Do we, as a community, have a moral obligation to let the authorities know about sderenzi?

I'm one sick bastard and I'm pretty numb to disturbing things, but there's something in sderenzi's way that says severe mental illness, possible danger to others.

Have I been had? Is he just a normal person out there to shock?

The obsession with Carmen. The obsession with rape. The compulsion to....?
I don't really want to know, to be honest.

Anyway, discuss.

ive already reported him, hasnt done much though has it

Police, FBI, type authorities.

The sciforums authorities.. well... you know.

Also.

sderenzi: You've told us before where you work. You've got your location and age in your profile. Don't you see the flaw in this?

Don't take this as a threat, because it's not. Can't you see you're leaving yourself a little bit open?

Bearing in mind you live in the US. You could probably get arrested for having expressed the desire to rape someone, however jokingly. What do I know?

I'm worried about you, to be honest. I must be having some strange hormonal thing going on.

I don't think reporting me is a good idea, hell I don't really even have anything I do after work, I go home and play on my PC :-P You guys are just sensitive when stuff isn't to your liking, then again so am I so ehh. The main point to make is whether freedom of speech can be stiffled or can people say anything to anyone? I never directly made specific statements, only generalized ones about the world, hell isn't that what we all do.

Humanity is a very complicated and unique organism, there is alot of change occuring in society overall, such is the way of things. If people aren't able to develop their own sense of self and continue to live then what's the ultimate goal of life? With people playing videogames that incite murder, violence, and films bringing to life even more such acts, who is the real danger? Myself or lack of values in the individual?

I submitt to you all that just because someone can do a thing does not mean that he must, nor does it mean he will.

PS I luV u!

I'm not worried phonetic, I know I don't do anything wrong and am a nice person, thus I am unafraid.

Maybe I am getting sensitive in my old age, but some of the things you say just aren't funny. You lack compassion.

You sympathised with the columbine killers and said that they had the courage to kill when you did not. And that you could see why they did it.

You seem to blame everything other than yourself. Just as the columbine kids did, and you agree with that view. There is nobody to blame for anything apart from yourself.

You constantly talk about rape.

You come out with some pretty sick stuff.

Why? Is that actually the first thing that comes to your mind?

Is it meant to be funny?

What is it?

It's a way of expressing a side that is not normally shown. However dear friend I assure you that's all that it is, in truth some postings I've done are actually quite good, for example the Handgun thread. That recieved quite a few replies.. now the question everyone must ask themselves is whether or not had that topic been about something other than Handguns would it still be seen as a good one? If it had been about rape or the like, then I feel it would be ignored since these topics lay outside the normal range of conversation, however sometimes they must be discussed simply because they are not.

I prefer logic an reasoning over boring topics that offer nothing to the individual except the same ole discussions.

In truth I'm becoming lost on ideas so have been posting some rather silly things, but it's not to say they really are seriously a threat to anyone. Words never hurt anything as far as I am aware.

I appreciate your reasonable nature though, you certainly are able to reflect on this well. I will try creating an ultimate poll and instead focuse my efforts on that instead of posting things people might disagree with :-Z

The only question is what the topic should be....

Maybe I am getting sensitive in my old age, but some of the things you say just aren't funny. You lack compassion.

"tickle my scrotum" never made me laugh, if that was the intention.

I feel sick every time I see that, a sign of a childish mind, not maturity, nor compassion.

"tickle my scrotum" never made me laugh, if that was the intention.

I feel sick every time I see that, a sign of a childish mind, not maturity, nor compassion.

What?! I don't ever recall saying that....

PS Did ya wanna go out for coffee sometime?

You sympathised with the columbine killers and said that they had the courage to kill when you did not. And that you could see why they did it.

So can the other fellow that voted it s0meguy. Are we both wrong or perhaps just honest...

renzi is a good chap.

"tickle my scrotum" never made me laugh, if that was the intention.

I feel sick every time I see that, a sign of a childish mind, not maturity, nor compassion.

You're missing the point.

There's nothing dangerous about "tickle my scrotum".
But, great. Now that you've got that across in a shitty way, whilst contributing fuck all to what I hope is a serious thread, I'll change it.

Any thoughts on the topic of the thread?

Operator "911 how can we help you today?"

Caller "Yeah, umm I'd like to report a threat from the internet."

Operator "Um yes, what sort of threat?"

Caller "Well this guy keeps posting threatening stuff on a science forum, he's really scary and dangerous".

Operator "Can you think of any specific statement in regards to a real person where he threatened their life or something similar?"

Caller "Yes, he threatens to rape all these woman and says he wants to bang them as they walk by."

Operator "And to your knowledge has he ever done this to any of them?"

Caller "Well no not exactly, he just says that he wants to."

Operator "Well we can look into the matter, I'll transfer you to the online investigations division."

Caller "Alright, thank you so very much."

---------------

Investigations "Hello this is brad mark, how can I assist you today."

Caller "Well there's a fellow online that's been posting some pretty scary stuff, he claims he wants to rape all woman and do this weird shit, can sympathize with the columbine killers, etc."

Investigations "Umm humm I see, do you have his name?"

Caller "Yes it's Sam and he lives in IL - USA".

Investigations "Alright, and what specifically has he said he's going to do?"

Caller "Nothing specifically, he just says that he might or would if under differenet circumstances."

Investigations "So let me ask, what exactly is your complaint?"

Caller "He's just weird, and I feel like he's a danger to society."

Investigations "Oh, I see... well has he done anything to your knowledge that can be considered dangerous?"

Caller "well not exactly, he just says dangerous stuff."

Investigations "Umm, well..."

Shall I continue? Do you really wanna waste your time with that ?

PS Eats pancakes

PS I luV u!

...I dare not lift a finger upon those who love me.

Something about you dragon is calming :o

Something about you dragon is calming :o

and ever lasting peace in ground, so calming, that there are no emotions left to feel.

Sderenzi, post #13 is one of the funniest things that I've read on Sciforums.

Operator "911 how can we help you today?"

Caller "Yeah, umm I'd like to report a threat from the internet."

............

Investigations "Umm, well..."

Shall I continue? Do you really wanna waste your time with that ?

PS Eats pancakes

You'd be surprised.

Anyway, you gave an interesting response.

Just be careful giving your real name, town you live and saying 'different' things on the internet. It could come back to bite you in the ass. And again, don't take it as a threat! :( Just.. I dunno..

I googled your name and indeed, came up with a lot of random shit. Aliens, your address inc zip code, different sites you've used your real name at and interestingly, your old sciforums acct and geocities with matching name.

http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?u=22243

Anyway. Delete this thread if you want, mods.

...i guess I should have told people around here...but I keep track of everyone...save the printscreen images....so everything is remembered.

http://www.spy-ops.com/images/SpyOpsleftimage.jpg

night.

night.

and day.

sderenzi (prick):

In the absence of a sex drive would they still rape someone? If not then it's the fact they are horney. If however they still do it then it's a need for power over another person.

So what do I think personally? I would say to you that all men are capable of raping a woman given the intense need for sex, hell if it weren't illegal I would be doing it LOL The only real reason you wouldn't wanna rape a girl is because it would make you feel less confident, less desired, and this my friends is why most guys won't. If you have to force a girl to mate it's not exactly nice to think about ehh?

Well I can't say I know tha answer to that one, but alas I do wanna tell you all I am so very attracted to younger woman, but once they speak I feel somewhat sick to my stomach, afterall a girl in highschool barely has any life, let alone one I'd like to become involved with. I still have fantasy's about going into the girls high school locker room and seeing them in panties and bras undressing for gym class, then again when they run away screaming I'd likely be put off by the sheer stupidity of the situation, let alone the arrest later on!

You know what I'd really like guys, a videogame where you can go around raping the woman in it! That would be so fun, imagine hearing them screaming "No, no, stop it, oh yea that feels good". LOL

I would sooo luV a game that you could basically go around banging chicks, imagine it... we can call it "Raping Heaven" and there would be houses on a block you could enter then attack the woman and bang them LOL. Later on little kids could pop out and try killing you for hurting their mum, haha.

Some of dickhead's threads:

Slavery Is Wrong?
Would You Rape A Hot Chick?
Are You Lonely?
Would You Have Sex With Someone Underage?
Is Incest Wrong?
Would You Kill Innocents For Fun?

Sick bastard.

sderenzi (prick)...dickhead's...Sick bastard.

The world is round. it all comes back to you.

The world is round. it all comes back to you.

huh?

I concur with dragons opinions on that!

I concur with dragons opinions on that!

You shouldn't. Because if the notion of what goes around, comes around were to apply to you and your thoughts and beliefs, then I pity you.

You shouldn't. Because if the notion of what goes around, comes around were to apply to you and your thoughts and beliefs, then I pity you.

...:cool: ... the same applies to you.


chat people w/ me: http://www.caliditta.com/chat/main.php

Bells, I haven't done anything but type, in reality my entire spectrum of interaction with humanity is very limited, thus what goes around is NOTHING but words, and so therefore words are all I will get back. You are kinda blowing things outta prospective cuz you desperately want me to be hurt for posting material you don't fancy :-O

...:cool: ... the same applies to you.


chat people w/ me: http://www.caliditta.com/chat/main.php

Yes it might apply to me also. However, I should be thankful I don't come out with crap like this:

As for her being given the date rape drug, well cry me a river, she was probably at a party and drank that bottle thinking it was water but damn she's fine, who wouldn't try raping her? I'm not saying I would, but if you were derranged enough to try something like that wouldn't you pick a fine young ass like that?

Her body is fine, hell for all we know she did bang before dying, that's somewhat reassuring since it at least means she didn't die for nothing (someone got laid). There's also the real issue here..... if someone did give HER the drug then why didn't they find semen inside her pussy? Perhaps she merely was thirsty and had picked up someone elses water???? That's sad...

I feel for the poor girl, but at the same time I also am sick. She is a hot, sexy thing, with alot of men that banged her likely, and I'm a loser virgin with no future... see my point?
Link (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=59244)


And you don't think he's got a problem? You don't think he described himself correctly when he referred to himself as a "loser"?

Bells, I haven't done anything but type, in reality my entire spectrum of interaction with humanity is very limited, thus what goes around is NOTHING but words, and so therefore words are all I will get back. You are kinda blowing things outta prospective cuz you desperately want me to be hurt for posting material you don't fancy :-O

We've told you before and I will try to repeat it to you again.

Get some help.

Professional help. Not help from polls on forums or in a forum at all for that matter. But actually go to a doctor and get some help. Because you seriously need it.

Bells :-P I've told everyone a few times on other threads I'm on antidepressants, seeing a psychiatrist, and seeing a therapist. All you can do is continue telling me to see one even though I am?! In fact I see 2 doctors the psyche an ther, so what's the reasoning that I'm nuts now? You're the one that can't handle a little somethin somethin, I suggest you get help so you can deal more with things you dislike. Then again I also am working on this so ehh :-Z~

My therapist usually says these things I think up aren't so bad, that infact the only way they're very terrible is if I make them bigger deals and all encompassing in my life, if I live normally and work an stuff he don't see what the big deal is, you shouldn't either :-Z

lets discuss it here: http://www.caliditta.com/chat/main.php

Why?

And what's with advertising that chat site in just about every post you make now Draq?

Why?

And what's with advertising that chat site in just about every post you make now Draq?

yes you are right. I am wrong. I will not advertise it. Messages deleted.

Bells :-P I've told everyone a few times on other threads I'm on antidepressants, seeing a psychiatrist, and seeing a therapist. All you can do is continue telling me to see one even though I am?! In fact I see 2 doctors the psyche an ther, so what's the reasoning that I'm nuts now? You're the one that can't handle a little somethin somethin, I suggest you get help so you can deal more with things you dislike. Then again I also am working on this so ehh :-Z~

My therapist usually says these things I think up aren't so bad, that infact the only way they're very terrible is if I make them bigger deals and all encompassing in my life, if I live normally and work an stuff he don't see what the big deal is, you shouldn't either :-Z

Right.

You read about a girl dying after accidently drinking ecstasy and comment about her probably being gang raped and it seems even wishing it because you just don't get any sex, and how you think the Columbine killers were courageous, not to mention your obsession with sex.. And you think I have a problem? Ermm ok.

I'd suggest getting a second opinion in regards to your therapy, because from where I'm sitting, it does not appear to be going so well.

Well honey that's because you're not a trained therapist, mine actually has degrees that tell him what is acceptable or not, and the DSM, not to mention clinical experience. On the other hand what guides your suggestions are only your personal beliefs, not so much of a good idea to listen to that!

Well honey that's because you're not a trained therapist, mine actually has degrees that tell him what is acceptable or not, and the DSM, not to mention clinical experience. On the other hand what guides your suggestions are only your personal beliefs, not so much of a good idea to listen to that!

Its good idea to listen to anything you can listen to and than judge upon that, based on facts and majority.

Everything that he types could just as easily be fiction. There not necessarily any correlation between an on-line personna and reality.

I concur, thanks :-)

Actually, you cannot be charged with saying you might want to rape someone. That is not a crime. Giving explicit plans and strong intent to do so might be, but even then, it would be hard to get a conviction.

Sderenzi is just a lonely bastard that needs to grow some balls.

I suggest his father buy him a whore or something.

I suggest his father buy him a whore or something.

...How would that benefit the society we live in? What figure will the kids of the future look to...with such a persona on the same block?

Right.

You read about a girl dying after accidently drinking ecstasy and comment about her probably being gang raped and it seems even wishing it because you just don't get any sex, and how you think the Columbine killers were courageous, not to mention your obsession with sex..

And what do we in practice actually do - reward inappropriate thinking with attention which, for a person who describes themselves as being lonely is, exactly what they want.

That's why sderenzi does these things - acts dumb, acts callous, acts somewhat disturbed - he actually is quite bright and he's running us basically.

I'm not suggesting for a second here saying or even suggesting he's actually healthy in the head - quite the contrary actually - but he's smart in a certain predatory, animal cunning sort of a way - and that's where you're getting the bad vibe from.

Not what he's actually saying, you're picking up a peep at the mind behind it. Therapy isn't going to do squat for this one.

Investigations "Hello this is brad mark, how can I assist you today."

Caller "Well there's a fellow online that's been posting some pretty scary stuff, he claims he wants to rape all woman and do this weird shit, can sympathize with the columbine killers, etc."

Investigations "Umm humm I see, do you have his name?"

Caller "Yes it's Sam and he lives in IL - USA".


more like:

that SOB lives at 1486 shagbark drive, go beat his ass!

Do we, as a community, have a moral obligation to let the authorities know about sderenzi?

They'd probably recruit him.

Do we, as a community, have a moral obligation to let the authorities know about sderenzi?
you don't think the mods or admins can read?
I'm one sick bastard and I'm pretty numb to disturbing things, but there's something in sderenzi's way that says severe mental illness, possible danger to others.
and there hasn't been posters like that in the past?
Have I been had? Is he just a normal person out there to shock?
no, he isn't normal. no, i do not consider him a threat.
The obsession with Carmen. The obsession with rape. The compulsion to....?
I don't really want to know, to be honest.
Anyway, discuss.
well sderenzi? anything in your defense?

In defense of sderenzi I say the same as I'd say to him:

Get a life.

You shouldn't. Because if the notion of what goes around, comes around were to apply to you and your thoughts and beliefs, then I pity you.

and who made you captain of the thought police?

you don't think the mods or admins can read?
I think they keep the place ticking over, but that's about it, to be honest. Why should the responsibility fall to the admins?

and there hasn't been posters like that in the past?
There's a line and 99% of people don't bound across it, quite the way our chum, sderenzi does. Most people who come out with 'different' things seem to have a grasp of that and push as far as they can towards the line, and maybe once in a while step over it. To me it seems as though he means what he says and it's a bit of a worry.

no, he isn't normal. no, i do not consider him a threat.
In what way don't you consider him normal then, if he isn't a threat, in the context of this thread?

well sderenzi? anything in your defense?

Another thing I'd say, which I've said before, is that he's put his full name, where he lives and where he works on the net, in full public view. This wouldn't be so dodgy if it weren't for the things he says. It seems like he's playing with fire a little bit. Even if he's not a complete loon and isn't a threat, there are many people that are and if something sderenzi's said has got their backs up, it wouldn't be hard for them to bring it to his door.

Brandeis said, "The best disinfectant is sunshine."

The purpose of free speech is to encourage the cockroaches to crawl out from under the linoleum so we can keep track of them. If we start squashing them they'll crawl back under the linoleum.

If you're going to report someone to the police for something he wrote on a website that gets a lot of wacky postings, you had better be damn sure that your hunch is correct. I doubt that any of us geeky misfits here has the social skills to figure that out.

Boo hoo phonetic.

Don't be such a pussy.