Just curious. How does our Christian, Hindu and Muslim bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived, the possibilty of an A.I. coming into existence in the next 20 years and the possibility of alien life?

~String

Why would hindu have a problem with dinosaurs?

Some religions don't have logical explanations. Some do. But dinosaurs are only ONE of the factors I mentioned.

~String

The same applies to others you mentioned. I don't understand why hindus would have to explain dinosaurs, A.I., and everything else differently than the academic world. They have no problem with evolution, science, etc.

In general, people of faith do not find any conflict with their religion in the concept of their god working through the mechanism of evolution. After all, their god did create a universe that is orderly and predictable enough for his children to make their way through it without having to stop every ten minutes and beg for guidance in the most prosaic matters. So he built an infrastructure that includes the Four Elementary Forces, relativity, the uncertainty principle... and evolution. "The Cosmic Watchmaker," to use an old term. The pope has commanded his flock to accept evolution and indeed just about every "hard" science. Protestant and Jewish leaders do not command but they urge. I'll let the Hindus and Muslims speak for themselves but I've never met one who had a problem with evolution.

I have no idea how they feel about A.I. But since most of them don't even believe that really intelligent animals like parrots, gorillas and dolphins have souls, I doubt that they'll lose any sleep over a machine cleverly designed by humans to emulate cognition.

I have met plenty religious people that dont believe evolution is true.
Strangely, most DO believe the dinosaurs existed.. :bugeye:

I think Catholicism accepts evolution and descent with modification (although not my wife, seemingly) so dinos shouldn't be a problem.

A lot of people seem to have created something like a private religion. They still belong to a given religion but they are doing away what stuff they dont like and adopt some views that they do like... etc.
You get the picture.

In a previous life, I was a T-Rex

A lot of people seem to have created something like a private religion. They still belong to a given religion but they are doing away what stuff they dont like and adopt some views that they do like... etc.
You get the picture.

I think it's sometimes called: conscience.

I have met plenty religious people that dont believe evolution is true.

Pretty much every straight-forward Christian I know denies evolution. I'm not even 100% sold on it yet.


Strangely, most DO believe the dinosaurs existed.. :bugeye:

Wait, what? You find it strange that people would believe in dinosaurs?

To answer the original question, Christians believe that dinosaurs existed, they're described in the Bible. Now, what happened to them, who knows?

As for A.I., I don't see why that would be an issue.

And Alien life, I think most Christians deny that more or less because they feel that they, as humans on Earth, are unique and therefore the only life in the Universe.

Pretty much every straight-forward Christian I know denies evolution. I'm not even 100% sold on it yet.



Wait, what? You find it strange that people would believe in dinosaurs?

To answer the original question, Christians believe that dinosaurs existed, they're described in the Bible. Now, what happened to them, who knows?

As for A.I., I don't see why that would be an issue.

And Alien life, I think most Christians deny that more or less because they feel that they, as humans on Earth, are unique and therefore the only life in the Universe.

I find it strange that a religious person would believe in dinosaurs but not in evolution.
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Hmm i see, they believe the dinosaurs were around together with humans (!)

OOH, that's the angle. I thought you meant they denied the existence of dinosaurs.

Oh, well then. Well, with my experience with Christians, the majority I know don't think they existed at the same time, or they rarely even think about the topic. I think those that think they walked the Earth at the same time are the more hardcore Creationist groups.

OOH, that's the angle. I thought you meant they denied the existence of dinosaurs.

Oh, well then. Well, with my experience with Christians, the majority I know don't think they existed at the same time, or they rarely even think about the topic. I think those that think they walked the Earth at the same time are the more hardcore Creationist groups.

Its still strange to me that they accept that the dinosaurs were around before mankind. According to the bible the dinosaurs shouldnt have existed before mankind, nothing actually did.
Oh well, im not counting the few days the dinosaurs might have had on us according to the 6 days in which God created the haevens & earth and everything on it.

Its still strange to me that they accept that the dinosaurs were around before mankind. According to the bible the dinosaurs shouldnt have existed before mankind, nothing actually did.
Oh well, im not counting the few days the dinosaurs might have had on us according to the 6 days in which God created the haevens & earth and everything on it.

What do you mean? Of course there were animals around before mankind. Evolutionists and Creationist both agree there were animals here first, then man. Just different ways between them.

What are you talking about?! Humans are animals, members of the kingdom animalia.

Just curious. How does our Christian, Hindu and Muslim bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived, the possibilty of an A.I. coming into existence in the next 20 years and the possibility of alien life?

~String

I'm a Muslim and I believe (hehe) in hard science, no problems here.

Though I have had some interesting chats with Muslims who adopt the anti-evolution stand. :p

What do you mean? Of course there were animals around before mankind. Evolutionists and Creationist both agree there were animals here first, then man. Just different ways between them.

Look, the creationists view and the evolutionists view on this matter are miles apart, you aint gonna call them similar now are you ?
According to the bible God created everything in six days. True, he created the animals before man. But we are talking days here.
Thats hardly reconcilable with the millions of years evolutionists are talking about.

You either belief the bible that says everything was created in 6 days or you go with the scientific explanation (meaning evolution).
You just cant say "dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, but a few thousand years ago God created everything". Where did they dinosaurs come from then ? Created by the previous God ? :p No logic there.

What are you talking about?! Humans are animals, members of the kingdom animalia.

100% truth.

I'm a Muslim and I believe (hehe) in hard science, no problems here.

Though I have had some interesting chats with Muslims who adopt the anti-evolution stand. :p

What is the anti-evolution stand ? Does that involve creationism ?

Look, the creationists view and the evolutionists view on this matter are miles apart, you aint gonna call them similar now are you ?
According to the bible God created everything in six days. True, he created the animals before man. But we are talking days here.
Thats hardly reconcilable with the millions of years evolutionists are talking about.

You either belief the bible that says everything was created in 6 days or you go with the scientific explanation (meaning evolution).
You just cant say "dinosaurs existed millions of years ago, but a few thousand years ago God created everything". Where did they dinosaurs come from then ? Created by the previous God ? :p No logic there.

No, I agree with all that. I think I was just misinterpreting what you were trying to say.

the bible doesn't say when the world was created, so christians should have no problem with dinosaurs. according to the bible there was giant humans (gen6:4), so why not giant animals too?

i like the egyptian creation story: it says that the sun dies in the evening, then it is reborn again in the morning. this means that the world is not created in the past, it is created every day. that's what i believe.

the bible doesn't say when the world was created, so christians should have no problem with dinosaurs. according to the bible there was giant humans (gen6:4), so why not giant animals too?

i like the egyptian creation story: it says that the sun dies in the evening, then it is reborn again in the morning. this means that the world is not created in the past, it is created every day. that's what i believe.

Some theists have attempted to calculate from the bible when the world was created, and they seem convinced that it happened some 6000 years ago.

There is a difference in liking the idea of a particular belief and actually believing it.

Some theists have attempted to calculate from the bible when the world was created, and they seem convinced that it happened some 6000 years ago.

they were fools. the world isn't created in time, it's created in 7 steps.

There is a difference in liking the idea of a particular belief and actually believing it.

i both like it and believe it. i even know it.

they were fools. the world isn't created in time, it's created in 7 steps.



i both like it and believe it. i even know it.

Just saying..

There's always the good old view that they were placed by god and/or the devil to trick us... (http://b3ta.com/board/7291325)

Yeah right lol :p

Just curious. How does our Christian, Hindu and Muslim bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived, the possibilty of an A.I. coming into existence in the next 20 years and the possibility of alien life?

Hinduism, or more accurately, Sanatana Dharma is a philosophy and not a belief system. Therefore there is no conflict with science. Even the Puranas and other story books talk about different planets, intelligent creatures and space ships, teleporters etc. Where there is such advanced technologies, it needs Intelligent Systems (A.I.s). So NO conflict there.

I have met plenty religious people that dont believe evolution is true.
Strangely, most DO believe the dinosaurs existed.. :bugeye:

You dont need evolution to have occurred for dinosaurs to have existed... only for other species to have developed from them.

And Alien life, I think most Christians deny that more or less because they feel that they, as humans on Earth, are unique and therefore the only life in the Universe.

What about angels??? surely to the christian mind that would qualify as non human life elsewhere in the universe.

You dont need evolution to have occurred for dinosaurs to have existed... only for other species to have developed from them.

LOL It's besides the point really but how on earth do you suggest the dinosaurs came to be then ?

LOL It's besides the point really but how on earth do you suggest the dinosaurs came to be then ?

I personally am not suggesting anything (I believe in evolution). But we can just as easily say "there was a dinosaur" as "there was a microscopic cell" or "there was a lump of rock" or "there was a density". As soon as you start with "there was a..." you are not expalining the origin of anything.

One could equally suggest that at one point there were a far greater number of species in the world and alot of them have died out. That would explain fossils and allow belief in dinosaurs without the need for evolution. (if one where a christian:shrug:)

I personally am not suggesting anything (I believe in evolution). But we can just as easily say "there was a dinosaur" as "there was a microscopic cell" or "there was a lump of rock" or "there was a density". As soon as you start with "there was a..." you are not expalining the origin of anything.

One could equally suggest that at one point there were a far greater number of species in the world and alot of them have died out. That would explain fossils and allow belief in dinosaurs without the need for evolution. (if one where a christian:shrug:)

Ok, I see what you mean. But that doesn't change the fact that one must be pretty delusional to not believe in evolution in one form or another.

Just curious. How does our Christian, Hindu and Muslim bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived, the possibilty of an A.I. coming into existence in the next 20 years and the possibility of alien life?

~String

I hope you realize by now superstring, any answer from me will be scientific jargon dipped in christian religion... Only thing is, i'm expendable with certain theories concerning religion...

Dinosaurs (terrible-lizards)
1. And Satan was a lizard was he not? And in the Bible it says, ''and the Earth was formless and Dark...''
Well, if light resembles good, then dark is evil, so what was this evil on earth? I think it was the Dinosaurs... some interesting correlations between the satanic serpent, the dinosaurs and the concept of a religious darkness.

2. Artificial Intelligence does not go against my God, or christianity for that matter.

3. Aliens eh?... well, there is an infinite amount of space, and an infinite amount of matter probable, and the universe has infinite possibilities - thus, should we be so selfish to presume we are the only intelligent beings? In an infinite universe, we should have infinite expectations...

Reiku :m:

Just curious. How does our Christian ... bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived
http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml

Just curious. How does our Christian, Hindu and Muslim bretheren here explain the dinosaurs and when they lived, the possibilty of an A.I. coming into existence in the next 20 years and the possibility of alien life?

~StringI once dated a fundamental Christian. Man she was HOT. Anyway, RE: dinosaurs; according to her fossilized dinosaur bones are fake, they were made by Satan and his minions to test Good Christians faith. Well she isn't buying into it. Nope.

The possibility that Dinosaurs ever lived does not exist in her Christian World.

Michael