Reality as wave-particle

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  1. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Isaac Newton thought that light was made of very small things that we would now call particles (he referred to them as "Corpuscles"). Christiaan Huygens thought that light was made of waves. Scientists thought that a thing cannot be a particle and a wave at the same time.

    Scientists did experiments to find out whether light was made of particles or waves. They found out that both ideas were right — light was somehow both waves and particles. The Double-slit experiment performed by Thomas Young showed that light must act like a wave. The Photoelectric effect discovered by Albert Einstein proved that light had to act like particles that carried specific amounts of energy, and that the energies were linked to their frequencies. This experimental result is called the "wave-particle duality" in quantum mechanics. Later, physicists found out that everything behaves both like a wave and like a particle, not just light. However, this effect is much smaller in large objects.

    -Simple Wikipedia.

    The wave-particle duality concept demonstrates that everything, and I mean everything, has a wave-particle duality make-up to it.
     
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  3. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Universal wavefunction

    The Universal Wavefunction or Universal Wave Function is a term introduced by Hugh Everett in his Princeton PhD thesis[1] The Theory of the Universal Wave Function, and forms a core concept in the relative state interpretation[2][3] or many-worlds interpretation[4][5] of quantum mechanics. It has also received more recent investigation from James Hartle and Stephen Hawking[6] in which they derive a specific solution to the Wheeler-deWitt equation to explain the initial conditions of the Big Bang cosmology.

    Everett's thesis introduction reads:

    Since the universal validity of the state function description is asserted, one can regard the state functions themselves as the fundamental entities, and one can even consider the state function of the entire universe. In this sense this theory can be called the theory of the "universal wave function," since all of physics is presumed to follow from this function alone.[7]

    The universal wave function is the wavefunction or quantum state of the totality of existence, regarded as the "basic physical entity"[8] or "the fundamental entity, obeying at all times a deterministic wave equation"[9]

    -Wikipedia.
     
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    Wave is real.
     
  8. river

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    So is the particle(s) that make the wave possible
     
  9. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. As is the energy which determines its frequency and vice versa.
     
  10. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    E=hf.

    Reality is determined.
     
  11. river

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    Fascinating

    Can we though compare the wave of the ocean and the crest , to particle and sub-particle dynamics
     
  12. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Reality itself is a wave. So yes.
     
  13. cav755 Banned Banned

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    In a boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and the bow wave passes through both.

    In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the wave in the aether exits both slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the paritlce travels. Strongly detecting the particle destroys the cohesion between the particle and its associated wave in the aether and the particle continues on the trajectory it was traveling.

    A boat has a bow wave.
    The surfer rides the ocean wave.

    The particle of wave-particle duality is both boat and surfer.
     
  14. river

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    Then the crest of the wave are particles of the wave
     
  15. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    You are correct.
     
  16. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Aether is above the terrestrial sphere if I'm not mistaken.
     
  17. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Welcome to sciforums cav755.
     
  18. cav755 Banned Banned

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    Aether exists where particles of matter do not, including the space in a proton unoccupied by the quarks.

    Watch the following video starting at 0:45.

    "Empty space is not empty"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4D6qY2c0Z8

    A boiling, bubbling brew of virtual particles, with mass, popping into and out of existence is superfluous; aether has mass, exists where the quarks do not and is displaced from where the quarks are.

    A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
     
  19. cav755 Banned Banned

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    Thanks.
     
  20. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I love it!
     
  21. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Cav,

    I totally agree that space is not some empty backdrop but a substance of some sort, else it could not be warped. And I love the idea of the aether.
     
  22. cav755 Banned Banned

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    Exactly.

    "The word 'ether' has extremely negative connotations in theoretical physics because of its past association with opposition to relativity. This is unfortunate because, stripped of these connotations, it rather nicely captures the way most physicists actually think about the vacuum. . . . Relativity actually says nothing about the existence or nonexistence of matter pervading the universe, only that any such matter must have relativistic symmetry. [..] It turns out that such matter exists. About the time relativity was becoming accepted, studies of radioactivity began showing that the empty vacuum of space had spectroscopic structure similar to that of ordinary quantum solids and fluids. Subsequent studies with large particle accelerators have now led us to understand that space is more like a piece of window glass than ideal Newtonian emptiness. It is filled with 'stuff' that is normally transparent but can be made visible by hitting it sufficiently hard to knock out a part. The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo." - Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University

    Matter, a piece of window glass and stuff have mass.

    In a double slit experiment it is the stuff which waves.

    "any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium ... If a hidden sub-quantum medium is assumed, knowledge of its nature would seem desirable. It certainly is of quite complex character. It could not serve as a universal reference medium, as this would be contrary to relativity theory." - Louis de Broglie, Nobel Laureate in Physics

    "According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense." - Albert Einstein, Nobel Laureate in Physics

    The relativistic ether referred to by Laughlin is the hidden sub-quantum medium referred to by de Broglie is the ether which propagates light referred to by Einstein.

    What is referred to as the curvature of spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

    Aether has mass. Aether is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

    Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

    The state of displacement of the aether is gravity.

    A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.
     
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    I totally agree that space/time is not empty....
    I totally agree in its reality, rather then the idiotic idea of just being some perception in someones mind......
    As mentioned in can be warped, curved, twisted, energy extracted from it [Casimir effect] and the unknown component we call DE or the CC, that accelerates it in its expansion rate.
    But the aether as presented by our obsessed friend does not exist, and gravity does not work the way he has presented it on other threads.
     

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