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Mickmeister 11-26-07, 09:01 AM Out of curiosity, I started researching racism in other parts of the world and was surprised to find that it exists much more predominantly than is now in the US. For instance, in Russia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4969296.stm), there are several reports on how bad racism really is in that country. In Europe (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE3DF1030F934A25752C1A9659582 60&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/K/Kamm,%20Henry), there is racism against gypsies. In Mexico (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/03/cstillwell.DTL), there is racism against the dark skinned Indians and Mexican-Africans. These are just a few of the many (http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/Racism.asp) countries experiencing racism. So with racism being worldwide, why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
Because EVERYTHING's our fault. You didn't know this? :rolleyes:
Plus, we're easier to attack. We don't saw people's heads off for disagreeing with/slandering us. :)
pjdude1219 11-26-07, 09:37 AM Because EVERYTHING's our fault. You didn't know this? :rolleyes:
Plus, we're easier to attack. We don't saw people's heads off for disagreeing with/slandering us. :)
its because we place a greater concern on not being bigots than other contries that we get singled out
when you are a leader, you get held to a higher standard. it's an honor actually to strive to be better and excellent and be an example for others.
takethewarhome 11-26-07, 11:26 AM Hate doesn't know political boundaries and that's all there is to it.
There's always been the 'us and them' mentality..
Sometime in my life it became ugly to look dark, I didn't get an email notification or a fax. So What's a guy to do, pray everyday to become white or actually do something about it like Michael Jackson did. The U.S gets the bigest rap about racism because they are supposed to be the unofficial forerunners of racial appreciation. I admire most racists because we share something in common, we both dream of a world where black people will live in Black countries and white people will live in white countries. But the difference between me and them is that I wish this out of respect for uniformity and naturality, not out of racism, and I'm perfectly fine with the way things are. If American white men are tired of dark people why don't they go to some EUROPEAN COUNTRY with very little to no black population? Then we'll see just how happy they are. They think watching black men slamming basketball down into the shoots is not a previlage. The whole thing is hipocracy, Southern United States is supposed to be the most christianed part of the country but was the last to abolish slavery and discrimination. Sometimes I wonna commit mass suicide with all the black people in the world so we can leave the world to you fuckers world over. For people who are supposed to be smart, how can you hate and fear others so much.
Exhumed 11-26-07, 01:59 PM why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
First of all, I'm not really sure that it is. Do you have something to support this or was this just some vague feeling you had? Which news outlets do you refer to?
So with racism being worldwide, why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
To hazard a guess, it could be because the US holds itself out as the bastion of freedom and equality, when in reality it is not. It is quick to point out the racism in other countries, while turning a blind eye to the racism that exists within its own borders. The US is not alone in this of course, but they are the most vocal.
mountainhare 11-26-07, 06:44 PM Bells:
To hazard a guess, it could be because the US holds itself out as the bastion of freedom and equality, when in reality it is not.
Actually, the U.S.A is a bastion of freedom and equality.
It is quick to point out the racism in other countries,
while turning a blind eye to the racism that exists within its own borders. The US is not alone in this of course, but they are the most vocal.
Blatantly false.
quadraphonics 11-26-07, 07:22 PM Out of curiosity, I started researching racism in other parts of the world and was surprised to find that it exists much more predominantly than is now in the US.
Why would that surprise you? And that's not (just) a rhetorical question; I'm very much interested in the basis for your preconceptions.
So with racism being worldwide, why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
Because, unlike most other countries, we consider racism to be bad and make efforts to get rid of it, and also beat ourselves up over it. The focus on America has to do not so much with racism per se, but with how our society lives up to our stated vision of it (melting pot, land of opportunity, etc.). Racism in most other countries is expected (and even encouraged), so it's not exactly headline material that racism exists there.
Also, any other factors aside, America is singled out for scrutiny in almost every area, owing to our immense presence and influence.
mountainhare 11-26-07, 07:38 PM Precisely, quad.
Exhumed 11-26-07, 07:39 PM I'm still very interested in the preconception that America is singled out for racism, but apparently I'm the only one who has not noticed this...
quadraphonics 11-26-07, 08:10 PM I'm still very interested in the preconception that America is singled out for racism, but apparently I'm the only one who has not noticed this...
Fair enough, but I doubt anyone here is about to undertake the comprehensive survey of worldwide media coverage that would be required to seriously answer this question. Suffice it to say that people seem to feel that America gets a lot more attention on this front (although this does not necessarily mean it's the case).
Exhumed 11-26-07, 08:49 PM Of course, I don't want a survey. Something simple like a non-American like mountainhare (Australian I believe) telling us if his non-American media focuses on it would help.
I have a hunch most people in this thread primarily use American media.
mountainhare 11-26-07, 11:51 PM When the issue of racism is mentioned on the news/talk shows, it is more often than not in reference to white racism against non-whites. Usually the groups of whites being focused on are either Australian (typically, given that Australian news will cover Australian issues) and American.
But it's not just 'the news', but also our public education system and the general social attitude. When one brings up the issue of 'racism', discussions inevitably fly to the United States treatment of the blacks.
For example, I wasn't aware of the caste system in India until a few months ago. I wasn't aware of the bitter history between the Japanese and Chinese until I watched 'Fist of Fury'. Yet I have been aware of America's history regarding the blacks since primary school. It's been drummed into us in school, in politics, on the news, on talk shows, and in history books. And to be honest, I'm tired of hearing about it.
Out of curiosity, I started researching racism in other parts of the world and was surprised to find that it exists much more predominantly than is now in the US. For instance, in Russia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4969296.stm), there are several reports on how bad racism really is in that country. In Europe (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE3DF1030F934A25752C1A9659582 60&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/K/Kamm,%20Henry), there is racism against gypsies. In Mexico (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/03/cstillwell.DTL), there is racism against the dark skinned Indians and Mexican-Africans. These are just a few of the many (http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/Racism.asp) countries experiencing racism. So with racism being worldwide, why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
Probably because they have never had a Native American, black or woman president and also US foreign policy and trade practices are highly racist.
spuriousmonkey 11-27-07, 12:46 AM Plus, we're easier to attack. We don't saw people's heads off for disagreeing with/slandering us. :)
That's awful! That must really hurt! :eek:
Probably because they have never had a Native American, black or woman president and also US foreign policy and trade practices are highly racist.
The dont even sell Japanese cars in U.S neither.
mountainhare 11-27-07, 01:19 AM S.A.M:
Probably because they have never had a Native American, black or woman president and also US foreign policy and trade practices are highly racist.
It's a hard nut life, huh?
Spuriousmonkey, John99 and mountainhare, keep it on topic please.
Thank you.
mountainhare 11-27-07, 02:47 AM Every post I've made has been on topic. WTF are you on?
I'd meant your response to Sam. Nevermind. My apologies.
CharonZ 11-27-07, 05:02 AM I have a hunch most people in this thread primarily use American media.
I'd agree with this notion. In German media for instance there is almost nothing about racism in the USA but lots about racism in Germany. As such I do think that the OP is wrong in its assumption.
Mickmeister 11-27-07, 07:18 AM In German media for instance there is almost nothing about racism in the USA but lots about racism in Germany.
Thanks for that info. I posted this thread in another forum also and several people from other European countries also said that they rarely hear about this topic in their media.
Fraggle Rocker 11-27-07, 09:03 PM we both dream of a world where black people will live in Black countries and white people will live in white countries. But the difference between me and them is that I wish this out of respect for uniformity and naturality, not out of racism, and I'm perfectly fine with the way things are.I dream of a world in which there are not artificially separated communities of black people and white people. Skin color is one of the most ephemeral genetic traits and it's ridiculous that so many people put so much importance on it. There's no reason for dark-skinned people and light-skinned people to separate themselves, in America or anywhere else. In most of the Western Hemisphere, the descendants of freed slaves and the descendants of their masters learned to live together in harmony long ago, and today they just come in different shades of brown. My opinion that Lincoln's hubris is the reason for the USA still having racism has been posted here many times. But 140 years later it's time for us to forget slavery, Lincoln and the Civil War and just all become Americans.If American white men are tired of dark people why don't they go to some EUROPEAN COUNTRY with very little to no black population?The vast majority of American men and American women are not racists. The problem is that since they don't spend a lot of time thinking about race, they also don't talk about it much, so nobody knows they're out there. The racists, on the other hand, talk about it all the time. So they make everyone think they're in the majority. Well they're not. Fuck 'em!The whole thing is hipocracy, Southern United States is supposed to be the most christianed part of the country but was the last to abolish slavery and discrimination.You must be joking to wonder about that. Christianity, Judaism and Islam are Neolithic religions that reinforce tribalism! They are about us-against-them and us-against-you. Each of them thinks they're better than everybody else and the last thing they want is tolerance and equality. They've been fighting with each other for hundreds, thousands of years. And when they can't do that they just divide into sects and start fighting among themselves! This planet will never have peace and harmony as long as the Abrahamic religions remain in power. Christianity is one of the main reasons that the American South is the cesspool that it is, and lately it has been spreading like a cancer, with a Religious Redneck Retard in the White House, spewing hatred across the entire planet.
Do not look to Christianity, or any of the Abrahamists, for peace and tolerance. Their prophets may preach that but they don't get the message.Sometimes I wonna commit mass suicide with all the black people in the world so we can leave the world to you fuckers world over. For people who are supposed to be smart, how can you hate and fear others so much.I weep when I hear people say that. Please believe me when I say that the vast majority of us aren't like that. It's just that the forces of religion and the hatred it inspires are so powerful, they are hard to hold back. Don't give up. Help us! We can unite against the tribal religious racists and defeat them. Civilization needs you!
I appreciate the sentiment Fraggle rocker. There is always going to be "us and them", but it need not to be "us against them", maybe someday it might even be...oops.. "us for them".
wanneszinnig 12-01-07, 11:51 AM ...
G. F. Schleebenhorst 12-12-07, 01:09 PM Bells:
Actually, the U.S.A is a bastion of freedom and equality.
No it isn't. You open your mouth, someone sues you. That limits freedom. Censorship whether public or private limits freedom.
Affirmative action is racism. That's not equality.
Bells is right, the US is targeted most because you won't shut up about how great your country is for two fucking seconds when in reality the US is a country mostly composed of racists )who lie about being racist for fear of prosecution by a racist PC government) and hypocrites.
Ganymede 12-12-07, 01:59 PM Because EVERYTHING's our fault. You didn't know this? :rolleyes:
Plus, we're easier to attack. We don't saw people's heads off for disagreeing with/slandering us. :)
Or maybe because we were the last first world country to outlaw racism? Or maybe, just maybe, we were the last first world country to outlaw segregation. Your command of American history is deplorable.
Affirmative action is racism. That's not equality.
You are expanding too much upon the definition of racism. Racism is a selective discrimination that intends to demean people of a supposedly inferior "race."
Affirmative action is a selective discrimination that intends to promote diversity in groups of people.
They are both discrimination, but one is right and one is wrong. The wrong one is called racism. Get your definitions right.
G. F. Schleebenhorst 12-14-07, 06:18 PM Debatable, but maybe you could tell me why such diversity should be promoted?
... Racism is a selective discrimination that intends to demean people of a supposedly inferior "race."
Affirmative action is a selective discrimination that intends to promote diversity in groups of people ...
One must not display prejudice against any member of the inferior racial groups.
Out of curiosity, I started researching racism in other parts of the world and was surprised to find that it exists much more predominantly than is now in the US. For instance, in Russia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4969296.stm), there are several reports on how bad racism really is in that country. In Europe (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CE3DF1030F934A25752C1A9659582 60&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/K/Kamm,%20Henry), there is racism against gypsies. In Mexico (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2005/08/03/cstillwell.DTL), there is racism against the dark skinned Indians and Mexican-Africans. These are just a few of the many (http://www.globalissues.org/HumanRights/Racism.asp) countries experiencing racism. So with racism being worldwide, why is the US singled out and always at the forefront of the news on this topic?
Because the US is a goddamned rockstar. We're like the Tom Cruise of the International scene.
Every post I've made has been on topic. WTF are you on?
Breeder hormones.
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