(Radical) Islamo Arab thirst for (it's) "dead babies"



The familiar pictures, Islamic terrorists are murdering innocent civilians they hide among kids, or shoot from a civilian house, the west response to defend it's people, some non combatants dies along the anti-terror operation, Al Jazeera is happy-running with the photos, the Arab leaders play drama on TV... blah-blah.

The same ol', same ol' whining - after their constant sick anticipation of juicy graphic photos - as part of their propaganda against the west.

You have to understand the "victimhood" that is well embedded into their cult(ure), especially as part of "justifying Islamists horrific acts all over the planet".

The sad part is that ultra liberals are taking the bait and not only not combating this lowest of the lowest crime of: awaiting and rejoice to "dead Arab babies" so they can celebrate "victimhood" but the fanatical liberals are aiding, empowering the "terror apology" and false-victimhood illusion even farther.

As an integral part of Hezbullah & Hamas strategy to bring about the "dead babies", very few Arabs will actually blame the Islamists terrorists and seem quite happy with their kids falling, for that sacred "cause" of "victimhood".

The only way to combat this criminal cult is by opening up this "Satanic game" and "explain" in detail it's exat intentional strategy on any international forum, UN, EU, etc.

whats your point?
isreal is killing civillians including children in gaza and lebanon

hello Kiwi
thank you for the new thread

could you explain in more detail pls kiwi, as i dont get what you mean??

Kiwi's writing is pretty much propoganda. I think though that it refers to the following true fact: Hezbollah militants build their bases in civilians areas, so when Israel attacks these bases civilians are often killed. This doesn't change the fact that due to Israel's actions, hundreds of civilians have been killed in Lebanon so far.

OR, due to Hezbollah's actions, hundreds of civilians have been killed in Lebanon.

"Israel clearly has the right to defend itself against Hizbullah's attacks, and it can be frustrating to follow the rules when the enemy doesn't acknowledge them. It can be difficult to hold back and be discriminating in the choice of targets when the enemy claims the right to attack civilian targets or even denies that there is such a thing as an Israeli civilian. Nevertheless, even aside from the fact that conserving human life is a moral good, following international humanitarian law and limiting the scope of warfare is critical if there is to be a hope of multilateral resolution and a postwar political settlement. The law is not meaningless either to the short-term realities of war or the politics of the underlying conflict, and the long-term dividends of conserving civilian life are much greater than the immediate costs."

from the diary of an Israeli pilot involved in the current air campaign against Hizballah:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150886035223&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

It's strange how the focus in these missions is not to succeed, hit the target precisely, but rather - not to make any mistakes. The message is clear all the way from the Squadron commander to the last pilot. One mistake can jeopardize the whole war, like in Kfar-Kana, in one of the last operations in Lebanon, where artillery bombarded a refugee camp, killing over 100 people, which resulted in international pressure that halted the operation. Hitting the target is expected, no misses are acceptable. There aren't any congratulations for a well-performed mission. Only a hammer on the head if something goes wrong. Personally, I think it's a healthy attitude; it causes the whole system to be less rash and hot on the trigger.


killing civilians is not only morally unacceptable by the IDF as a whole (from the General staff down to the privates), but it is extremely important to not do... and that's because killing civilians jeopardizes the mission since it brings very negative attention and causes the operation to be aborted because of diplomatic pressure (for example, when Israeli bombs killed 7-8 Canadian Lebanese by mistake. here in Canada they showed a press conference with the surviving family members crying their hearts out... that really broke my heart :(). and this sort of attitude, as the guy explains, is what keeps Israeli fighter pilots very careful, and not trigger happy

you'll be amazed at where Hizballah's headquarters were located...

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20060716/capt.931d20514f5147298b503fe07e0262a6.aptopix_mide ast_lebanon_israel_fighting_ksd110.jpg

look at all the residential highrise buildings!!!

you'll also be amazed that after over 2000 sorties there has been about 150 Lebanese deaths... of whom a portion is Hizballah fighters
do the math and count the precision

and what about the other side? well, their actions speak for themselves. they also shows their culture of death as opposed to the Israeli culture of life

The problem is that Israel has not limited it's attacks to only the locations where Hezbollah has placed their infrastructure. Israel has attacked any location in Lebanon that may have strategic value whether or not that area is under terrorist control or Lebanese control. Please note that some of the targets where in Lebanese Christian sections where Hezbollah has no presence.

Let's look at numbers:

fighting, which has killed at least 237 people in Lebanon and 25 in Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060718/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_201;_ylt=AiyclyyhCSklEtZBF55HfsEUvi oA)

Those who kill more, are more "evil". It really is NOT more complicated than that!

Let's look at numbers:

fighting, which has killed at least 237 people in Lebanon and 25 in Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060718/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_israel_201;_ylt=AiyclyyhCSklEtZBF55HfsEUvi oA)

Those who kill more, are more "evil". It really is NOT more complicated than that!
You seem to be very good in counting numbers!

During the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, thousands died on both sides,..which side do you think was evil,.. the one that did most of the killings or the one that took the most prisoners?? :rolleyes:

During the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, thousands died on both sides,..which side do you think was evil,.. the one that did most of the killings or the one that took the most prisoners??

Hey, you forget the obligatory Anti-American part:

"Or those that supplied both sides with weaponry to kill themselves? One with chemical weapons and the other with arms bought from the Iran Contra Scandal?"

;)

- N

You seem to be very good in counting numbers!
yes, thank you. people should count more often. Puts things into perspective.

During the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, thousands died on both sides,..which side do you think was evil,.. the one that did most of the killings or the one that took the most prisoners?? :rolleyes:

What's your point? (nice attempt to steer off the topic.)

Zephyr, why is the truth a "propaganda" it is "not" in Hezbullah's interest that your brothers die, so they can play "victim" all over Al Jazeera?

yes, thank you. people should count more often. Puts things into perspective.



What's your point? (nice attempt to steer off the topic.)
You count the death toll in one war and refuse to acknowledge a similar atrocity in another one.
Get your facts straight before addressing an argument. Repetitive rheotric does not justify the crime! :rolleyes:

You seem to be very good in counting numbers!

During the Iran-Iraq war in the 80s, thousands died on both sides,..which side do you think was evil,.. the one that did most of the killings or the one that took the most prisoners?? :rolleyes:
The US backed Saddam while Rotting Reagan and Ollie paid the Ayatollah of Iran to support death squads and terrorism in Latin America. We encouraged both sides to kill eachother. A million plus deaths. Now we're off in Iraq killing more, not to mention forcing prisoners to perform sex acts with eachother and murdering/raping/torturing. Saddam wasn't as thorough as the rednecks in fatigues we have struggling to secure the capital city. I read US troops fave tune is "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" as they blasted civilians in our "liberation" for thrills.

The US backed Saddam while Rotting Reagan and Ollie paid the Ayatollah of Iran to support death squads and terrorism in Latin America. We encouraged both sides to kill eachother. A million plus deaths. Now we're off in Iraq killing more, not to mention forcing prisoners to perform sex acts with eachother and murdering/raping/torturing. Saddam wasn't as thorough as the rednecks in fatigues we have struggling to secure the capital city. I read US troops fave tune is "Let the Bodies Hit the Floor" as they blasted civilians in our "liberation" for thrills.
Hey don't forget they played out loud" Highway to Hell" from ACDC when storming into Fallujah on their tanks!!! :D

The U.S Military is both musically and deadly talented!!

Hey don't forget they played out loud" Highway to Hell" from ACDC when storming into Fallujah on their tanks!!! :D
Now 2600 US bodies have hit the floor! HUAH!

The U.S Military is both musically and deadly talented!!
Now if only they can secure an Iraqi town or city.......

The U.S Military is both musically and deadly talented!!
you going to start a thread on best music to invade a city to or something?

I'll bet there could be some awesome metal playing as you fly planes into skyscrapers. COOL! Would Vega listen to Kottonmouth Kings as he opened fire in a US shopping center?

Are these the atheists who think religion is the cause of violence?

Which religion do you subscribe to?

Smells like nationalism to me

I think Genji is being sarcastic Sam. At least I hope he is.

I'm wondering myself

I think Genji is being sarcastic Sam. At least I hope he is.
I don't get samcdkeys post. Didn't think it was addressing me but if it was uhh, I'm not a theist, so I have no religion. I do think religion has killed more people than anything else in recorded history combined and nationalism is the antithesis of communism. A united Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrain and UAE would be a tremendous step forward for the region. When was I sarcastic? :confused:

Are you from the Middle East?

Are you from the Middle East?
Actually yes. Born in Ohio. Why?

Have you lived anywhere over there for a few years

Why do you think there are so many dictators there or kingdoms?

Why doesn't anyone try to set up a democratic form of government?

When was I sarcastic? :confused:
I'll bet there could be some awesome metal playing as you fly planes into skyscrapers. COOL! Would Vega listen to Kottonmouth Kings as he opened fire in a US shopping center?
Here?

Have you lived anywhere over there for a few years
Is this another "If you haven't BEEN there you have no opinion" traps? I work with GUPS (General Union of Palestinian Students) others that support a left policy in the region, I read, watch our bad decision making on the subject on both C-SPAN's, I know jewish people opposed to Israel that also agree on a united Arab Republic being reborn and I have my opinion on the subject as well. Citizenship in the area is not required as long as I'm paying for the wars on Arabs. :rolleyes:

Here?
Ohhhhhh (Edith Bunker) Of course! Vega and the miltary get off on playing death metal as they slaughter, or wish to, civilians during illegal invasions. I think it's fuckin sick so I brought up the idea that maybe a US disaster involving planned violence and headbanging attackers wouldn't be so cool to the little punk. That's all.

Nope no traps just that people have very long memories there and are not going to forgive or forget easily. I think its good that you're thinking about this. If the EU could do it the ME should certainly try.

I always support the pacifists regardless of their theist/atheist status :cool:

Ohhhhhh (Edith Bunker) Of course! Vega and the miltary get off on playing death metal as they slaughter, or wish to, civilians during illegal invasions. I think it's fuckin sick so I brought up the idea that maybe a US disaster involving planned violence and headbanging attackers wouldn't be so cool to the little punk. That's all.

Surprising really that even after 9/11 Americans cannot see the injustice of bombing civilian targets. Calling them collateral damage does not take away the fact that they ARE civilians.

And yet for two towers they have been at war for 5 years, a right they presumably believe belongs ONLY to them

Surprising really that even after 9/11 Americans cannot see the injustice of bombing civilian targets. Calling them collateral damage does not take away the fact that they ARE civilians.

And yet for two towers they have been at war for 5 years, a right they presumably believe belongs ONLY to them
We will reap what we sow. Already we are paying a price. It needs to be much steeper. 50k dead soldiers might do it, or passage of a law that requires members of Congress & the Senate to send all able bodied children they have to the wars they create and nourish.

Genji, I wonder why C-SPAN only has translated Arab TV tapes on but never an Israeli one.