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View Full Version : Rethinking…Classic Mechanics will be Return
According to Webster’s New World, Dictionary of Science, page 542, “Quantum theory: testing Quantum theory”, by Peter Lafferty: “Quantum Theory must be wrong, Einstein said. Einstein was never comfortable with Quantum Theory; Einstein felt that behind the uncertainty of Quantum Theory there must be an exact reality.”
Max Planck of Quantum Theory created a revolution in science when he used the term "quanta" to disclaim the principle of Classic Mechanics, which was formed by Isaac Newton.
However, Einstein rejected the value of Quantum Theory; therefore, Einstein may predict a comeback of Classic mechanics!
Do you think the Classic Mechanics will be return, after Quantum Theory?
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Dinosaur 10-16-06, 11:10 PM HiLe: Your post indicates that you have a very common misconception about Planck & Einstein. Planck is given far too much credit for initiating the development of Quantum Theory and Einstein is given far less that he deserves. Those who know the early history and those who developed Quantum Theory (Bohr, Heisenberg, et al) did not give Planck much credit for the theory and are well aware of Einstein's critical role.
Without Einstein, Quantum theory might have been delayed as much as 5-10 years. He lost some well publicized argruments with Neils Bohr, which are better remembered than his early views on Quantum Theory.
Planck's paper on Black Body radiation is considered to have triggered the development of Quantum Theory. However, Planck had no clue about the implications of his work, and did little or nothing to develop Quantum Theory. Einstein was the first to realize the significance of Planck's paper and state that all energy was quantized. He is considered the true originator of Quantum Theory.
Almost every major physicist of his day initially called him a nut (using more politically correct terms) for his views on quantized energy. His was considered wrong for about two years, but gradually his views were accepted. After this controversy was resolved in his favor, he did little or no work relating to Quantum Theory for 10-15 or more years, during which time he was working on General Relativity.
When he once again started thinking about Quantum Theory, he objected to the probabilistic nature of its equations, believing that deterministic equations or principles would be discovered.
Many think that he would have changed his mind if he had concentrated on Quantum theory instead of trying to develop a Unified Field Theory. He almost certainly would have changed his mind had he lived long enough to see some of the experimental work in the last half of the 20th century.
HiLe: Your post indicates that you have a very common misconception about Planck & Einstein. Planck is given far too much credit for initiating the development of Quantum Theory and Einstein is given far less that he deserves. Those who know the early history and those who developed Quantum Theory (Bohr, Heisenberg, et al) did not give Planck much credit for the theory and are well aware of Einstein's critical role.
Without Einstein, Quantum theory might have been delayed as much as 5-10 years. He lost some well publicized argruments with Neils Bohr, which are better remembered than his early views on Quantum Theory.
Planck's paper on Black Body radiation is considered to have triggered the development of Quantum Theory. However, Planck had no clue about the implications of his work, and did little or nothing to develop Quantum Theory. Einstein was the first to realize the significance of Planck's paper and state that all energy was quantized. He is considered the true originator of Quantum Theory.
Almost every major physicist of his day initially called him a nut (using more politically correct terms) for his views on quantized energy. His was considered wrong for about two years, but gradually his views were accepted. After this controversy was resolved in his favor, he did little or no work relating to Quantum Theory for 10-15 or more years, during which time he was working on General Relativity.
When he once again started thinking about Quantum Theory, he objected to the probabilistic nature of its equations, believing that deterministic equations or principles would be discovered.
Many think that he would have changed his mind if he had concentrated on Quantum theory instead of trying to develop a Unified Field Theory. He almost certainly would have changed his mind had he lived long enough to see some of the experimental work in the last half of the 20th century.
Thanks you for your quote.
-Einstein is considered as a supporter to Quantum Theory in the initial of this theory, and then he might know some defects of Quantum Theory that others person cannot realize. Einstein seems to be right when he said Quantum Theory is wrong.
-The experiments work in the last half of 20th century just prove the right of Quantum Theory in the scope of atom or the structure of matter, not in the scope of universe that Einstein want to deal in his last life.
- If Einstein lived long enough to complete his Unified Field Theory, the world will be better than our world right now. Unified Field Theory would be an integration between advantages of Classical Mechanics, Quantum Theory and Relativity Theory.
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Thanks, I will careful in next post.
geodesic 10-25-06, 05:21 PM Do you think the Classic Mechanics will be return, after Quantum Theory?Classical mechanics and quantum mechanics are perfectly compatible theories, if you accept that classical mechanics is a large-scale approximation of quantum mechanics. Often, classical approximations can be recovered from quantum formulae by allowing ħ to tend to 0. The main problem with quantum mechanics is its lack of a way to describe gravity on the quantum scale.
cosmodel 10-26-06, 08:44 PM quantum mechanics IS combined with flat-spacetime classical mechanics.
See
He, J.: 2006a, http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0604084
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