View Full Version : Random Thoughts (on a few different subjects)


BSFilter
04-17-06, 08:18 PM
The following is a just a small list of the all the random things that my brain thinks of throughout the day. I am constantly making associations, and relating things together that would normally appear to have no connection, even when I dont want/mean to. So please take with a grain of salt...

Duality of All Things, and the Patterns of Life
It seems to me with every passing day of my life, that just about everything has an opposite, something which cannot exist without the other. However this is not limited to just pairs of things, in which case one may observe a pattern, or cycle. I believe EVERYTHING has a cycle, for if something has a beginning then it must also have an end... This can apply to seasons, human thoughts, and even the vastness of space. Without these cycles, we would have nothing to base our concept of time, for if there was never any change how can one percieve...anything at all? In order for any one thing to change, it must have something it can change to, hence my understanding of duality. Now I am not saying a proton can change into an electron, but one could certainly not exist without the other (within the limits of human thought). I believe once we understand the true nature of dark matter and energy, and how these mysterious forces fit into what we DO know, we will have a completely new understanding of the forces all around us.

Similar Structures Throughout...
Mother nature sure likes to do things a certain way. Call it analogous evolution (which limits the scope which im thinking here) or chance, but one cannot deny the similarity of two things which are seperated by vast amounts of time and space. Take the beaks of squids and parrots for example, apparently the best way to eat for two COMPLETELY different animals. On a more recent note, I recently read an article about the large scale structure of our universe, which states that strings of galaxys millions of light years in length, form structures with walls, and voids within those walls. This isnt the exact article I read but here is one link, http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/gclusters/soap.html. Those pictures remind me of so many things; from the neuro networks in our very own brains to algae spread across a rock. It seems that just about everything has the same ideas from the incomprehensibly huge, to the microscopicly small (and perhaps with better technology the atomicly and sub-atomicly small) This really makes me think that everything is indeed connected in one way or another.

Human Nature
One could only describe the actions of the human race as a whole, as selfish; which I believe can be derived from humans' unique sense of self. For if everyone was truly unselfish, would poverty still exist? Would wars still be fought over oil and power? The human brain is indeed a powerful tool, which has brought us far; no doubtedly were we carried by the drive to preserve one's self/family. Yet because of this powerful drive races are divided by cultures and beliefs. Killings and genocides are justified by the claim that, "we belong here more than you" or "Our god is truly right, and yours is false" to me dictates insanity, not knowledge. Which brings me to my next topic....

Religion
Ah indeed the bane of human existence. Ever since religion was created, shortly thereafter follows war. Countless lives have been taken in His name over the course of history, and our generation is no different. Why would a god allow so many divisions of religion when he knows it will only cause despair? It is almost like living in the stone age when talking to some people about religion, it amazes me how close minded religion can make people. Now I understand that faith plays an important role in some peoples lives, but when you denounce a heavily supported claim simply because your religion tells you to, is ludacris. When you surrender your ability to decide for yourself, and place it purely in faith, you surrender more than just your humanity(which is not necessarily a bad thing for some people). Most religions serve as general guidelines rather than strict instructions with an exclamation point at the end. No religion should ask you to relinquish the ability to make decisions on your own.


As I sat here typing this, it dawned on me I may not have made much sense at times. I find my brain often works on different wavelengths of other people and it can be hard for me to express what I really want to say. However I did get a good brain "workout" and hope that some of my insights may provide you with your own. And maybe down the line a more coherent topic may be written...

Roman
04-17-06, 11:58 PM
Religion
Ah indeed the bane of human existence. Ever since religion was created, shortly thereafter follows war. Countless lives have been taken in His name over the course of history, and our generation is no different. Why would a god allow so many divisions of religion when he knows it will only cause despair? It is almost like living in the stone age when talking to some people about religion, it amazes me how close minded religion can make people. Now I understand that faith plays an important role in some peoples lives, but when you denounce a heavily supported claim simply because your religion tells you to, is ludacris. When you surrender your ability to decide for yourself, and place it purely in faith, you surrender more than just your humanity(which is not necessarily a bad thing for some people). Most religions serve as general guidelines rather than strict instructions with an exclamation point at the end. No religion should ask you to relinquish the ability to make decisions on your own.

The bane of human existence? Ever since religion there has been war? Strife comes before belief, my friend.

It's too easy to bash religion, and it places the blame on the wrong institution. Religion isn't inherently bad. It's inherently social. Religion functions to lubricate human interaction, to strengthen social bonds. It's a political function Religion serves as a kind of government and legal system, but rather than just disciplining one in this life, it threatens to discipline in the next one.

Furthermore, it helps explain the explainable. Why bad things happen to good people, existence, the purpose of life. Prior to the scientific revolution, religion was used to explain natural phenomena. With limited date, one must make things up. The ancients had very limited data, so they had to make a lot of stuff up.

Finally, religion asking one to relinquish personal freedoms is no different than government demanding the same of individuals. This shouldn't be a surprise, either, as religion and government have, for much of history, served the same purpose.

valich
04-18-06, 12:43 AM
I'm not going to read all your anomalies because I don't have the time, and they should be listed on seperate postings, but not everything has an opposite. What's the opposite to my being, "Valich"? An anti-Valich? What's the opposite to the sun-filled day that I had basking on the beach? A sunburned rerun driving backwards back home? What's the opposite of my dog smiling and joyfully barking at me when I take her for a walk? She's never been sad or angry. Are we playing pick-and-choose?

"Similar Structures." Post this as a seperate post under the Biology Science Forum and I'll reply.

"Human Nature...One could only describe the actions of the human race as a whole, as selfish." Depends on how you define "selfish." Can one do otherwise without considering or having his or her self in the background as the subject of the decision? Is a man "selfish" for throwing himself in front of a knife-wielding attacker to save the victim?

"Religion." It's much more complicated and deeper than you paraphrase it out to be. Again, post a simple question on the forum and you'll get many more pinpointed replies, rather than debate or discussion about what you really mean.

BSFilter
04-18-06, 07:37 AM
Hmm, I kind of expected to get flamed, instead of constructively criticized. Valich, you take my ideas of opposites way to literally. While there is no opposite to the string of actions you described as, "What's the opposite to the sun-filled day that I had basking on the beach?", there is however an opposite to each object taken seperately. Sun-filled night = moonless night. Basking in the sun = wading in the sea? Perhaps the idea is too simple to be criticized correctly. We often overlook things that we believe to be inherently true.

BSFilter
04-18-06, 07:42 AM
Sorry for dual posts, but also, "Is a man 'selfish' for throwing himself in front of a knife-wielding attacker to save the victim?" No that person is not selfish. And yes you can sit there any make example after example of these kind of acts. You ignore however all the other acts such as stealing, murder, rape, etc... that FAR outweigh the one in a million that will risk their life saving another human, most would rather save themselves. Maybe this is just because most people dont get a chance to prove themselves? Either way, as a whole, the human race IS selfish.

duendy
04-18-06, 07:57 AM
Sorry for dual posts, but also, "Is a man 'selfish' for throwing himself in front of a knife-wielding attacker to save the victim?" No that person is not selfish. And yes you can sit there any make example after example of these kind of acts. You ignore however all the other acts such as stealing, murder, rape, etc... that FAR outweigh the one in a million that will risk their life saving another human, most would rather save themselves. Maybe this is just because most people dont get a chance to prove themselves? Either way, as a whole, the human race IS selfish.

Hi and a warm welcome.......LOVE your passion of inquiry. asking questions is a good good thing. cause if you dont ask you get rigid and dont explore

i URGE you to not get caufght up in imagining 'religion' began with the war-obsessed patriarchs...it did NOT. you have to research how all that began, basically it was male tribes with their new foun metals and beliefs in sky-gods invading Indigenous peoples who had more deeper polar-related understanding of reality. we have been undwr their oppression ever since, and YES mechanistic science is a HUGE carry-on OF that oppression. so be very wary of tis myth too--ie., th materialistic philosophy

regarding 'selfish' and 'not-selfish'/altruism

this is mindfuk laid on ya bey that very same mindset. a mindfuk because of its PRETENCE. in reality it --all polar oppoiates are NO static but in dynamic PROCESSS. so one cannot be wholy selfess, or wholly selfish. but the isms claim that that can be so. so for example in Eastern idiology has grown ths bullshite about the wholly selfess guru etc, and in our myth we have the silly idea of a selfless Jesus/God and wholly selfish 'Devil'

it is tis indoctrinated belief than causes the strife. inner strife which projects outwardly onto others and Nature

BSFilter
04-18-06, 09:14 AM
I am not saying that religion began with "war-obsessed patriarchs", but tried to suggest that ever since something as powerful to people as religion began to divide into different sects, the people divided with it. What I dont understand is why these different religions could not just ignore each other? Probably because they felt it was their divine mission to get as many followers as possible, even from other religions. Refusal to convert was then met with violence, which I suppose ultimately led us to our first war over religion.

duendy
04-18-06, 09:43 AM
I am not saying that religion began with "war-obsessed patriarchs", but tried to suggest that ever since something as powerful to people as religion began to divide into different sects, the people divided with it. What I dont understand is why these different religions could not just ignore each other? Probably because they felt it was their divine mission to get as many followers as possible, even from other religions. Refusal to convert was then met with violence, which I suppose ultimately led us to our first war over religion.
wehn 'spirits' become abstracted out from Nature is when the danger really materializes. this is wht happend. you get the --for example--Greek Olympian gods who become divorced from the more chthonic understanding of 'gods'---once 'spirit' starts becoming sperated from matter--psychologically is when the elites that pretend to have closer contact with this HOW 'invisible' world have power over those said to not have contact. and FORBIDDEn contact
From thislater stage of polytheism comes mono-theism where a higher abstraction subsumes all the varius 'gods' into ONE 'God'---who 'his' followers identify with as a group and any other 'god' is now deemed falsea infamous illustration is te conflict between the faiths from the same Abrahamic roots. i recently sw this docu where it showed monument to their prophet Abraham, visited by the Jews, Christians and Muslims, and armed guards --there to protect the different followers from each other!

Roman
04-18-06, 06:40 PM
Hmm, I kind of expected to get flamed, instead of constructively criticized. Valich, you take my ideas of opposites way to literally.

Valich is either the World's Best Troll or a hugantic idiot. He has an incredible knack for missing points and taking othings to extreme literal meanings. I hope that man never gets his hand on a bible. I recommend ignoring him rather than engaging. You just can't win.

Mr. G
04-18-06, 09:31 PM
"Random thoughts"

You have really organized and developed random thoughts.

Sorta like being an Anarchist 501(C)(3).

Speaking of "random" -- 2 vowels, four consonants that could have been "manrod".

Roman
04-18-06, 10:04 PM
Random is often misused, always over used. So are the words evolve and evolution.

BSFilter
04-19-06, 11:01 AM
Well I guess you could say at one point, they were random, until I organized them together