Rascism!

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by lucifers angel, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    I am not racist at all, in fact i am quite the oposite but, being welsh i am open to many anti welsh jokes and name calling, so are the irish, scotish, but we just walk away from it and forget about it, and it is not against the law to make anti irish, scotish, welsh jokes, but it is against the law to make anti black jokes, anti muslim jokes, anti asian jokes, why the double standards?

    surely what's good for one is good for the other?

    your thoughts?

    example: you can get expelled from school for calling someone a nigger, paki, and saying anti black jokes, but if you call a welsh person sheep shagger and dare make a complaint about it your called "soft"
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    The American take on that either includes or doesn't (depends on what side you're on) empowerment assessments. If blacks were the empowered majority and whites had suffered under slavery, it would go the other way around. If women's empowerment reflected their statistical majority and men routinely suffered the subordinate role—woman is, after all, the nigger of the world—so would the customary prohibition. If Jews were the statistical majority and Christians had been torched to a foundering population in World War II ....

    And so on, and so on. In other words, think of the "angry white Christian male". There's a reason so many of us don't feel sorry for them. White Christian male? Empowered, empowered, empowered. Many feel what they're angry about is losing the comfort of supremacy.

    And empowerment is something people tend to overlook, in large part because the complaint is poorly expressed. For instance, some people don't recognize Carlos Mencias as a genius and a legitimate consideration for the American discussion because he's not. The humor is intended to be crude, violative of boundaries, and, to a certain degree, offensive. And yet, if it fulfills its goal of offending the people he hopes to piss off, his fans all complain. So why does Carlos get to do it? Because he's a prig, and he knows it, and he doesn't care. Anyone can do it under those terms. The problem is when the rest of us are expected to treat exploitative provocateurs who don't care about their contributions to social ignorance as if they are legitimate and respectable.
     
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  5. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    blacks kept each other has slaves aswell, so why should white people pay for somthing that happened years ago?
     
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  7. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Welsh, Irish, Scottish, and English are all the same race, but differing nationalities that's why. Although 'paki' seems to be based on nationality, rather than race.

    But anyway, in Australia they call the English 'Whinging Poms', in Germany, they take the piss out of Bavarians, so it happens all over. I think it would be sad if we got so PC we lost any semblance of cultural differences, and could not make light hearted remarks.

    I mean, I'm 1/16th French, and I think the term 'Cheese eating Surrender Monkey' is hilarious.
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I wish you lot of woolybacks and bogtrotters could just get over yourselves. Honestly, you whine like a pack of bloody oatmeal savages sometimes.
     
  9. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    but white people can be fined for rascist remarks why not black people?
     
  10. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    I constantly bag the crap out of the 2 heads (tasmanians) and the sheep rooters. Why can i get away with it? firstly because all the state pick at eachother

    Melbourne depise Sydney who hates her back (of course Sydney is wrong

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    SA hate Vic but Victorians could care less, to busy with Sydney
    Everyone thinks that tassie is full of inbreed two heads
    and most people think the only thing Queensland is good for is locking up the rednecks

    As for the bloody poms who cant even beat us at there own game (cricket) they whine to much and there beer is to hot and the NZ'ers are WAY to in love with there sheep.
    Oh and the rest of the world can "BUGGER OFF"

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    Now that i have got my state and countries racial and state based bias i can state the case that mostly its because you (and we too) are all the same "race", Its not racial when you have state to state tentions and its not racial when you have closly linked countries niggling at eachother. The majority of people here would have at least SOME english, irish, cornish and welsh blood in them (hell that is exactly my mix i think). How can it be taken as a serious insult when the people your picking on are the same as you anyway

    However blacks in the past (and still today) havent been treated as the same as us. Native populations were hunted for sport by the British or enslaved. No one knows how many tasmanian aborigionals were slaughtered when the British invaders arived but it was a massive amount and its a stain on this country that should never be forgoten. How many blacks were taken out of Africa and sold in the Americas?

    As for muslims we take there resorces and when they resist what do we do? we profile them as "evil demonic muslims" (thanks to sandy for the quote). We say that they are just religious fanatics when its plainly ovious that there goals are political not religious. We throw in red harings about virgins to seperate US from THEM and then we try to say "we are not atacking them based on there religion"

    This is why jokes about these groups just arnt funny, because they drag the bitterness up for these people again and again. However how many Irish would be offened if i said "the Irish built a new sub today with all new features, it had windscreen wipers and a flywire door"
     
  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Difficult to separate the political from the religious in many forms of islam, Asguard. Merely look at religous laws in islamic nations. Separation of mosque and state is unknown to the ummah, with the exception of enlightened individuals.
     
  12. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    white people were used has slaves aswell you know, we were treated badly by the black people, and are continuning to be treated badly aswell
     
  13. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Racism is racism. The direction is all accident of history.
     
  14. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    but why should the white people pay? (NOT saying taht all white people are perfect, NOT saying all black people are self thinking assholes)
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know that any particular people pay.
     
  16. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    not pay has in, pay money pay has in emotionaly, we have aready said "sorry" for the years of slavery, (which was a total farce in itself)
     
  17. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    GeoffP i wasnt talking about Politics with a capital P i was talking about politics with a lower case p. Religion maybe a tool used but when the complaints are about land and resorces your talking political goals
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    You never know how anyone will take what you say funny or not. Just because others may have a great sense of humor not everyone does in our world today and some might even be insulted if you made fun of them somehow. The best way to tell ethnic jokes is to tell them only to people who you know that are people who know that you are only joking or else you could be classified a racist. Better to err on the side of safety than to be scorned at all.

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  19. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    You know the word 'graft' as in 'hard day's graft' as used by the working class? It's a slave term. Captured enemies were used to dig hill fortifications in neolithic times. 'Grafting' is the process of building the wall and dyke, literally taking soil from one place, and putting it somewhere else (like a skin 'graft').

    Interesting that a slave term is still in use amongst the working classes all these years later. I should hope this is just a cultural thing, and that today's working class aren't overly related to those slaves.
     
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    Multiculturalism is necessary to promote values which advance economic globalization and create greater corporate profits.
     
  21. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    I missed that comment the first time i read your post LA. I never realsied that the welsh were refered to as sheep rooters. I've only ever herd the term applied to NZers (thats how i have used it

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  22. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    sheep shaggers! thats what they call us welsh people
     
  23. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    You know whats funny about NZers being called sheep rooters, there are actually more head of sheep per captia in Australia than NZ

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    But thats probaly because they are worried the sheep will be jelouse if they bring home another date

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    My partner has a great joke about NZ'ers and there love of sheep but i cant think of it off the top of my head
     

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