Israel to 'pray for failure'

Jerusalem - Israeli rabbis were planning on Sunday to hold special sessions in 100 synagogues to pray for the failure of this week's summit between prime minister Ariel Sharon and new Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas.

The prayer sessions on Monday will also call for divine intervention against Sharon's plan to pull settlers out of the Gaza Strip and small parts of the northern West Bank later this year.

Rabbi Yitzhak Batzri, one the organisers, told army radio that "the objective is to prevent the prime minister from committing the error of giving up parts of Eretz Israel (Biblical Israel) which belongs to the Jewish people".

Another of the driving forces behind the initiative is the former chief rabbi Mordechai Elihyau who is known for his hardline nationalist stance.

Sharon and Abbas will meet at the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on Tuesday as part of growing international efforts to revive the peace process.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1658266 (http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1658266,00.html) ,00.html

Whenever we hear of religious fundamentalists intent on destroying peace we are always given sociopathic Islamic Immans .

Hmm. Haven't been paying much attention to the palestine since the death of Arafat.

Abbas is the new leader? That's an ominous name for the superstitiously inclined.

Who ever rules the Palestinians lets hope they push Israel into the Mediterrean Sea .

damn straight, those bush loving invaders should be sent packing

I think its telling how this story hasn't been played out on CNN or FOX news, I wonder why? Its not secret there is massive religious fundamentalism in Israel that would be en par with that in Saudi Arabia, we just don't hear about it. Israel is a country of grave contradictions which will lead to its downfall eventually.

When they do go down they will be screaming "halacaust" and "antisemitism" untill their very end... just shows the world would have been better off if they went to the place argentina offered to give them

The supposed hardliner Sharon wants to talk peace, and a few nutcases who's brains have baked too long in the desert won't be able to stop it. The Israeli people are mostly moderates, and most Palestinians know the road they have chosen (terrorism) is a dead end, they just want to get on with their lives. The same thing happened in Ireland.

Enemies, real and preceived, are what keeps Israel together.

Ireland is still messed up.

Muhlenburg,
That's what keeps every country together, otherwise we would just get rid of all national borders.

True, unless your Jamaica... who would want to hurt those nice people.. other than religious or racist extremists

Israel is an extreme case. Really began in late 19th C Russia when Jews broke into Marxists and Zionists (with much overlap). There is no way to reconcile ultra-orthodox with liberal Jews except by a bunker mentality. They keep it mainly in house but the worst things I've read about Jews or Christians have been from NYC liberal Jews writing about the Hasidim.

I'v heard those storys to, but you must remember marxist and zionist ideologies dont mix well with other beleifs... especially with activly extreme ideas.

Israel wouldn't exist without hatred and she knows it, and I wouldn't be surprised if Zionists provoked "anti-Semitic" feelings to bolster their sick agenda of intimidation of Jews to flee to Israel due to "perceived" increases in anti-Semitism. The reason why Zionists love the fallacious term "anti-Semitic" is because the mere mention seems to spark memories of the holocaust, and many Jews sadly buy into it.

The reason why Zionists love the fallacious term "anti-Semitic" is because the mere mention seems to spark memories of the holocaust, and many Jews sadly buy into it.

FREEDOM, LIBERTY, DEMOCRACY! :D

- N

i don't really know who i'd be writing this to.. besides spidergoat (who is still a left-leaning guy) you all sound like fanatics to me, on the farthest-left.. but, here goes:

these Rabbis, to call them fanatics, is fanatical. are they preying for anyone's murder? are they inciting the population to disobey their government? or maybe they're sending their followers to suicide bomb "Palestinian" falafel shops?

they're simply against giving away parts of their country to murderers (or anyone, for that matter). it's their right to have their own opinion. why call them fanatics? they aren't doing anything fanatic. all they're doing is what you're doing: disagreeing with their government -- peacefully, without even calling on refusal

btw, they're more rightwing than me. i think this summit is a good idea.

btw, re News24 article, nice title. pretty creative.
plus, "Eretz Israel" is not "Biblical Israel".. the literal translation is "The country Israel". just another way of saying Israel. nice touch of putting that "translation" in there.

these Rabbis, to call them fanatics, is fanatical. are they preying for anyone's murder?

Through implication yes they are, since they are wanting the peace process to end what is the opposite of peace? Many fanatical Jews have been known to call for the death of Arabs, this is the Jewish Hamas in operation here.

are they inciting the population to disobey their government? or maybe they're sending their followers to suicide bomb "Palestinian" falafel shops?

They don’t need to, the IDF already does that for them ,what they want is to get rid of the Palestinian “problem” so they can have their “Eretz Israel” . Since according to some fanatic Jewish rabbi’s Jews aren’t even human but superhuman beings that don’t answer to the laws of man why would they care about what we think? Hitler didn’t…

they're simply against giving away parts of their country to murderers (or anyone, for that matter). it's their right to have their own opinion. why call them fanatics?

Because its very simple they are going against most of the world community, Israel’s own population, and the population of the Palestinian people. Fanatics like you Oth ruin peace, at least with people like Spider there is a chance for peace. Calling people murderers while ignoring your own genocides isn’t intelligent…well look whom I am talking to?

I dont like religion in general... in my head it sits in the brain washing utilities section.
Thats just my opinion dont take offence on it.

Discussing the shit that goes on between those two countries problems is dragging us down to their pathetically insane religious levels.

"Whenever we hear of religious fundamentalists intent on destroying peace we are always given sociopathic Islamic Immans", Brian Foley

There are nuts on both sides, which is the primary reason this conflict continues while the majority wish for peace.

http://www.advocacynet.org/pr_view/pr_10.html

http://aljazeerah.info/News%20archives/2003%20News%20archives/July%20/3n/Outgoing%20EU%20envoy%20Moratinos%20says%20silent% 20majority%20of%20Israelis,%20Palestinians%20want% 20peace.

Both of these articles are from 2003, and recent polls would obviously show an even more favorable mood towards peace. Eventually the majority will win over the fanatics on both sides.

"Israel is a country of grave contradictions which will lead to its downfall eventually", Undecided

I do not see a downfall, just a slow change of national identity and demographics that does not resemble zionism at all. That is the interesting thing about democracy, eventually a "religious" identity cannot continue to hold on because the population begins to develop different notions of religion or the populace begins to change. Israel will be a prime example why aN "Islamic" democracy is a concept that will never work, as well.

I think another genocide is coming.. not sure from what side or on which ethnicity.

I do not see a downfall, just a slow change of national identity and demographics that does not resemble zionism at all.

What do you think Israel is? Israel’s existentialist meaning is its “Jewish character” (whatever that may actually mean is really left up to pointless debate), should Israel have a majority Arab/non-Jewish-Zionist population how will Israel be Israel? Israel would cease being Israel, and Zionism would be dead. That’s why imo you are going to have the abandonment of democracy, or a faux democracy in place with hard-line right wingers, if not fascists initiating laws that would resemble Nazi Germany to get the Arabs out to avoid the swamping away of Israel, and for mass deportation.

That is the interesting thing about democracy, eventually a "religious" identity cannot continue to hold on because the population begins to develop different notions of religion or the populace begins to change.

There is no “religious” identity in Israel, most aren’t even Jewish most are atheist or not professing in Israel, the religion of Israel is not Judaism its Zionism. Israel’s population is getting much more fundamental, many of Israel’s moderates are leaving the country in droves and what is left over are people like the Haredi, and right-wing fanatical settlers who would put some members of Hamas to shame, Israel is shifting hard right imo and it won’t be pretty, and shifting hard right usually is a sign the nation is desperate.

you all sound like fanatics to me

No. More like feeble-minded drones and wannabe whigs. Remember, Brian Foley is factory worker who's interest include drinking beer and...drinking beer. Not that anythings wrong with that. As long as he doesn't have the right to vote.

Brian Foley symbolizes what makes democracy great: even people like him can express their opinion without fear.

in fact, Brian Foley is democracy

I must be a dictatorship then... I tell myself what to say and I say it without second thought.

prikolist, blia! :D

Neznal shto ti po riskij govorish

There are nuts on both sides, which is the primary reason this conflict continues while the majority wish for peace.
The only nuts are the Zionists because they follow a racist religious ideology which proclaims themselves the Jews as a divinely chosen people which by the grace of their God given a nation . And because of this dream of a Zionist utopia 1 million Palestinians have lost their lives since 1948 . 3 million Palestinians uprooted and existing in refugee camps and 3.5 million Palestinians existing in abject poverty , squalor and oppression in Zionism's human cages the territories . The Palestinians do what any other oppressed people do they RESIST . And just to top off this Zionist fanatic here is another sample of Rabbi lunacy .........


Rabbi: Tsunami punishment for pullout
Last month's Asian tsunami disaster was a form of divine retribution for the world's support of the planned pullout of settlers from the Gaza Strip, a former chief rabbi of Israel has said.

"The all powerful one was angry with the nations that did not help Israel, which wanted an evacuation, a disengagement [from Gaza] ... and this provoked the earth to shake," Mordechai Eliahu said in a religious publication distributed on Monday in thousands of synagogues throughout Israel.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/E18C3C0E-9162-4B72-AD 09-D651A32E02ED.htm

You see they believe we were punished by God killing all those people thats the nuts the Palestinians must deal with ona daily basis all day everyday .

Remember, Brian Foley is factory worker

Hey I gotta eat as well !

Brian Foley symbolizes what makes democracy great: even people like him can express their opinion without fear.

in fact, Brian Foley is democracy

Hey now I feel better , just for that Im buying you several icecold beers , I got deep pockets for all my freinds ;)

Yay Brian, aka democracy!

if only Balfour realized the trouble he's put everyone through . . . maybe i'm a bit of an idealist, but I'm hoping for peace. I'm sure that eventually someone will realize that fighting unwinnable wars is a bad idea . . . last year a bunch of Israeli airmen refused to take action against palestinians for fear of killing civilians. I hope they are the beginnings of a trend.

here's to hope.

here's to hope.

Heres to the trouble makers of the world ! Seriously it is outside manipulators who control events in the mideast . All America and the EU has to do is shut off the financial lifeline to that piece of real estate and it would be over in days . Just like South Africa as long as there was a communist threat the business structure western financiers made sure white controlled Apartheid South Africa remained in place . With the collapse of communism in 1989 so to the threat went and so south africa went over to the pro business freindly ANC .

I hate CEOs... sorry just a random quote from me because im bored and its too early in the morning to go back to sleep.