Andre
01-25-06, 09:13 AM
There is a new study about Earth albedo
http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_818.php
So what’s up?
Less sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface has not translated into cooler temperatures, according to a team of solar physicists at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT). The scientists, who monitor the Earth’s reflectance by measuring what is known as the moon’s earthshine, have observed that the amount of light reflected by Earth — its albedo — has increased since 2000. The result has been less sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface.
“Our findings have significant implications for the study of climate change,” said Philip R. Goode, PhD, principal investigator and distinguished professor of physics at NJIT. “The results raise questions about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased.”
Emphasis mine. So another scary story, errm? In other words, global warming full speed ahead despite the “dimming” of clouds. But what is the real story?
The study is: E. Pallé, P R. Goode, P. Montañés rodriguez, SE. Koonin (2006) Can Earth’s Albedo and Surface Temperatures Increase Together? Eos, Vol. 87, No. 4, 24 January 2006
It boils all down to fig 2 with it’s original caption:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/albedo-temp.GIF
The concern is about the leveling off of the cloud induced albedo changes after 1997 but what are the global temperatures doing? On the top left are the global GISS temp in the same period.
Source here (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/ZonAnn.Ts+dSST.txt)
Now check the correlation of those two graphs down left. Not that bad at all. So where are those renegade last few years causing that all important question “about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased”?
Follow the dotted line. 1984 starts top left and the last dots are bottom right. And actually those last few dots are closest to the trend!! meaning that the last few years are behaving very closely to the general relationship between albedo and temperature.
““about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased”???
But the current temperatures are not rising at all. That's only in the mind of the scaremongers. So this is baloney. Misleading propaganda for global warming. Of course the authors are honest and try there best. But they could have done what I did, just checking if it was really true. But instead they elicted to charge ahead against the imaginary anthropogenic global warming.
We now also understand why it has been a bit warmer the last few decade and a half, more sun.
http://www.njit.edu/publicinfo/press_releases/release_818.php
So what’s up?
Less sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface has not translated into cooler temperatures, according to a team of solar physicists at New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT). The scientists, who monitor the Earth’s reflectance by measuring what is known as the moon’s earthshine, have observed that the amount of light reflected by Earth — its albedo — has increased since 2000. The result has been less sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface.
“Our findings have significant implications for the study of climate change,” said Philip R. Goode, PhD, principal investigator and distinguished professor of physics at NJIT. “The results raise questions about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased.”
Emphasis mine. So another scary story, errm? In other words, global warming full speed ahead despite the “dimming” of clouds. But what is the real story?
The study is: E. Pallé, P R. Goode, P. Montañés rodriguez, SE. Koonin (2006) Can Earth’s Albedo and Surface Temperatures Increase Together? Eos, Vol. 87, No. 4, 24 January 2006
It boils all down to fig 2 with it’s original caption:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/bijkerk/albedo-temp.GIF
The concern is about the leveling off of the cloud induced albedo changes after 1997 but what are the global temperatures doing? On the top left are the global GISS temp in the same period.
Source here (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/ZonAnn.Ts+dSST.txt)
Now check the correlation of those two graphs down left. Not that bad at all. So where are those renegade last few years causing that all important question “about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased”?
Follow the dotted line. 1984 starts top left and the last dots are bottom right. And actually those last few dots are closest to the trend!! meaning that the last few years are behaving very closely to the general relationship between albedo and temperature.
““about how global temperatures can still rise when the amount of sunlight reaching the surface has decreased”???
But the current temperatures are not rising at all. That's only in the mind of the scaremongers. So this is baloney. Misleading propaganda for global warming. Of course the authors are honest and try there best. But they could have done what I did, just checking if it was really true. But instead they elicted to charge ahead against the imaginary anthropogenic global warming.
We now also understand why it has been a bit warmer the last few decade and a half, more sun.