch, disguising the lack of understanding of how nature works, the development of Unified Field Theory will change nothing. We'll just get a cool equation or two to fit/predict data, it will not add much understanding per se.

vx220
10-24-06, 07:48 AM
everything seems a bit smarter when the coordinate system is invalidated.

lets say our dimensions are distance(space) and motion. we can(and actually do) derive the time dimension by dividing distance with motion. time seems like a more basic thing to us, a logical pick for a dimension, but truth is, there is no real reason to pick one over the other, so we can just as well pick distance and motion.

why do i insist on distance and motion? distance and motion are sine and cosine of the same angle. so in effect the true dimensional property is the angle itself. we see the sine and cosine of the angle mapped to distance and motion, we derive time by dividing distance with motion and get our perceived dimensions of space and time. but in reality, it is a single property - the angle

einstein and others noticed space and time are somehow curved together that they are not clearly separate dimensions.
but they are actually not really "curved together", they are the same thing, sine and cosine of the same angle.

so, we need to start defining things from this different perspective, as all the wave motion, relativistic motion, gravity etc and everything seems to be easily defined through angular motion. an angle always maps to two of our perceived dimensions or fields which confuses us.. it is very confusing to have dimensions changing, stretching, compressing, mixing or whatever.

it would be need to realize how exactly all these basic angles manifest into our perceived dimensions, but the fundamental theory of everything should deal with angular properties and such simplified polar dimensions and from that we should map predictions to our dimensions to confirm by observation.

HiLe
10-25-06, 05:07 PM
Sounds rather selfish of him to say something like that in the first place, but maybe he never believed anyone ever did or would understand it like he did? Whatever the case I am sure if such a theory exists someone will come up with it eventually. Einstein was smart but so are many other people, and so will be many people.

Einstein is not selfish as you thought; he spent almost 25 years to find out a theory can help future scientists understand the mystery of universe that no theory be and will be compare with his Unified Field Theory.
Einstein was not successful in his theory, and we should continue to study this theory for the future of my next generation, not for Einstein.
I mind his remark just is a challenge to us, and then we should find out some reasons that cause the failure of Einstein better than deal with his individual.

HiLe