In older days Ronald Reagan , the geriatric president of USA at the time, called Russia the empire of evil ..... I am beginning to think he had a point :

Journalist Anna Politkovskaya just murdered , the last of at least 12 journalists criticizing the russian government murdered contract-style since
Putin came into power - NONE of these executions/murders are solved !!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/07/russia.murder.ap/index.html

Today I just checked the news from Russia :

From Itar-Tass : Dimitry Fotyanu , candidate for mayor in the city Dalnegorsk in the Primorsky region , shot dead with a kalashnikov, when he stepped out of his office today !!

Even worse : TODAY, october 19.th 2006 , Russia decided to close down : Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch in all Russia !!!!

:eek:

Putin definitely runs Russia with a hand of STEEL !!!!!!!!

An iron fist!

I saw a programme on the telly which described Putin as the puppet that broke free of his strings and killed his puppetiers.

This is one of the best Putin blunders recently :
During an EU meeting Putin invites a criticizing french journalist to go to Russia and have part of his
GENITALS cut off in a way so "nothing will grow out again"

:eek: :eek:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/11/12/world/main529102.shtml

But...but, Bush looked into Putin's eyes. So he couldn't be a bad guy, could he? I don't know who to blame for the journalist's deaths, it sounds like it could just as easily be gangsters who are benefitting from corruption and not Putin. It is business as usual for Russia, though.

Journalists are dying in suspicious circumstances in Iraq as well.

But...but, Bush looked into Putin's eyes. So he couldn't be a bad guy, could he?

No Spider, he has a heart of gold ............:p

Read this , dear Putins last words over this dead journalist at the burial :
She was" insignificant and had caused him harm " .....unusual last words from a president !!!!!!!

http://web6.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=224394&vd=101

:eek:

Russia is not really in a state of war , to compare Russia to Iraq is almost ridiculous ...by the way spider - how would you like to have some part of your genitals cut off :p

Wow, that is shocking. Putin sounds like a gangster.

Russia is in a war, don't you read the papers? (http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/Chechnya.asp)

I meant the situation with violence against journalists is an increasing problem, not to discount or downplay the situation in Russia.

Eeeeks - I just cancelled my holiday in Moscow.

No, it's fine, just don't ask any questions.

Err Ok - but why????? - - dammit, I just asked a question.

In older days Ronald Reagan , the geriatric president of USA at the time, called Russia the empire of evil ..... I am beginning to think he had a point :

Journalist Anna Politkovskaya just murdered , the last of at least 12 journalists criticizing the russian government murdered contract-style since
Putin came into power - NONE of these executions/murders are solved !!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/07/russia.murder.ap/index.html

Today I just checked the news from Russia :

From Itar-Tass : Dimitry Fotyanu , candidate for mayor in the city Dalnegorsk in the Primorsky region , shot dead with a kalashnikov, when he stepped out of his office today !!

Even worse : TODAY, october 19.th 2006 , Russia decided to close down : Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch in all Russia !!!!

:eek:

Putin definitely runs Russia with a hand of STEEL !!!!!!!!

Putin runs Russia as a democracy and not iron fist or hand of steel. The amnesty international is nothing more than a political international force in disguise to press its agenda and make Russia look like shit to the rest of the world. The candidate of primorsky region was probably a crook, as primorsky region is known for the fish business and the constant problems with money flow from this business. Currently the situation with Georgia and the need of Ajaria and North Osetia to join Russia is the reason why the recent killings are happening, this is all planned out and coordinated via international forces. Putin is the best president ever and all he brought peace to Chechnya and made life much better place for Russians than anyone else. The recent killings of the famous *bitch* and the ITAR-TASS president are closely connected to the situation in Georgia...georgians main goal is to destabilize the international relationships especially in business sphere in Russia. I fully support Putin and how he deals with issues. These so called international human right watch groups are the main reason there is so much instability in the region.

Anyone think russians like me are oppressed by the government? I am russian, I tell you this have been the best times ever for Russia. The newspapers, internet, mass-media have got soooooooooooooo much freedom for people we dont need any international fuks telling us that human rights are oppressed in Russia, cause they are not. And Chechens are not russian, so they do not count as citizens, Russia needs to control the region of Chechnya or otherwise theyll join the Georgians, sell drugs, steal, kill. Abkhazians are so close to Chechens...why dont they act like shit? because Abkhazians have got a culture...because they work. so when Amnesty International says human rights are oppressed in Chechnya they can shove it up their ass, cause chechens are violent culture with no anticipation to work like everyone else.

If only you could read Russian forums:) If everything will be going as it's going, Russia will transform itself into the First Russian Reich, no doubt. There is quite a mixture of the nationalism, imperialism, sense of the exceptionality, aversion to democracy and liberalism, socialist leanings, religious bigotry, etc. in the russian heads. BTW, rare Russian will mention USA (and to lesser extent West) in normative language. In 90% of the cases, it's nothing but derogatory derivatives of those word. Russians truly believe that Great Russia is about to rise again. Every flight of the rusty russian bomber near American borders is nearly the cause for the national celebration (no kidding).

If only you could read Russian forums:) If everything will be going as it's going, Russia will transform itself into the First Russian Reich, no doubt. There is quite a mixture of nationalism, imperialism, sense of the exceptionality, aversion to democracy and liberalism, socialist leanings, religious bigotry, etc. in the russian heads. BTW, rare Russian will mention USA (and to lesser extent West) in normative language. In 90% of the casing, it's nothing but derogatory derivatives of those word. Russians truly believe that Great Russia is about to rise again. Every flight of the rusty russian bomber near American borders is nearly the cause for the national celebration (no kidding).

As you say...
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_7.jpg
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/su343.html
is a small example of current russian air-force technology.

I will also mention that currently Russia owns a huge piece of the military international trade, which means countries love the technology because its cheap and powerfull. Russia has enough nuclear warheads to destroy the world, especially USA. Russia trails second from China with highest GDP increase.

http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/armies/an.asp

ah that Pooty-Poot! Such a funny guy! [That is one beautiful aircraft!!! Looks like a giant F-15] http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_2.jpg

ah that dunya! Such a ....pretzel-choker?

ah that dunya! Such a ....pretzel-choker?

That's "pretzel-chokin-sum-of-a-bitch" to you sir!

As you say...
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/images/su34_7.jpg
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su34/su343.html
is a small example of current russian air-force technology.

I will also mention that currently Russia owns a huge piece of the military international trade, which means countries love the technology because its cheap and powerfull. Russia has enough nuclear warheads to destroy the world, especially USA. Russia trails second from China with highest GDP increase.

>50% of population is wabbling around poverty line, but soon to be Great Empire again engages in the military waste race with epitome of evil (as seen from the Russian side) - USA and the West. Moreover, folks who do the "wabbling" are ecstatic about it. Misterious, superbly spiritual (again, as seen from the Russian side) russian souls take pride in selling slighltly modified soviet weapons to whomever who'll pay. As seen from the my side, Russians are sick and need lots of soulsearching to recover.

Actually, I rather admire Putin. He seems like a strong, effective leader, who for all his authoritarianism, is seeking to place Russia on an economic and political power base, that does not depend on the old Soviet nonsense, but on a more vigorous and proper nationalism.

Bush's antagonism of Putin is absurd. The Russians need a bit of despotism to flourish. It is their national character.

So many people think if a government the US dislikes/fears is swept away the succeeding one will be an improvement. So Wrong, as usual. Now the world is a far more dangerous place. We booted out Afghanistan's communist and anti-Islamic fundie Najibullah only to replace him with the mujahadeen, precursers of the Taliban. We got rid of Hussein and now we have civil war and religious clerics in positions of power. In Russia the evil USSR was disbanded, now we have someone more dangerous in Putin and his gang, not to mention about 7 new Islamic republics that once were USSR turf. Russia is a perfect candidate for civil war as well. Something that would be a true threat to the world.

So many people think if a government the US dislikes/fears is swept away the succeeding one will be an improvement. So Wrong, as usual. Now the world is a far more dangerous place. We booted out Afghanistan's communist and anti-Islamic fundie Najibullah only to replace him with the mujahadeen, precurses of the Taliban. We got rid of Hussein and now we have civil war and religious clerics in positions of power. In Russia the evil USSR was disbaned, now we have someone more dangerous in Putin and his gang, not to mention about 7 new Islamic republics that once were USSR turf. Russia is a perfect candidate for civil war as well. Something that would be a true threat to the world.


Russia and civil war? please!....:D :D that is the funniest and most un-intelligent thing I ever heard. Russia exists not because of land or mother nature or cold temperatures like international ppl like to address it, Russia exists because of the unity of Russian people. And once again...Chechens are not Russian.

Russia and civil war? please!....:D :D that is the funniest and most un-intelligent thing I ever heard. Russia exists not because of land or mother nature or cold temperatures like international ppl like to address it, Russia exists because of the unity of Russian people. And once again...Chechens are not Russian.Economic conditions alone can bring that scenario to Russia. Happened before and I suspect it will happen again.

Economic conditions alone can bring that scenario to Russia. Happened before and I suspect it will happen again.

...look it will not happen, I have been part of the society and there is no such feeling. Russians are happy now than ever before and russians are not poor, they do lie alot to the government thou...like in declaration for what one has...like a house or money he gets...they put 10 times less...my cousin suppossevly only gets 100$/month as a doctor in a small village near Voronezh...but his real wage is 20 times bigger than that. added to that he...steals energy from power lines...lolz....and the family's house is huge. And all russians are like that, they all say their poor...but once you see the food and the house conditions they live in...better think again. Now of course maybe in some ghetto Moscow part, there are some poor conditions for living, but those are not Russians living there, those are illegal immigrants from Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkmenia.

...look it will not happen, I have been part of the society and there is no such feeling. Russians are happy now than ever before and russians are not poor, they do lie alot to the government thou...like in declaration for what one has...like a house or money he gets...they put 10 times less...my cousin suppossevly only gets 100$/month as a doctor in a small village near Voronezh...but his real wage is 20 times bigger than that. added to that he...steals energy from power lines...lolz....and the family's house is huge. And all russians are like that, they all say their poor...but once you see the food and the house conditions they live in...better think again. Now of course maybe in some ghetto Moscow part, there are some poor conditions for living, but those are not Russians living there, those are illegal immigrants from Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkmenia.It's not something I would ever want to see happen either. But rural populations in poverty compared to champagne nationalists in the big cities mixed with coal miners and union workers mixed with angry pensioners, Pamyatist forces, the church, many ethnic minorities and an undiscipilned underpaid military, equipped with nukes and a healthy crime underworld point to where I believe it is likely in the near future. It's a beautiful country with a rich history, and a turbulent one as well.

It's not something I would ever want to see happen either. But rural populations in poverty compared to champagne nationalists in the big cities mixed with coal miners and union workers mixed with angry pensioners, Pamyatist forces, the church, many ethnic minorities and an undiscipilned underpaid military, equipped with nukes and a healthy crime underworld point to where I believe it is likely in the near future. It's a beautiful country with a rich history, and a turbulent one as well.

...i hope you could see through my eyes what Russia really is. Because it is not how inside and international media describes it. Poverty is not a problem of Russia because people are self-sustained...almost everyone I know owns land with tomatoe and potatoe plantations and even my grandma has a second house to live in. The problem for Russia is: too many illegal immigrants and death rate exceeds birth rate.

...i hope you could see through my eyes what Russia really is. Because it is not how inside and international media describes it. Poverty is not a problem of Russia because people are self-sustained...almost everyone I know owns land with tomatoe and potatoe plantations and even my grandma has a second house to live in. The problem for Russia is: too many illegal immigrants and death rate exceeds birth rate.I have read the population is free-falling. The immigrants are Russia's future.

I have read the population is free-falling. The immigrants are Russia's future.

the immigrants are to be expelled from Russia, those fckers are the main cause of all the crimes in Russia and not enough jobs for regular folks. Yeah...the population is in decline...boys (like me) and girls dont have sex as much as they need to...too afraid of consequences and kids. Hopefully that will change with the new government practice of giving funding for newborn babies...

the immigrants are to be expelled from Russia, those fckers are the main cause of all the crimes in Russia and not enough jobs for regular folks. Yeah...the population is in decline...boys (like me) and girls dont have sex as much as they need to...too afraid of consequences and kids. Hopefully that will change with the new government practice of giving funding for newborn babies...I think sex is the same everywhere, abortion is more available there and white Russian families keep their numbers small, like Western Europe. I've read of Pamyat attacks on foreign students and a swelling neo-Nazi movement inciting violence in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
What do you think of Zhirinovsky?

the immigrants are to be expelled from Russia, .What about Western immigrants? Like Business people (Germans, English, French, Americans..)
or What about Japanese? Certainly Japanese are only interested in trade - I doubt many would plan to live in Russia for ever - but I think they may want to have trade with Russia (Cars, Anime, etc...)
Lastly - how about Chinese or Russia traditional ally the Indian? Do you mind Indians living in Moscow?

I really wonder - What do you think about those immigrants?

Cheers,
Michael

What about Western immigrants? Like Business people (Germans, English, French, Americans..)
or What about Japanese? Certainly Japanese are only interested in trade - I doubt many would plan to live in Russia for ever - but I think they may want to have trade with Russia (Cars, Anime, etc...)
Lastly - how about Chinese or Russia traditional ally the Indian? Do you mind Indians living in Moscow?

I really wonder - What do you think about those immigrants?

Cheers,
Michael


Looks its quite obvious that when I talk about internationals to be expelled...these are from south countries. Japanese, Chinese, koreans, indians, european dudes are welcome to stay and invest all they want, because these folks actually do business by law and not cheat it.

I think sex is the same everywhere, abortion is more available there and white Russian families keep their numbers small, like Western Europe. I've read of Pamyat attacks on foreign students and a swelling neo-Nazi movement inciting violence in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
What do you think of Zhirinovsky?

Zhirinovsky...duma (russian senate) needs jokers to keep the atmosphere funny...i think this idiot needs to stay cause he is adorable lil puppy. I really dont support neo-Nazi movement and attack on foreign students, they really shouldnt be attacking the students but rather the illegal immigrants...

so dragon, you support violent attacks on uneducated foreigners in Russia?

Mate, i'm an Australia, and here we're labelled as racist and in humane just because we turn back refugee boats before the reach the shore.

Can't imagine what the out cry would be like if we had violent attacks on them.....

Israel has a long history of barring the UN and other humanitarian organizations for accessing occupied territory. Why such a rush to call Russia 'evil', when Israel does the exact same thing?

I think a lot of your have been brainwashed by Western propaganda. How many of you condemning Russia have actually lived there? Or even met a Russian?

everyone I know owns land with tomatoe and potatoe

Sadly, one can grow tomatoes only in the deep Russian South. One can't even do it near Moscow, not enough of the summer to ripen. BTW, Russia is totally and absolutely dependent on the supply of the foreign food stuff. Europians shall not worry about natural gas supply for time being, hungry people don't eat gas. Since influx of petro dollars, many urban Russians (having access to the trough) don't plant potatoes anymore. They never have been good at it anyway.

Dragon, what do you know you only live there?????LOL

Latest news about Putin - this wednesday he had a meeting with israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert , according to russian journalists, who heard the whole speach from Putin, Putin said :
"Say hello to your president " ( israeli president Moshe Katsav, accused of 10 rapes of women) "who really surprised us" (at that time the microphone was shut down) " what a mighty and powerfull man he turns out to be !! He raped 10 women , I did not think he was capable of that . We are surprised and I envy him !!!"

Today spokesman of the Kremlin , Dmitrij Peskov , confirmed the story - but also said that " Putin did not really mean what he said " !!!!!!!!!!!!

I haven´t found a link in english with the whole story - it will probably come within 24 hours ....

here is a link from yesterday .....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061019/ts_afp/russiaisraelputin_061018193148

:eek:

ahhh....whatever....believe in whatever you believe in or whatever you want to believe in.

ahhh....whatever....believe in whatever you believe in or whatever you want to believe in.


Thank you for allowing me to believe in anything I want to believe in (especially when I see proof of it ) , and even write about it ...........
This means I do not risc a contract-style execution ......

:cool:

Thank you for allowing me to believe in anything I want to believe in (especially when I see proof of it ) , and even write about it ...........
This means I do not risc a contract-style execution ......

:cool:

dammit....what do u call proof?

Russians are self-sustained. Yes its cold as hell in Russia but that doesnt stop Russians from growing veggies in-doors.... Plus during summertime Russia is as hot as any other Europe country, so all that food grown and bought gets to be preserved in cans. My cousin stores 500 cans of stored goods...they are literally marked up by years...and when they open the can, the stuff is delecious because they know how to preserve it, all the sweets all the food...is enough for Russians to survive the nuclear war launched by USA if such thing were to happen.

Now...you keep on busting Putin, he is the best president I have ever known, his management of Russia is at it should be. Yes Putin might have said something there and there...but what he speaks is truth.

Alexander Litvinenko - former colonel in FSB (the russian federal security service - known in old days as KGB) and known critic of Putin - has been poisoned with thallium in the UK by a FSB-agent.

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2006/11/11/6362.shtml

Alexander Litvinenko - former colonel in FSB (the russian federal security service - known in old days as KGB) and known critic of Putin - has been poisoned with thallium in the UK by a FSB-agent.

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2006/11/11/6362.shtml

anyone who has been to Chechnya has shortened their lifespan by two :p
So if the body was to be alive for 80 years...Been to Chechnya? ull be alive for around 40 years. lolz :D and he was in Chechnya.

I think Bush is far more dangerous than putin...thats just my opinion..;)

I think Bush is far more dangerous than putin...thats just my opinion..;)

i dont remember about Putin but at least bush will be gone from power in 2 years or so. K.:)

I think Bush is far more dangerous than putin...thats just my opinion..;)

if bush turns iraq into chechnya then i ma agree with you

I still love the USA.

Draqon:

Are you suggesting that Putin has used radiological weaponary to quell the Chechen insurgency? Or do you mean just standard DU?

In older days Ronald Reagan , the geriatric president of USA at the time, called Russia the empire of evil ..... I am beginning to think he had a point :

Journalist Anna Politkovskaya just murdered , the last of at least 12 journalists criticizing the russian government murdered contract-style since
Putin came into power - NONE of these executions/murders are solved !!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/10/07/russia.murder.ap/index.html

Today I just checked the news from Russia :

From Itar-Tass : Dimitry Fotyanu , candidate for mayor in the city Dalnegorsk in the Primorsky region , shot dead with a kalashnikov, when he stepped out of his office today !!

Even worse : TODAY, october 19.th 2006 , Russia decided to close down : Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch in all Russia !!!!

:eek:

Putin definitely runs Russia with a hand of STEEL !!!!!!!!

Russia has always been like this. Why is it our concern?

I suppose it's the concern of the US government. This seems like typical geopolitics to me, when there is a lot of money and power at stake, lives are lost.

...i hope you could see through my eyes what Russia really is. Because it is not how inside and international media describes it. Poverty is not a problem of Russia because people are self-sustained...almost everyone I know owns land with tomatoe and potatoe plantations and even my grandma has a second house to live in. The problem for Russia is: too many illegal immigrants and death rate exceeds birth rate.

That is completely backwards. The birthrates would RAISE if Russians actually took advantage of the "too many illegal immigrants" and married some of them.

The USA has always had a lot of immigrants, it's the one way we have kept our birthrate up. If Russia is a body, it needs new blood. I think however that the Russian culture is very instinctually nationalist, and this element of Russian culture is why there are problems with immigrants.

My opinion, if what you say is true, and Russia really is doing well except for immigration and low birth rates, the quick solution is to make the new immigrants Russian. More immigrants means higher birth rates, and it means more options for wives if you are a Russian male, and more options for husbands if you are a Russian female.

Of course, Europe is having this problem all over. I don't think the problem is that there are too many immigrants, I think the problem is the terrible job of intergration that is being done. Immigrants can be good or bad depending on how well you intergrate them into society. Immigrants can raise birth rates, or not, depending on what we'd call natural selection. If natural selection is rational, the result is that more immigrants equals higher birth rates for a country. These immigrants, they have to marry right?

Now, I've heard all sorts of stories about Russia, I've heard that Russia is extremely nationalist, to the point of being xenophobic. I've read that hooligans literally are beating up on immigrants for no reason. I've even read that Nazism somehow is in Russia. All of this may be true or false, as I've never been to Russia to know, but if you are from Russia, you can confirm or deny these things.

Finally, from what I know about Russia based on my own logical observations, Russia is actually brilliant strategically. They know exactly what resources to go after on the geopolitical stage, and they seem to strategically be ahead of the USA, and the main reason they are ahead is because the USA is busy fighting wars, this actually gives Russia the chance to do a lot.

Example, Russia is now an energy super power, this means Russia will be entering into the WTO, and you know once this happens, Russia will gain massive economic influence. Russia is also right next to China, this partnership is brilliant as well for a lot of reasons, because China can get it's military technology directly from Russia, while Americans buy products from Walmart to pay for it. It's almost ridiculous but thats the situation.

So Russia is perfectly positioned to become the global super power as China's economy grows into super power status, Russia will be developing the space and weapons technology. So far Russia has not made a single strategic mistake, only tactical errors.

The Soviet Union collapsed because when it comes to tactics, Capitalism won, it was more flexible than Communism, and the USA basically won the long cold war. The strategy however, the long term outlook for Capitalism is somewhat unstable, and while the USA is at war all over the place, the USA is also spending unlimited amounts of money all over the place, going into debt. We can only hope that US economy does not ever collapse or slow down into a depression because if it does, Russia and China will be in an even better position than they are in now, from their perspective.

i dont remember about Putin but at least bush will be gone from power in 2 years or so. K.:)

Jeb can run.

Jeb can run.

but he will lose.

If jeb will become president of the United States of North America I will declare war on Belgium.

yeah me too. ill rally all the turks and morroccans and create my own "coalition of the willing".


wanna join?

yeah me too. ill rally all the turks and morroccans and create my own "coalition of the willing".


wanna join?

Let me check...If I join I will be a leader yes? Not cannonfodder? I prefer it when other people die for me.

you can be my grand-admiral of funk.

oh shit....um.......

Grote Generalisimo Van Seks.

how about that?

Can i have a uniform like this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/SAGoring.jpg/381px-SAGoring.jpg

if you find some way to incorporate it with this:
http://www.leatherbear.com/gfx/soon.jpg

Hello. I live in Chelyabinsk, Russia.
Don't think that Russia- empire of evil! WE LIKE AMERICANS :) .We don't want to kill you by Nuclerar bombs. COME IN RUSSIA! We are very good.

no answer, monkeyman?

donno enough about Putin's shit. just know that he's still dealing with the post-Yeltsin bullshit, and a "breakaway" terrorist war on Russia (have you forgotten or morally equalizd Beslan already?)

maybe he is a tough guy...

so what? maybe that's what Russia needs right now. a decade from now it'll ease up.

the only thing i dont like about Putin is his biz with Iran. otherwise, he is mostly OK

Hello. I live in Chelyabinsk, Russia.
Don't think that Russia- empire of evil! WE LIKE AMERICANS :) .We don't want to kill you by Nuclerar bombs. COME IN RUSSIA! We are very good.
like the man said you ought to try Russia man the chic are awesome!

Hello. I live in Chelyabinsk, Russia.
Don't think that Russia- empire of evil! WE LIKE AMERICANS :) .We don't want to kill you by Nuclerar bombs. COME IN RUSSIA! We are very good.

lol. what a posse.

The amnesty international is nothing more than a political international force in disguise to press its agenda and make Russia look like shit to the rest of the world.

rofl. You expect anyone to believe that?

rofl. You expect anyone to believe that?

Go to Chechnya in 1999 and you will see it yourself.

The amnesty international is nothing more than a political international force in disguise[B] to press its agenda and make Russia look like shit to the rest of the world.

What a load of bullshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amnesty_International

Amnesty International (commonly known as Amnesty or AI) is a non-governmental organization (NGO) comprising "a worldwide movement of people who campaign for internationally recognized human rights".[1] Founded in the UK in 1961, AI compares actual practices of human rights with internationally accepted standards and demands compliance where these have not been respected. It works to mobilize public opinion in the belief that it is this which has the power to exert pressure on those who perpetrate abuses.[2]

Amnesty International has campaigns around the whole World, they are not specifically targeting Russia. Their campaigns are documented on their website.

Putin runs Russia as a democracy and not iron fist or hand of steel. The amnesty international is nothing more than a political international force in disguise to press its agenda and make Russia look like shit to the rest of the world. The candidate of primorsky region was probably a crook, as primorsky region is known for the fish business and the constant problems with money flow from this business. Currently the situation with Georgia and the need of Ajaria and North Osetia to join Russia is the reason why the recent killings are happening, this is all planned out and coordinated via international forces. Putin is the best president ever and all he brought peace to Chechnya and made life much better place for Russians than anyone else. The recent killings of the famous *bitch* and the ITAR-TASS president are closely connected to the situation in Georgia...georgians main goal is to destabilize the international relationships especially in business sphere in Russia. I fully support Putin and how he deals with issues. These so called international human right watch groups are the main reason there is so much instability in the region.

Wow, so many inconsistencies, so little time…

I love your final sentence, human rights orgs. are responsible for causing instability in the region. Talk about burying your head in the sand. :rolleyes:

Anyone think russians like me are oppressed by the government? I am russian, I tell you this have been the best times ever for Russia. The newspapers, internet, mass-media have got soooooooooooooo much freedom for people we dont need any international fuks telling us that human rights are oppressed in Russia, cause they are not.

Yeh, definitely, that’s why you live in America, right? rofl

And Chechens are not russian, so they do not count as citizens, Russia needs to control the region of Chechnya or otherwise theyll join the Georgians, sell drugs, steal, kill. Abkhazians are so close to Chechens...why dont they act like shit? because Abkhazians have got a culture...because they work. so when Amnesty International says human rights are oppressed in Chechnya they can shove it up their ass, cause chechens are violent culture with no anticipation to work like everyone else.

I see, the Chechens are not Russian, they’re not Russian citizens but Russia has to control them otherwise they’ll join the Georgians and start selling drugs, stealing and killing. (wtf?!?!) You seem to be talking out of your arse draqon, you're 'defending' the indefensible.

Long live the Chechen Resistance!!!

Long live the Chechen Resistance!!!

It is long dead. :p

http://www.hro.org/editions/karta/nr22-23/foto/grozny.jpg

hahahaaaaa!
They had what they asked for.

See him (Basaev) smiling

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/11/1207CHECHNYA_narrowweb__300x392,0.jpg

And now he ain't. And so the end of Ichkeria.

http://www.mosnews.com/files/16175/basaev.jpg



good snipers. Good artillery.

http://www.hrvc.net/imgs/assoreporters.jpg

it would be an interesting study to conduct: the role and influence that AI and other "human rights" orgs play in contemporary conflicts

plus, let's not forget that any huge organization is the sum of its parts. there are many good thigns AI has done and is doing, but it has fucking idiots working for them too

touting AI's history is a bit irrelevant. you have to look at their actions in the Chechen conflict. from my own experience with AI's treatment of Israel i can completely believe that they would be all faggoty about Chechnya

long live the Chechen resistence!!
resistence...yeeesss... (http://www.moscowhelp.org/en/index.html)

It is long dead. :p

http://www.hro.org/editions/karta/nr22-23/foto/grozny.jpg

hahahaaaaa!
They had what they asked for.

Its long dead? which Russian general told you that? who are you trying to fool? seriously. The Chechen rebels are always releasing new videos, I myself have seen many of them. We all know the Russians are brutes, when they're not busy killing, torturing and raping Chechens, they're busy torturing and killing eachother – and recording it. And the corruption of the Russian military is legendary, don't the Chechens actually buy their weapons from the Russians, rofl. There was one case of a Russian general actually protecting a Chechen warlord (will try to find a link).

No one will forget the first war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Chechen_War

When Russians attacked the Chechen capital of Grozny from December 1994 to January 1995, thousands of civilians died from a week-long series of air raids and artillery bombardment of the sealed-off city. After armored assaults failed, the Russian military set out to pulverize the city into submission. Russian aircraft bombarded Grozny while armored forces and artillery hammered the city from the ground. The Russian assault fell mainly on Grozny's civilians, mostly ethnic Russians, as separatist forces operated from buildings filled with Russian civilians as shields.

The first attack led to heavy Russian casualties and nearly a complete breakdown of morale. Estimated 1,000 to 2,000 soldiers died in the disastrous New Year's Eve assault alone. All units of the Maikop Brigade sent into the city, numbering more than 1,000 men, were destroyed during the 60-hour fight for, and around, Grozny's central railway station, leaving only few survivors. Several other Russian armored columns each lost hundreds of men during the first two days and nights of the siege. [4] Many soldiers were captured.

Don't you lot still have a military draft? how come you're not...

Oh yeh, you're in America. rofl. :rolleyes:

Yeh, the Russian army is great...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Army

Since 1991 inability to accept the new strategic circumstances,[2] a crippling shortage of funds, and the wasting away of the Russian people's belief in the Armed Forces (not helped by rising levels of dedovshchina) have led to a steady decline in military capability. Professionalisation is now slowly taking place, but there is little hope for a rapid rise in effectiveness. Alexander Golts, a long-time Russian military journalist, describes the problems: "Since 1999 the defense budget has grown more than three times—rising from 109 billion rubles to 346 billion (in 2003). However, no positive changes have come about: the level of combat readiness and discipline is just as low as it was few years ago."[3]

The new Russian Ground Forces inherited an increasing crime problem from their Soviet predecessors. As draft resistance grew in the last years of the Soviet Union, the authorities tried to compensate by bring in more men with criminal records and who spoke little or no Russian. Crime rate soared, with the military procurator in Moscow in September 1990 reporting a 40% increase in crime over the previous six months, including a 41% rise in serious bodily injuries.[56] Disappearances of weapons rose to rampant levels, especially in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus.[57]

A 1995 study by the U.S. Foreign Military Studies Office[59] went as far as to say that the Armed Forces were "an institution increasingly defined by the high levels of military criminality and corruption embedded within it at every level." The FMSO noted that crime levels had always grown with social turbulence such as the trauma Russia was passing through. He identified four major types among the raft of criminality prevalent within the forces—weapons trafficking and the arms trade; business and commercial ventures; military crime beyond Russia's borders; and contract murder. Disappearances of weapons had begun during the dissolution of the Union, as referred to above, and has continued. Within units, "rations are sold while soldiers grow hungry... [while] fuel, spare parts, and equipment can be bought."[60] Meanwhile voyemkomats take bribes to arrange avoidance of service, or a more comfortable posting. Beyond the Russian frontier, drugs were smuggled across the Tajik border, supposedly being patrolled by Russian guards, by military aircraft, and a Russian senior officer, a General Major Alexander Perelyakin, had been dismissed from his post with the UN peacekeeping force in Bosnia-Hercegovina, UNPROFOR, following continued complaints of smuggling, profiteering, and corruption. In terms of contract killings, beyond the Kholodov case, there have been widespread rumours that GRU Spetsnaz personnel have been moonlighting as mafiya hitmen.[61]

Reports such as these continue, and indicate that the much of the increased funding allocated to the armed forces is going to waste. Egregious examples have included a constant-readiness motor rifle regiment's tanks run out of fuel on the firing ranges, because petrol is being diverted to local businesses.[62] On this subject the last word may best be Sergey Ivanov's: visiting 20th Army in April 2002, he said the volume of theft was "simply impermissible".[63]

What a joke!

Russian army has tons of problems.
but it's irrelevant to Chechen terrorism. also, the guys who go to Chechnya are not the lawless punks that your above study talks about. these are the trained ones that are actually able to execute sensitive operations and work as a coordinated team.

what does it have to do with Shamil Basayev?

what does it have to do with Shamil Basayev?

the guy who plotted the Beslan and other attacks in Moscow, is dead. FSB finished him.

i know he's the guy behind Beslan.

it's just that you're talking about Chechen terrorism, and Ghost, in response, talks about the inner problems of the Russian army ... 2 unrelated things.

i know he's the guy behind Beslan.

it's just that you're talking about Chechen terrorism, and Ghost, in response, talks about the inner problems of the Russian army ... 2 unrelated things.

well they are related...

how?

Ghost's argument is that Russian army is poorly managed, underfunded, and has no discipline, therefore there is terrorism against Russia.

i dont see the connection.

how?

Ghost's argument is that Russian army is poorly managed, underfunded, and has no discipline, therefore there is terrorism against Russia.

i dont see the connection.

because it is poorly managed and russian soldiers (young unexperienced ones) dont/cant do their job thus allowing the chechens to infiltrate main Russia.
http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/WORLD/europe/12/05/russia.train.blast/story.train.bomb.jpg

Every weakness = Every scar = death and destruction

Russian army has tons of problems.
but it's irrelevant to Chechen terrorism. also, the guys who go to Chechnya are not the lawless punks that your above study talks about. these are the trained ones that are actually able to execute sensitive operations and work as a coordinated team.

There is widespread corruption throughout the entire Russian army.

I've read reports of Russian soldiers giving Chechen Warlords protection, I've read reports of Chechens buying weaponry from Russian soldiers, it goes on and on. Remember that theatre siege? weren't the soldiers (Russian Special Forces - Russia's finest) blamed for many of the deaths? remember how they stacked the victims on top of each other? nothing to do with corruption but it shows pure negligence. And the Russian apartment bombings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings) (suspected FSB involvement). They are a fucking disgrace.

http://www.ncsj.org/AuxPages/110804LATimes_bribes.shtml

Corruption is a daily routine in Russia, but no longer is it regarded as a mostly victimless crime.

Suspicions that law enforcement corruption played a role in recent terrorist attacks * including the Sept. 1 school seizure in Beslan, where some witnesses said heavily armed terrorists crossed a police checkpoint * have prompted a new look at the relationship between graft and violence in today's Russia.

"The problem of combating corruption has moved to a new level in this country," said Yelena Panfilova, head of the Russian branch of Transparency International, which monitors corruption around the world. "After the events in August and September … corruption has turned into a problem of survival for every individual, every day in this country."

Russian President Vladimir V. Putin underscored the problem a day after the Beslan tragedy, when he blamed the country's weakness for a siege that left 340 people dead. "We have allowed corruption to undermine our judicial and law enforcement system," he said.

Hostages at the school in the republic of North Ossetia said the attackers told them they had easily reached the school by bribing police along the way.

"The terrorists said, 'Remember, all your officials are mendacious and corrupt * we paid all of them,' " former hostage Ludmila Boyeva recalled. The hostage-takers said they had originally planned to take hostages in the larger town of Vladikavkaz, several miles from Beslan, she said, "but they didn't have enough money."

"It was all about money," said Svetlana Cherepovskaya, editor of Beslan's weekly newspaper, Zhizn Pravoberezhya, who lost her 14-year-old daughter in the tragedy. "How can you account for the fact that this group drove in broad daylight through a traffic control checkpoint? And some people are saying there was a cop escorting the rebels, who showed them the way. People said they saw him later at the police station, with a facial wound. He was under arrest."

Russian soldiers giving Chechen Warlords protection, I've read reports of Chechens buying weaponry from Russian soldiers
possible. actually, probable! :D
but it's a small number of people.

Remember that theatre siege? weren't the soldiers (Russian Special Forces - Russia's finest) blamed for many of the deaths? remember how they stacked the victims on top of each other? nothing to do with corruption but it shows pure negligence
the deaths were caused by the gas
and the stacking of the bodies (if it happened) had to do with the fact that these are killing machines ("Alpha" are the most elite soldiers in all of Russia)... not sensitive humanitarians. it was insensitive - sure...

And the Russian apartment bombings (suspected FSB involvement).
come on. that's as bad of a conspiracy theory as the CIA-blowing-up-the-twins one.

you're right... Russia's military problems are huge. it goes beyond what you wrote. the whole culture is just so destructive. you can find tons of videos on YouTube of officers beating the shit out of new recruits. many have died or have been maimed like this. one kid who had now cannot walk and had his testies amputated after such a beating is in the process of writing a book about it.

but i do believe that the "combat-ready" troops, as opposed to the national-guard equivallent, are way more organized and competent. (not to say it's perfect)

but let's say they are so incompetent. that only shows that they are incapable of fighting Chechen terrorism... not that Russia is an empire of evil.
actually it probably is an empire of evil, but not because of Chechnya

the deaths were caused by the gas
and the stacking of the bodies (if it happened) had to do with the fact that these are killing machines ("Alpha" are the most elite soldiers in all of Russia)... not sensitive humanitarians. it was insensitive - sure...

Agreed.

come on. that's as bad of a conspiracy theory as the CIA-blowing-up-the-twins one.

I don't think you can compare the two. From the documentaries and news broadcasts I've seen, many have suggested the Russians may have played a part. I don't want to go into that though.

you're right... Russia's military problems are huge. it goes beyond what you wrote. the whole culture is just so destructive. you can find tons of videos on YouTube of officers beating the shit out of new recruits. many have died or have been maimed like this. one kid who had now cannot walk and had his testies amputated after such a beating is in the process of writing a book about it.

I've seen some of those vids - very disturbing.

but i do believe that the "combat-ready" troops, as opposed to the national-guard equivallent, are way more organized and competent. (not to say it's perfect)

but let's say they are so incompetent. that only shows that they are incapable of fighting Chechen terrorism... not that Russia is an empire of evil.
actually it probably is an empire of evil, but not because of Chechnya

It was draqon that decided to concentrate on the Chechen issue.
Read my posts on the top of this page.

the immigrants are to be expelled from Russia, those fckers are the main cause of all the crimes in Russia and not enough jobs for regular folks. Yeah...the population is in decline...boys (like me) and girls dont have sex as much as they need to...too afraid of consequences and kids. Hopefully that will change with the new government practice of giving funding for newborn babies...

tut tut draqon

Russia the gutter of the world. I won't even consider them part of this humane world, mostly animals live there and majority of them are butchers anyways. Disgusting shit hole fuck up country.

Russia the gutter of the world. I won't even consider them part of this humane world, mostly animals live there and majority of them are butchers anyways. Disgusting shit hole fuck up country.

lol

Russia is a beautiful country with a glorious, fascinating and colorful history. Russian art, books and music and architecture are unparalelled anywhere in the world. But the sinking of the USSR has sunk Russia as well. Never ever a target of terrorists in the old Soviet days now she's sunk to 3rd World status. Soldiers are paid in cabbages, if at all, increasing the problems of corruption, soldiers are brutally abused and prostituted for money (I posted that story a month ago) poverty is rampant in the rural and industrial areas, the gap between the 1% of wealthy Russians and the population is widening, the loss of half her territory to Islamic fundamentalists, her defeat in Afghanistan, skyrocketing drug and alcohol addiction all add up to a dark future for this once great empire. Expect civil war within the decade as Russia tumbles further downward. A true tragedy.

the immigrants are to be expelled from Russia, those fckers are the main cause of all the crimes in Russia and not enough jobs for regular folks. Yeah...the population is in decline...boys (like me) and girls dont have sex as much as they need to...too afraid of consequences and kids. Hopefully that will change with the new government practice of giving funding for newborn babies...

What happened to all that 'eternal peace will give you wings' and 'everyone is equal' bullshit?

What happened to all that 'eternal peace will give you wings' and 'everyone is equal' bullshit?

they're land for them. Our land for ourselves. All is equal here.

they're land for them. Our land for ourselves. All is equal here.

You really want to destroy Russia?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4294021.stm

Key members of the Russian cabinet have called for lifting restrictions on immigration in order to counter negative demographic trends.

Economic Development Minister German Gref said that without more immigrants, Russia was unlikely to meet the target of doubling its GDP in 10 years...

http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/11/8957c86a-eecd-4754-87a1-fe9c19eba8d8.html

Russian demographers have long foreseen the country's population crisis. A low birthrate combined with a high mortality rate means that in 2006 the number of pensioners will exceed the number of young men starting their working lives.

The gap is almost certain to grow in the future. According to UN experts, the Russian economy needs up to 2 million new workers every year; Russian experts put the figure nearer to 700,000.

To address the population deficit, demographers have advised the Russian government to expatriate ethnic Russians from the CIS and other countries, and legalize non-Russians who are currently living and working illegally in Russia...

German Gref is wrong. BBC publishing what will destroy Russia? Oh really so England cares so much about Russia that they want to help us? ******! England has got Berezovsky and Mr. Chechen Terrorist in London. England primary goal is to disrupt Russia, everything they publish is for that primary target. The recent death of ex-FSB agent, Mr. ******, was actions of Berezovsky, yet Britain shielded him and the media blamed it all on Russia's doing. Enough this propaganda!

These key members of Russian cabinet who have called for lifting immigrant restrictions are the outsiders! They are the immigrants. Russia for Russians!

Why? Because all these Chechens, Georgians, Uzbeks, Tatars, all they do in Russia is cause violence and corruption. Every day someone gets killed, and guess where the guy's origin is? North Osetia. The Next day...its Dagestan. The next day it's, Georgia. Enough of this, restrictions on immigrants is not enough! We need to expel them just like the Georgians were this year.

And this nonsense that Russia can't do without immigrants is just rubbish. Go, try us. Chechens are already dead, and they were a brilliant fighting nation. Who is next to go on Russia? Latvia?

German Gref is wrong. BBC publishing what will destroy Russia? Oh really so England cares so much about Russia that they want to help us? ******! England has got Berezovsky and Mr. Chechen Terrorist in London. England primary goal is to disrupt Russia, everything they publish is for that primary target. The recent death of ex-FSB agent, Mr. ******, was actions of Berezovsky, yet Britain shielded him and the media blamed it all on Russia's doing. Enough this propaganda!

England will keep Berezovsky. If they guy needs a place to stay, he can stay with me. I will never hand him over to Putin and his cronies. Ahmed Zakayev is staying put too.

England primary goal is to disrupt Russia, everything they publish is for that primary target.

We are all equal. There will be eternal happiness and we will then grow purple wings and great big hairy balls.

These key members of Russian cabinet who have called for lifting immigrant restrictions are the outsiders! They are the immigrants. Russia for Russians!

Why? Because all these Chechens, Georgians, Uzbeks, Tatars, all they do in Russia is cause violence and corruption. Every day someone gets killed, and guess where the guy's origin is? North Osetia. The Next day...its Dagestan. The next day it's, Georgia. Enough of this, restrictions on immigrants is not enough! We need to expel them just like the Georgians were this year.

Talk about burying your head in the snow. Its all because of them darkies huh? You call them Blacks in Russia, don't you?

And this nonsense that Russia can't do without immigrants is just rubbish. Go, try us. Chechens are already dead, and they were a brilliant fighting nation. Who is next to go on Russia? Latvia?

Chechens are already dead? No they're not. They were a 'brilliant fighting nation'?!?! hahaha, you're trying to compare Russia to Chechnya, you're trying to pass the conflict off as a fair fight? rotfl.

Who is next to go on Russia? Latvia?

Latvia? lol, what about Finland, that would be one hell of a ruck, then maybe you bullies can try Belarus. Then how about Slough! :rolleyes:

The US could destroy Russia in less then a week.

Latvia? lol, what about Finland, that would be one hell of a ruck, then maybe you bullies can try Belarus. Then how about Slough! :rolleyes:

The US could destroy Russia in less then a week.

Finland is a beautiful nation, it is worthy of living.
Belarus is our partner.

...US destroying Russia? in a week? :p you silly. Do I really need to tell you the technicals behind this foolishness?

Finland is a beautiful nation, it is worthy of living.
Belarus is our partner.

...US destroying Russia? in a week? :p you silly. Do I really need to tell you the technicals behind this foolishness?

Be my guest.

Be my guest.

nah, I rather not.

Russia is not initiator of conflict. So whoever starts directly and indirectly, than he/she/it shall fall.

Russia Plans World's Longest Tunnel, a Link to Alaska (Update2)

By Yuriy Humber and Bradley Cook
April 18 (Bloomberg) -- Russia plans to build the world's longest tunnel, a transport and pipeline link under the Bering Strait to Alaska, as part of a $65 billion project to supply the U.S. with oil, natural gas and electricity from Siberia.
The project, which Russia is coordinating with the U.S. and Canada, would take 10 to 15 years to complete, Viktor Razbegin, deputy head of industrial research at the Russian Economy Ministry, told reporters in Moscow today. State organizations and private companies in partnership would build and control the route, known as TKM-World Link, he said.
A 6,000-kilometer (3,700-mile) transport corridor from Siberia into the U.S. will feed into the tunnel, which at 64 miles will be more than twice as long as the underwater section of the Channel Tunnel between the U.K. and France, according to the plan. The tunnel would run in three sections to link the two islands in the Bering Strait between Russia and the U.S.
``This will be a business project, not a political one,'' Maxim Bystrov, deputy head of Russia's agency for special economic zones, said at the media briefing. Russian officials will formally present the plan to the U.S. and Canadian governments next week, Razbegin said.
The Bering Strait tunnel will cost $10 billion to $12 billion and the rest of the investment will be spent on the entire transport corridor, the plan projects.
Siberian Commodities
The tunnel would contain a high-speed railway, highway and pipelines, as well as power and fiber-optic cables, according to TKM-World Link. Investors in the so-called public-private partnership include OAO Russian Railways, national utility OAO Unified Energy System and pipeline operator OAO Transneft.
Russia and U.S. may each eventually take 25 percent stakes, with private investors and international finance agencies as other shareholders, Razbegin said. ``The governments will act as guarantors for private money,'' he said.
The link will save North America and Far East Russia $20 billion a year on electricity costs, said Vasily Zubakin, deputy chief executive officer of OAO Hydro OGK, Unified Energy's hydropower unit and a potential investor.
``It's cheaper to transport electricity east, and with our unique tidal resources, the potential is real,'' Zubakin said. Hydro OGK plans by 2020 to build the Tugurskaya and Pendzhinskaya tidal plants, each with capacity of as much as 10 gigawatts, in the Okhotsk Sea, close to Sakhalin Island.
Angora to Fort Nelson
Russian Railways is working on the rail route from Pravaya Lena, south of Yakutsk in the Sakha republic, to Uelen on the Bering Strait, a 3,500 kilometer stretch. The link could carry commodities from east Siberia and Sakha to North American export markets, said Artur Alexeyev, Sakha's vice president.
The two regions hold most of Russia's metal and mineral reserves ``and yet only 1.5 percent of it is developed due to lack of infrastructure and tough conditions,'' Alexeyev said.
Rail links in Russia and the U.S., where an almost 2,000 kilometer stretch from Angora to Fort Nelson would continue the route, would cost up to $15 billion, Razbegin said. With cargo traffic of as much as 100 million tons annually expected on the World Link, the investments in the rail section could be repaid in 20 years, he said.
``The transit link is that string on which all our industrial cluster projects could hang,'' Zubakin said.
Japan, China and Korea have expressed interest in the project, with Japanese companies offering to burrow the tunnel under the Bering Strait for $60 million a kilometer, half the price set down in the project, Razbegin said.
To contact the reporters on this story: Yuriy Humber in Moscow at yhumber@bloomberg.net ; Bradley Cook in Moscow at bcook7@bloomberg.net .
Last Updated: April 18, 2007 08:29 EDT

yea right genji. How hilarious.

yea right genji. How hilarious.It is in the news today. Thought I'd put it here.

One could DRIVE from the US to Europe!

One could DRIVE from the US to Europe!

uneconomical...unfeasible...unjustifiable...

uneconomical...unfeasible...unjustifiable...Exactl y what was said about the US interstate highway system, the Chunnel, the Suez Canal and the Panama Canal.

Exactly what was said about the US interstate highway system, the Chunnel, the Suez Canal and the Panama Canal.

well...I support construction and big utilization projects in space category. Like development of ISS, Earth lift to space...but ground utilization support is for others.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18229586/

Shame Russia, shame.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18229586/

Shame Russia, shame.

Neo-Naciz, Christian extremists, gays....all shall fall.

Russia is not considered a free nation. Its listed as a country that pretends to have a democracy. A lot like Mugabe does :)

I got this information from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy#Ancient_origins (I linked to the origins section because the maps with they keys are right there)

Here is the map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Freedom_House_world_map_2007.png

Green = Free country
Peachy= Partly free
Red = not free

But I dont think the plebs can understand the concepts of freedom discussed in the democracy section on wiki.

wiki douchebags, Russia should be at least pink, but in reality there is more freedom than anywhere in the world.

They base it one Yukos and recent internationally funded political groups fall.

wiki douchebags, Russia should be at least pink, but in reality there is more freedom than anywhere in the world.

They base it one Yukos and recent internationally funded political groups fall.

I miss communist Russia. They had a much better education system back then it seems.

I miss communist Russia. They had a much better education system back then it seems.

yeah me 2. I would have gone to Voronezh State U. if I stayed. O well...

You can blame a country, you can blame the winds and sand,
But in the end, the shame is left to every greedy man

Some one fires a gun, some one buys some shells
Some one makes some money, from wars burning hell

I hope the worlds leaders and populations alike, will stop acting like monkeys (the only animal that has wars) and behave as they should.

Sadly enough, every world leader makes claims, and there is always another world leader claiming the exact opposite position on who fired the first shot, like little children in a squabble. It seams that the gears of war will grind up anyone who takes a stand against war, rather than against a particular country, creed, or religion.

In a few years, Russia will only be able to afford a nuclear weapons stockpile of a few hundred warheads, possibly smaller even than Israel's own stockpile. At the same time, as missile defences are developed, Russia's ability to bully and plunder will drop further and further. Shape up or ship out, your place in the sun is long gone and if you Russians are going to support the rise of rogue nations like totalitarian Iran, you will be sacrificing your own security and power as we respond with our countermeasures. You also have a massive demographic problem on the horizon, so you're going to need our help just to stay afloat. Don't be fascist idiots, join up with the west and work with us instead of dreaming of Napoleonic conquest, because you're not going to conquer sh*t.